Melita Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) So a friend of mine was excited that his wife decided to take helicopter pilot training. When I asked him why .. he said "That way we can escape easier when the zombie apocalypse happens." I told him that he should have no fear because I have boats and we can easily escape using them. we got into a whole discussion about which would be better.. I decided to put it to forum. what do you think? Moderator note: This was actually a spam account and has been handled, but we're leaving it open for the sake of the earnest discussion that followed. Edited May 3, 2021 by Crater Creator (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughphunghus Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) Boat is better. Reasons: - can use less gas = less resources - can hold more items - can travel farther ( in theory you could cross continents) - for basic use, requires little to no training - crashes are likely not fatal - you can drop anchor and sleep/eat/cook/read/relax - can use oars/sails and be “silent”, especially if wanting to travel at night. Mostly probably to move without needing seen by people. - you can tie boats together and have floating islands. Multiple escape boats, etc - boats will likely be everywhere for the taking once a lot of people have died. You can likely get to an abandoned boat and pull it out into the water to loot/reclaim/siphon fuel/etc. - you can fish from a boat, generate food. - “anyone” can afford a boat, at least for “escape” purposes of “drive the boat from the house/city to the water”. But not for “long term living” of course, this is a rosy boat outlook. If you’re “in the sea” vs “freshwater lake” you’ll have more challenges. But, the benefits from a chopper are: - can cover a lot of land/ground area, to scout for food/supplies. - less likely to be attacked by pirates (but you can be shot at from the ground). - can rescue people easier on land. Given the above, a chopper is great if you need to get to a nice big abandoned boat you can then live on. Edit: I’ve been on small boats, never owned one. I’m not part of Big Boat trying to keep Big Chopper down or anything. secondary edit: - boat is cheaper to store and maintain to prep for zed end times. Boat can be wintered and “ready” by someone with little boat knowledge. - repair/parts for boats are more likely to exist/be found/available. If parts cannot be found, you can possibly cobble something together or go without. - if you see other survivors, you can likely shout to them and communicate whilst on your boat. - if bandits are shooting at you from land, you’re likely to be able to repair your boat. tertiary edit: - if you have a family, and pets . you’re more likely to fit them all on a boat. - if you have family, and they need to go to the bathroom, they can just do this over the side of the boat, even while you are driving. - there are likely to be more opportunities to charge handheld devices while on a boat, so your family is more likely to shut up and stop complaining about boat life. Additionally, you might be able to get a PC on board and play 7D2D while on the boat (multiplayer co-op with family). Edited May 2, 2021 by doughphunghus (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidster Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) The obvious answer is this: Edited May 2, 2021 by Boidster (see edit history) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) @Boidster There's also this one: Edited May 3, 2021 by Maharin (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthjake Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I'll direct you to John's Ringo's Black Tide series. The first book is Under a Graveyard Sky. And yes, Boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Both have advantages and disadvantages I guess but I would prefer a boat (Biased, live on an island ). I think anchoring in deep water I would be able to sleep better. Until zombies learn how to climb up the anchor line and kill me in my sleep. Edited May 3, 2021 by Gamida stupid spelling mistake (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junuxx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 A heli draws far too much unwanted attention from both zombies and potentially hostile survivors. Plus, you can't really live on one. I'd much prefer a nice infinite range solar yacht. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidster Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Wow, we truly do live in "the future!" A modern, high-tech utopia where we can harness infinite renewable energy to move across the water. I'm glad I lived to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, Boidster said: Wow, we truly do live in "the future!" A modern, high-tech utopia where we can harness infinite renewable energy to move across the water. I'm glad I lived to see it. They even make wind based ones, too! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Solarboat's are nice but a combination of solar and wind would be better. Back to the topic. Boat with Gyrocopter. Helicopter is pretty complex, harder to maintain and if you use a modern one, you won't get replacements for broken electronic. At the first time a big heli could have advance since he can explore overland much better, while a boat is limited to the water area. An bigger Airship with hydrogen, would be my alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junuxx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Solar blimp then. I wonder what kind of crops I should grow in my zeppelin garden for the best nutrition yield by weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Blackbear Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Junuxx said: Solar blimp then. I wonder what kind of crops I should grow in my zeppelin garden for the best nutrition yield by weight. Potatoes. Always go with potatoes. Just make sure to have a few lemon trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbluebeer Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Boats, or... if you have a place waaaayyy up north... that might work too. "The Last Canadian" covered it. Not zombies but... plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidster Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Maharin said: They even make wind based ones, too! OMGWTFBBQ mind blown. Edited May 4, 2021 by Boidster (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Maharin said: They even make wind based ones, too! Seems like science fiction to me. Possibly near future tech. 6 hours ago, Canute said: An bigger Airship with hydrogen, would be my alternative. Now you've done it. You've attracted the attention of @Aldranon. Fly you fools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Roland said: Seems like science fiction to me. Possibly near future tech. Now you've done it. You've attracted the attention of @Aldranon. Fly you fools! Too late, old man. Bubu the bear and his flying assault team are ready to jump/zipline into hostile territory! Need I say, things go sideways and in every other direction when they're disappointed. All they want, is to be treated with a little respect that 800 pounds of sheading claws and tearing teeth deserve. They are marching in the middle of the freeway with signs that say: "Bears are people too!" Anyone want to tell them they're wrong? About anything? Lets make this nice and easy. Slowly pull out the airships and give them (slowly) to the bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Q2 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/3/2021 at 7:06 PM, Maharin said: They even make wind based ones, too! 🤨 Nope, don't believe you 😛 So much for boats. Maybe a deep hole in the ground 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Don't zombie sharks just want fish brains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Q2 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Maharin said: Don't zombie sharks just want fish brains? This is a burning question. Much research must be undertaken. Nope, but they do seem to like limbs. Arms, legs, anything that can be removed with much screaming to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 How would you possible land anywhere without alerting everything for several miles in a heli? Boats have stealth possibilities and that alone seals the deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Blackbear Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'll take boats too. Boats float on the water, helicopters fly by throwing themselves away from the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayBur Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It's a pity, I didn't have time to read the story that the topicstarter wrote here. This discussion is very interesting, however, if this is a spam account, then this whole story is just a fake. In general, in both cases, a bit of a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Car boat! Hire me FUN PIMPS! On 5/5/2021 at 10:12 AM, Maharin said: Don't zombie sharks just want fish brains? I feel bad for wastelanders in the coastline! Zombie sharks are no joke! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Q2 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Urban Blackbear said: I'll take boats too. Boats float on the water, helicopters fly by throwing themselves away from the ground. No, no. You have that backwards. The key to flying is throwing yourself at the ground... and missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starscream Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 i would go with a classic amphibious beaver, and something i know how to fly. this can also take me to remote areas in northern canada where i can survive off the land for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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