GhostChilli Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thanks for taking the time out for an update. Always appreciated. I'm really looking forward to the tackling the new POIs. I'd like to have to rely on torches and candles more though as this adds a lot to the suspense of room clearing. In the current build, once you have a minors helmet it becomes too easy in the dark and the fear factor lessens. Keep up the good work. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hmmmmm.....I know about the rooftop (and it’s terrifying) but not about the underground (which is the one I’m most interested in learning...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 ... and there will be no safe place on horde night. The old cheesy rooftop exploit or digging underground will not save you ... Thanks for the video =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zWolfer Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hey devs, why not bring Frostbitten Worker zombie back to the game? She was good in A12.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Entities can have AOEs and if "the" campfire buff is getting changed over to the new system then it won't be a one-off. Excellent! I know how you feel... But if your gonna keep this up, you'll be very busy *you’re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thanks for the video MM... Looks really good. I especially enjoyed seeing the distant trees! @Crater: Ok, seems that *I* just got rekt... Good catch, me suck... I blame the school system!!! Definitely NOT because I was lazy... No no not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrakicking Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The old cheesy rooftop exploit or digging underground will not save you. This got my attention. So no more digging underground or sitting on a rooftop, huh? How exactly is this possible? In order to get you they'd have to take the house down or dig down to get you. Update looking great, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost Amman Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Release the Kraken Thanks for posting! :-] To be honest there's not as much as I'd expected to talk about until the next video!! What I mean is that it would be great to see the new skill list and some info on the new level progression system attributes and the stealth system... but ok, I guess it's not ready for prime time yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survager Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 @madmole, thanks for video. Church look awesome!!! ) I want to ask about the distant trees in 17 Alpha. Can we see distant trees if we cut them down? In 16 Alpha there is such a problem with buildings. We change or destroy the building, but in the distance everything looks as if nothing has changed. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiiTee Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Oh.. My.. ZOMBIE HP BARS.. WHAT IS THIS ?!?! and finally.. I get to see how much ridiculous HP and Regen a Copper runs around with! - Also... Are you maybe gonna balance that because eeh it's less fun having to unload a bucket load of shots into their heads and nothing happens and then all of a sudden they blow up killing you in the process ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidobunny Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 whoa the hp bar is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodeth Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The old cheesy rooftop exploit or digging underground will not save you... Can you elaborate please or give us a video of this at the least. This is the sort of video we would like to see, and actual change that affects almost everyone in a playstyle way. - - - Updated - - - @madmole, thanks for video. Church look awesome!!! ) I want to ask about the distant trees in 17 Alpha. Can we see distant trees if we cut them down? In 16 Alpha there is such a problem with buildings. We change or destroy the building, but in the distance everything looks as if nothing has changed. Thanks! yeah we destroy a POI and it still shows up in the distance as if nothing has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlayerGM Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thanks Joel for the new video! The new trees look awesome and the fact that now they are rendered much farther away is great news! I love them Damn, I really do not like the zombie hp bar. It is ugly, too big and it is activated before you even do damage. Sorry ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Release the Kraken This gave me a bit of a surprise. I usually associate the releasing of the kraken with the release of a new alpha. I also noticed the avatar didn't change which would have also noted a release of a new alpha. I was confused, excited and disappointed.....puberty all over again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXC.H.U.DXx Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 This gave me a bit of a surprise. I usually associate the releasing of the kraken with the release of a new alpha. I also noticed the avatar didn't change which would have also noted a release of a new alpha. I was confused, excited and disappointed.....puberty all over again.... Welcome to my world......... i just Lurk now - - - Updated - - - I'm going to just say I got rekt hard in two cut video sequences. The AI mysteriously swarms around you and you get surrounded and with the new movement system you can't simply run circles around them any more, so combat and entering a POI is harder, the AI is better and you had better be on your toes. Manage your stamina too. It all needs much balancing, but I see this as "its going to be totally awesome, living in fear again" and there will be no safe place on horde night. The old cheesy rooftop exploit or digging underground will not save you. BTW, I didn't get rekt because its too hard, but because I made mistakes. The levels are set up in a way to organically surround you if you aren't aware of your surroundings. I think footsteps are broken too so that added to me getting rekt. Challenge excepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xrt Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Not being safe on rooftops, or underground, is a huge new feature. I really wish you could elaborate a few words on how this is done. That is so cool. Not being safe on horde night is what it's all about, IMO A17 looks great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 One thing that stood out to me in the video, or rather didn’t stand out, was the bleeding buff. Madmole’s character starts bleeding at two points in the video, and he applies a bandage one of those times. I noticed two indicators for bleeding: the buff icon, and the tooltip. I only noticed the tooltip on the second viewing, but in fairness it was still programmer text (“injurybleedingtooltip”). In contrast, when the player’s fullness gets low (in A16), this gets an indicator in the form of a sound effect (stomach growling) every time it decreases, in addition to the buff icon. Bleeding damage is a more immediate concern than decreasing fullness, so it deserves more prominent feedback than the other in my view. And during combat, when it matters most, I’d sooner pick up on a pained grunt sound effect, or the screen flaring up red when my character bleeds, than a line of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun279 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 god damn that felt satisfying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Data Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 My thoughts A few questions:- 1- I don’t think that the “health bar” at the top for zombies is really needed, it’s not as if this is a streetfighter or mortal combat 90’s arcade fight game, if you batter a zombie, and you havent finished him off, then thats your fault in not finishing the job, dont need to see a health bar 2- How much does Joel actually play the game? It’s funny watching his vid, he’s useless! 3- I love the current weapon/tool upgrade system, in having to scavenge for new parts, to upgrade them all at a workbench, putting them together, it adds to the overall, desolate theme to the game, making it a scale of 1-5 and that’s it, just seems pointless but thanks for the update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Zombies haven't been able to dig down for a long time now, that will get fixed if it isn't. Sad to hear that. Now I can't have a nice garden if I build a basement... That was the problem, they didn't take the house down. They run around break a few blocks but not actually do much damage to the building. Yey! Now theres a reason to build intelligently (I hope). I hope for many wtf moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamer1337 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 hp bar is placeholder for developers, it doesnt mean it will be in final alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Zombies haven't been able to dig down for a long time now, that will get fixed if it isn't. Excellent! There have been hundreds of pages of discussion on zombie digging around here, so I’ll just repeat one of the best ideas I’ve heard suggested. Instead of all zombies digging, have a digging specialist type that digs a hole, opening a path for the other non-diggers. This will ameliorate the ‘Swiss cheese problem’ and make dealing with the horde more situational a la spiders and vultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeen Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Zombie wrecking machines? Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xQuizate87 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I'm going to just say I got rekt hard in two cut video sequences. The AI mysteriously swarms around you and you get surrounded and with the new movement system you can't simply run circles around them any more, so combat and entering a POI is harder, the AI is better and you had better be on your toes. Manage your stamina too. It all needs much balancing, but I see this as "its going to be totally awesome, living in fear again" and there will be no safe place on horde night. The old cheesy rooftop exploit or digging underground will not save you. BTW, I didn't get rekt because its too hard, but because I made mistakes. The levels are set up in a way to organically surround you if you aren't aware of your surroundings. I think footsteps are broken too so that added to me getting rekt. OK I'm digging (pun intended) how underground is no longer safe. i'm just wondering about one cheesy strategy that i always employed was to swim out into the middle of a lake and just hold in the swim button until morning. are zeds going to be able to swim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobarg Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I know there is still a bit of time until actually being released but to my own utter astonishment I may actually live to see A17! Also... ♥♥♥♥ cancer! Thanks 7DTD for keeping me sane for so many many hours. So many good people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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