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1 minute ago, MechanicalLens said:

They very well might. What you're asking here is taking something that is trademarked and using it for your own purposes. The last time I checked, under most circumstances that is illegal. You're wasting your time with me though, it's best to check with them directly.

oh I'm sure they wouldn't be happy about it. Would be used to play over edited content of a game that shall not be named to avoid being temp banned again. That's why I was asking if it was fair use.

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32 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

During the recent Bethesda sale, I picked up the entire Fallout franchise (except for 76).
I only really know Fallout 4, and partially at that. I'm starting at Fallout 1 and working my way through them. I'm looking forward to Tactics to see what they did there.
I'm not much of a Bethesda fan, nor a Fallout fan, but I do recognize the impact and significance. I guess I'm considering this a game study.

The originals were all turn based games.  So they played a lot slower and more strategic.  Tactics also was turn based but I think they introduced a new real-time mode which was decent.  I think I kept to the traditional turned based mode though.

 

When Fallout 3 was first announced I was a bit skeptical how they would transition to a FPS game especially the aiming system.  One of the strategic fun in the originals were that you could aim at certain body parts.  I felt Fallout 3 did a great job with the VATS system to keep some of that same strategic fun alive.  I still remember finding the unique "Lincoln's Repeater" rifle and exploding head's in slow motion from far away.  So satisfying.....

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When you are the owner of content, you have the ability to either allow YouTube to automatically disable videos when YouTube detects the use of your content (while giving the channel a strike for unauthorized use), to automatically monetize them so that you get those funds and not the uploader, or to notify you on a per video basis to decide what to do.
 
A lot of people are afraid of getting strikes using the music from games, and rightfully so. Many times people do get strikes, but it's mainly because the content creators (in this case the game devs) monetize their own videos but failed to set how to handle when other people upload the same content.
I don't think TFP is a YouTube partner. However, if someday down the road they become one and monetize their own videos, and they forget to set how to handle copyright claims, every single person uploading 7D2D content with music will start getting strikes.
 
The best thing to do in my opinion is to request permission of usage from TFP via email. This way if things change, whether on purpose or on accident, you as a content creator are protected from YouTube's guidelines.
 
The gaming industry really needs some changes made I think when it comes to things like this. In other words, audio and video should be considered fair use when the content is a presentation of the game play, much like other fair use situations that are currently protected such as for education or parody.

 

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12 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

When you are the owner of content, you have the ability to either allow YouTube to automatically disable videos when YouTube detects the use of your content (while giving the channel a strike for unauthorized use), to automatically monetize them so that you get those funds and not the uploader, or to notify you on a per video basis to decide what to do.
 
A lot of people are afraid of getting strikes using the music from games, and rightfully so. Many times people do get strikes, but it's mainly because the content creators (in this case the game devs) monetize their own videos but failed to set how to handle when other people upload the same content.
I don't think TFP is a YouTube partner. However, if someday down the road they become one and monetize their own videos, and they forget to set how to handle copyright claims, every single person uploading 7D2D content with music will start getting strikes.
 
The best thing to do in my opinion is to request permission of usage from TFP via email. This way if things change, whether on purpose or on accident, you as a content creator are protected from YouTube's guidelines.
 
The gaming industry really needs some changes made I think when it comes to things like this. In other words, audio and video should be considered fair use when the content is a presentation of the game play, much like other fair use situations that are currently protected such as for education or parody.

 

Nonetheless, it's pretty remarkable that content creators are allowed to record games - intellectual property that they don't own the copyright or trademark laws to - and have monetary gain off of the videos. No other studio or company allows you to do that with their product without explicit permission, such as a sponsorship. Music, food and drink brands, etc. come to mind. Sure, some game studios follow the norm - Nintendo, for example - but it's quite remarkable if you ask me that game streams and let's plays are even a thing in the first place.

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8 minutes ago, MechanicalLens said:

Nonetheless, it's pretty remarkable that content creators are allowed to record games - intellectual property that they don't own the copyright or trademark laws to - and have monetary gain off of the videos. No other studio or company allows you to do that with their product without explicit permission, such as a sponsorship. Music, food and drink brands, etc. come to mind. Sure, some game studios follow the norm - Nintendo, for example - but it's quite remarkable if you ask me that game streams and let's plays are even a thing in the first place.

Yes it is, but at the same time it's probably the smarter thing to do. There's no better advertising than free.

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2 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

Yes it is, but at the same time it's probably the smarter thing to do. There's no better advertising than free.

Nonetheless, it's something to keep in mind - corporate could pull the plug anytime they want. Nothing to get paranoid about, just a fun fact at the very least.

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1 minute ago, MechanicalLens said:

Nonetheless, it's something to keep in mind - corporate could pull the plug anytime they want. Nothing to get paranoid about, just a fun fact at the very least.

Yes, absolutely true. I've retired from YouTube not long after Google bought it. However, even to this day, I have the right to go on YouTube and demand any video using my content to be taken down. This isn't really a corporate power thing, it's the power everybody has under copyright law.

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2 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

Yes, absolutely true. I've retired from YouTube not long after Google bought it. However, even to this day, I have the right to go on YouTube and demand any video using my content to be taken down. This isn't really a corporate power thing, it's the power everybody has under copyright law.

Not doubting your abilities but I doubt you'd get very far, but I suppose it depends on the content. Reaction videos infest YouTube like flies to a wound, and unfortunately, they are considered fair use and are protected as such.

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54 minutes ago, Laz Man said:

The originals were all turn based games.  So they played a lot slower and more strategic.  Tactics also was turn based but I think they introduced a new real-time mode which was decent.  I think I kept to the traditional turned based mode though.

 

When Fallout 3 was first announced I was a bit skeptical how they would transition to a FPS game especially the aiming system.  One of the strategic fun in the originals were that you could aim at certain body parts.  I felt Fallout 3 did a great job with the VATS system to keep some of that same strategic fun alive.  I still remember finding the unique "Lincoln's Repeater" rifle and exploding head's in slow motion from far away.  So satisfying.....

Yeah Vats masked the poor combat very nicely. They improved raw combat a lot for Fallout 4. I always loved the slow motion effect, max payne was pretty cool too.

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5 minutes ago, MechanicalLens said:

Nonetheless, it's something to keep in mind - corporate could pull the plug anytime they want. Nothing to get paranoid about, just a fun fact at the very least.

Yeah but if you are going to get technical in that regard then you might as well acknowledge that we are all just granted license to use the software we “purchased”. We are also just licensed to use Steam. Game Developers can revoke that license to use their software and Valve can revoke our license to use Steam at any time. 
 

Lots of plugs able to be pulled at any given time. 

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Just now, Roland said:

Yeah but if you are going to get technical in that regard then you might as well acknowledge that we are all just granted license to use the software we “purchased”. We are also just licensed to use Steam. Game Developers can revoke that license to use their software and Valve can revoke our license to use Steam at any time. 
 

Lots of plugs able to be pulled at any given time. 

Correct. How many games were pulled from the PS4 library during its lifecycle though? 3, maybe 4? Did you know the Queen of England is allowed to kidnap any child as she sees fit, for instance, among many other questionable acts? Not saying that they are impossible, but it's something to keep in mind even if it's unlikely to occur. That's why I could never recommend anyone to do YouTube or Twitch full-time, especially without a plan B and a plan C in mind.

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1 minute ago, MechanicalLens said:

Not doubting your abilities but I doubt you'd get very far, but I suppose it depends on the content. Reaction videos infest YouTube like flies to a wound, and unfortunately, they are considered fair use and are protected as such.

Reaction videos have rules though in order to fall under fair use. One requirement is that the original content cannot be played for too long. The exact amount of time I am unsure. There also must be significant commentary. There were times I have had other people's videos taken down. Some people will just outright reupload an entire video. Other times, they used portions of my videos, so I just claimed their monetization.

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7 minutes ago, madmole said:

Yeah Vats masked the poor combat very nicely. They improved raw combat a lot for Fallout 4. I always loved the slow motion effect, max payne was pretty cool too.

Yeah, Max Payne was an underrated game.  It storytelling and general game world was pretty dark and gloomy and the game did get a bit abstract towards the end but still felt it was a good game.  I even downloaded a matrix mod for that game since the slow motion mechanic fit perfectly for it.  Who wouldn't want to play as Neo in that iconic lobby scene? :)

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8 minutes ago, Phazr said:

Does the stable require a wipe from b180? Or will I be okay to leave my server as is. Im sure this has been asked and I missed it so my bad.

You should do a full wipe, no previous worlds are compitable. That is done on every stable, have fun. 

 

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1 minute ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

Reaction videos have rules though in order to fall under fair use. One requirement is that the original content cannot be played for too long. The exact amount of time I am unsure. There also must be significant commentary. There were times I have had other people's videos taken down. Some people will just outright reupload an entire video. Other times, they used portions of my videos, so I just claimed their monetization.

Streams must fall under different rules then. I don't watch reaction videos/streams out of entertainment but I checked a few out a couple years ago "for science purposes" and I came across a stream of a guy drooling with a bag of chips in his hand, and he was "reacting" to a live event (forgot which one) for 2 hours, and he never said a word. I've lost the link to the stream since (it was on YouTube by the way), but I checked it half a year later and it was still up.

 

MrDalekJD is pretty notorious for having 10-30 seconds of commentary at the beginning of his videos and then outright re-uploading entire videos without any alterations or interruptions on his part, and rarely, if ever, are his videos removed. Hardly surprising though, YouTube is far from perfect.

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1 minute ago, Phazr said:

Also if you enjoy the original fallouts the wasteland 2 was a pretty awesome game

 

 

Thanks beerfly!

I have heard alot about Wasteland 2 and also Atom RPG.  Just haven't had the time to check those titles out. 

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