A20 Developer Diary Discussions

[Matt115]

2 minutes ago, Roland said:

Doesn’t matter since this isn’t a matter of opinion. The fact is that release dates are not and will not be given. Period. You’re just pounding sand in arguing that they should give release dates. 😀

well i can write opinion like - " in doom should be machine gun like zombie have" but this will change something? nope . this same i can say " zombie corpses should be rotting like in previouse versions" it will change something? ofc not . but still i can defend this idea. If you guys decided to ( i love give radical but funny ideas) add zombie unicorn nobody can stop you for doing this but still people can complain about it. well it least i'm trying to give arguments why i support something or criticize something

1 minute ago, stallionsden said:

This is neither cod nor l4d2.

 

What may work for 1 game won't work for another. 

 

Anyways it won't matter it wont happen. 

well it can work - just adapt this idea to sandbox . honestly i'm 100% sure that will work in this example. well i can't change they decisions but i can give ideas right?

[Roland]

22 minutes ago, Matt115 said:

well i can write opinion like - " in doom should be machine gun like zombie have" but this will change something? nope .

 
Writing that once makes for an interesting thought exercise and might make for an interesting discussion. Writing it every day in the dev diary for years would be another matter…

[Matt115]

6 minutes ago, Roland said:

 
Writing that once makes for an interesting thought exercise and might make for an interesting discussion. Writing it every day in the dev diary for years would be another matter…

yeah.. it can make someone tired. but well you still  doing good job. 

[fragtzack]

Anyone have the link to the "When will A20 be released thread" ?

[Roland]

4 hours ago, fragtzack said:

Anyone have the link to the "When will A20 be released thread" ?

No link required. Welcome. You made it here without having to be moved here. 
 

Let’s hear your guess!

[NukemDed]

7 hours ago, faatal said:

We hope to use HDRP on one of our next games.

which one?

[Jost Amman]

1 hour ago, NukemDed said:

which one?

The one with that thingie shooting the other thingie... you know.

[MechanicalLens]

45 minutes ago, Jost Amman said:

The one with that thingie shooting the other thingie... you know.

 

You mean the one with the stuff in it, and the things everywhere?

[q123]

found it 😉

 

"It's Done When It's Done" is an HDRP game that is a unique combination of a thingie shooter, with stuff in it and things everywhere.
Play the definitive Raytracing DLSS sandbox HDRP that came first. Madmole awaits!

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/251570/Its_Done_When_Its_Done/

 

[Jost Amman]

3 hours ago, MechanicalLens said:

 

You mean the one with the stuff in it, and the things everywhere?

Yep, THAT ONE! 

[Matt115]

2 hours ago, Jugginator said:

 

Let me guess, skeletons right? 😂

yes!!!  honestly  it well be s00pokyy enough. ofc not so much like living in Poland but still good. skeletons are best solution . they are zombie but without flesh soooo ofc choice. but honestly clows will be but too bad clowns are creepy ... like dolls. i hate clowns and dolls. i had terrbile nighmare with dolls one time. it was just bad

1 hour ago, meilodasreh said:

If they add skeletons reading a newspaper in a busstop, he would be in heaven.

 

He's so positively weird, you just gotta love him 😃 

awww yyyyyeeeeeess skeleton ^^ well there is more things i like - well i love screamer but i would  just make her hands and feet a little bit dirty. honestly i love dead girl in white dresses ( it sounds so bad but you know).  awww thx

 

AND NOW  YOU WASTELANDS RATS PREPERE FOR : 7DTD THEORY and... thought !!!

Welcome welcom in my beatifull  newsstand. i sitting here with my friend -  Melton  the skeleton . i would say something like introduce yourself but well... skeletons don't speak so much.. wait his jaw fall of... wait a sec. 

OK soooo today random Matt though is : we will get drowned zombies one day! 

why?? oh my dear let's go!

So first in next alpha we get serwers. what it means? well there is a water there so thx cpt obvious.  so probably someone or just random unlucky zombie fall inside serwers and drowned there - this give us small chance to get drowned zombie - well we have a lot of rivers, lakes so there is a lot of spaces for them.

someone can say " YOU KNOW MATT BUT IN L4D2 THERE IS NOT ANY DROWNED ZOMBIE YOU $@$%!#$ SO WHY WOULD BE HERE??" that's correct but we have mud man well they are connected to water right? in DL we have drowned zombie ,in nza4 in, DI , in cod ( well they are normal zombie but have drowned variants of model so it still count). 

More clues? someday we will get new water physic. so this is perfect oppornity to add zombie connected with water right????

 

BUT REMEMBER - THIS IS JUST MY RANDOM THOUGHT RANDOM LIKE  MY HAIR STYLE! 

 

My friends just fall from his chair and gave me idea. 

LIVE OF TRADERS IN 7DTD IS TERRIBLE NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Why you ask? try to stand from 6.05 to 21:50 . they don't have any chair to sit. they suffer so much. and some of them even have holes in floors and walls. I know i know living in post apo world is hard but  Guys from TFP PLEASE  give them  any chair to sit i beg you. Please end their suffer they legs hurts so much. 

 

Well what we can expect in future? THIS YOU WILL LEARN IN NEXT EPISODE OF 7DTD THEORY and... thought !!!

SMALL SPOILERS : Why most zombies will in near future going barefoot.  WHY BANDITS NEED TRUCKS AND MINIBIKES . And i think another TFP'S game will be medival sandbox!!!! 

 

TRY TO SURVIVE TO NEXT EPISODE! 

19 minutes ago, q123 said:

wow 😲

 

 

aww she looks so good 😸 but please add blood on her hands and mud on her feet!!!! 😭

[Blake_]

1 hour ago, Ezed said:

 

 

I always thought the current screamer was kind of hot.  Unsure about the change.  Bah...who's kiddin'...I'd still hit that...

 

 

 

...with a steel club...

Your miss. She must be one hell of a kisser.

[Darklegend222]

On 7/22/2021 at 1:11 PM, Naz said:

I've tested the ryzen 3950x, i7 6700k, i5 4670k and am now testing the ryzen 5950x

The 3090 tests were done on the 3950x, which is a touch slower than your cpu (In 7dtd) I haven't personally tested the i7 10850k or the 6700xt, so I can only estimate. However I think your cpu should be able to keep a 6700xt fed at 1440p, I wouldn't imagine it would run at lower than 80-90% gpu usage. 

 

But that's just my guess based on benchmarks on those components, when you throw it in there let us know how you got on👍

Specs: i9-10850k, 32gb DDR4-3200, Radeon RX 6700xt, 2tb Samsung SSD (moved from an inland professional)

I've got it running at 1440p, with occlusion on, motion blur and depth of field are disabled. Radeon Image Sharpening is enabled at 100%, Radeon Enhanced Sync is enabled, and i'm use Radeon Anti-Lag. Average framerate is 72. It goes to 90-110 in fields, it can drop to 60 in towns, which i've only tested in Diersville as of now.

 

The CPU didn't exceed 45% which is still about 4-5 cores but thats not bad in the slightest. I've tested it in the hospital (i'm uploading a video but it might take a day or 2 due to Youtubes insane upload limit.) and it ran at 40fps with Occlusion OFF, so i enabled it and went through the hospital off camera, and it ran at 55-60fps which is excellent.

 

Its not perfect, but it works perfectly. The GPU has reached 100% multiple times which is expected at 1440p, so I'd say its excellent and does the job proper.

[BFT2020]

Not sure why this topic has turned into a necrophilia one......😮

[Morloc]

2 hours ago, Matt115 said:

try to stand from 6.05 to 21:50 . they don't have any chair to sit. they suffer so much. and some of them even have holes in floors and walls. I know i know living in post apo world is hard but  Guys from TFP PLEASE  give them  any chair to sit i beg you. Please end their suffer they legs hurts so much. 

 

Amazon....fulfillment....centers....

 

 

-Arch Necromancer Morloc

[Matt115]

13 minutes ago, Morloc said:

 

Amazon....fulfillment....centers....

 

 

-Arch Necromancer Morloc

this is too good and too bad in this same time... yeez so TFP are amazon shareholders????????????????? this...explain a lot....

[Naz]

2 hours ago, Darklegend222 said:

Specs: i9-10850k, 32gb DDR4-3200, Radeon RX 6700xt, 2tb Samsung SSD (moved from an inland professional)

I've got it running at 1440p, with occlusion on, motion blur and depth of field are disabled. Radeon Image Sharpening is enabled at 100%, Radeon Enhanced Sync is enabled, and i'm use Radeon Anti-Lag. Average framerate is 72. It goes to 90-110 in fields, it can drop to 60 in towns, which i've only tested in Diersville as of now.

 

The CPU didn't exceed 45% which is still about 4-5 cores but thats not bad in the slightest. I've tested it in the hospital (i'm uploading a video but it might take a day or 2 due to Youtubes insane upload limit.) and it ran at 40fps with Occlusion OFF, so i enabled it and went through the hospital off camera, and it ran at 55-60fps which is excellent.

 

Its not perfect, but it works perfectly. The GPU has reached 100% multiple times which is expected at 1440p, so I'd say its excellent and does the job proper.

Good to hear, ye cities like diersvile are good places to go to stress the cpu. Glad to hear you're able to get full usage tho nice one. 👍

[MechanicalLens]

Imagine if the player suffered a multi-second-long stun every time the Screamer cried out if she was / you were close enough, now that would be cool.

[Adam the Waster]

 a side note. it would be cool AF if screamers spawned in POIs, Rarely but it could happen. 


So at times, stealth would be recommended 

[jorbascrumps]

1 hour ago, MechanicalLens said:

Imagine if the player suffered a multi-second-long stun every time the Screamer cried out if she was / you were close enough, now that would be cool.

 

I hope this is sarcasm.

[Jost Amman]

2 minutes ago, Blake_ said:

Sounds good to me.

You guys... I'm speechless. 

[Outlaw_187]

On 8/2/2021 at 6:29 PM, Guppycur said:

Excellent f'en questions, the lot of them. 

 

Thank you. 

_guppy, etc then.  Nice, will make playing nicely together easier. 

Not a direct quote to what you said but I just wanted to take this opportunity to say what a great job you did with your "M" word content. 

I was playing a world that contained many of the zombies you created & I gotta say fabulous job sir!! The work you put into that is greatly appreciated!!

[Khalagar]

On 8/1/2021 at 12:23 PM, stallionsden said:

really dont know why the few keep bringing it up tbh has been stated many times shorter updates wont work and not beneficial for the game and wont occur. 

 

Huh? They pretty explicitly said the opposite after A19 and said they wanted to go to a faster release schedule. Alpha 20 was originally supposed to be a fairly small update that was going to be out before the Winter Steam sale last year, it just got out of the original scope fast.  AFAIK the last time Mad Mole weighed in on the topic, he said they want to do small and fast updates and focus on polishing existing mechanics to get the game to 1.0 Gold and fully released. Then just start working on 7 Days 2 Die (name pending but my favorite) and focus more of the efforts there

 

The "issue" is just them getting side tracked on adding more stuff than originally intended, which isn't a problem to me since I like more content.  The game runs on Valve Time™, it will be out Soon™ and there's no point in harassing them on it, it's better for them to take as long as needed and release something good instead of rushed garbo

 

 

[stallionsden]

14 minutes ago, Khalagar said:

 

Huh? They pretty explicitly said the opposite after A19 and said they wanted to go to a faster release schedule. Alpha 20 was originally supposed to be a fairly small update that was going to be out before the Winter Steam sale last year, it just got out of the original scope fast.  AFAIK the last time Mad Mole weighed in on the topic, he said they want to do small and fast updates and focus on polishing existing mechanics to get the game to 1.0 Gold and fully released. Then just start working on 7 Days 2 Die (name pending but my favorite) and focus more of the efforts there

 

The "issue" is just them getting side tracked on adding more stuff than originally intended, which isn't a problem to me since I like more content.  The game runs on Valve Time™, it will be out Soon™ and there's no point in harassing them on it, it's better for them to take as long as needed and release something good instead of rushed garbo

 

 

They wanting smaller updates and actually doing them are 2 totally different things lol.  Was never a reality nor ever will.

 

There was absolutely no way tfp were gonna do a small a20 update with what they had planned for it.  

 

I say nearing beta the updates be a long process to because they want to finish this game. Madmole ruled out shorter updates ages ago many alphas he has stated the same thing as it was not developmentally efficient and prolonged the release of the full game. 

 

They tried it back in like a12 or something and it failed and held the development back alot longer to. 

This is really a mute topic anyway it never gonna happen. 

[katarynna]

I can see small, frequent updates once bandits are the only major feature left to implement.

 

They will take the longest time. I could totally see them pushing small frequent updates as they get this element or that of the game polished for gold.

 

RWG was always going to take awhile i believe. Water too.