Odetta Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Why release 17.3 when A18 is gonna drop next month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Out of curiosity, what happened to that spear we were "promised" a looong time ago? Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Why release 17.3 when A18 is gonna drop next month? Not everyone plays experimental, and why subject people to bugs that are fixed? Some sound particularly nasty like some of the networking bugs. Furthermore, why make testing of 18 bigger than it needs to be? Lets get these fixes out and tested so 18 isn't as hard to go stable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Why release 17.3 when A18 is gonna drop next month? The people who will hate the changes in A18 will need a nice place to revert to so they can still play but also post that they (and everyone they know) are NOT playing A18 with as much righteous indignation as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonoid74 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I am still playing Alpha 7! when It was all square and blocky terrain! <hip to be square> Screw all your fancy splat maps and distant terrain! SAID NOBODY EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FileMachete Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 The people who will hate the changes in A18 will need a nice place to revert to so they can still play but also post that they are NOT playing A18 with as much righteous indignation as possible. and some peeps say you'e heartless... <joking!> Ok, apologies but since we're getting so much info... MM, would you possibly chat about melee shields? They've just always seemed like such a rational 'first step' in a ZA.,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drithyl Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. That would be ♥♥♥♥ing amazing, pardon my French. Please, make it happen. I want to explode a zombie head by throwing a spear to their face. EDIT: Hell, if you're gonna implement that, please implement stacks of throwing weapons too, like javelins, knives or axes, that do significantly more damage than arrows or bolts but come in much smaller stacks. Few games have throwing weapons properly represented, and Mount&Blade Warband has some of the most satisfying throwing weapon kills in the world. It could be a strength-based ranged weapon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odetta Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 That would be ♥♥♥♥ing amazing, pardon my French. Please, make it happen. I want to explode a zombie head by throwing a spear to their face. EDIT: Hell, if you're gonna implement that, please implement stacks of throwing weapons too, like javelins, knives or axes, that do significantly more damage than arrows or bolts but come in much smaller stacks. Few games have throwing weapons properly represented, and Mount&Blade Warband has some of the most satisfying throwing weapon kills in the world. It could be a strength-based ranged weapon! Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicUs5000 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Not everyone plays experimental, and why subject people to bugs that are fixed? Some sound particularly nasty like some of the networking bugs. Furthermore, why make testing of 18 bigger than it needs to be? Lets get these fixes out and tested so 18 isn't as hard to go stable with. I'm happy that's the plan... and hopefully A18 will get some hype, some better reviews, and more fans. Like I said before, A18 is looking like it's the A17 everybody was hoping for... and it deserves a smooth launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielspoa Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. yes please btw I saw u answering a comment about A17.3 soon and A18 in a month, but I didn't find more info. Is this serious info or only a fan prediction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Quit It Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Wow I just want to say thanks for your service, it was an insane event. Yes enjoying what you are doing makes a huge difference. I'm very grateful to work in games as it is very rewarding and fun industry to work in. I mean can you imagine influencing so many people with your work? Its really a crazy cool feeling to have so many passionate fans about what we're doing. Thx...insane is a good word for it. Lost more than my health that day! I was walking that building in 93' about 10 minutes after as well....2x was enough for me....3rd time is the charm as they say....you can have it!! 7DtD is one of the best games out there....never have I gotten more out of a $20 game. Having fun is the other half of the equation to loving your job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archergod Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Still need to discuss all the smaller details. It might just have everlasting power otherwise if it ran out of ammo you would be totally defenseless and the idea is melee. It can has durability like other melee weapon, if durability is out it is battery out and then to repair it use repair kit that charge its battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archergod Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Not everyone plays experimental, and why subject people to bugs that are fixed? Some sound particularly nasty like some of the networking bugs. Furthermore, why make testing of 18 bigger than it needs to be? Lets get these fixes out and tested so 18 isn't as hard to go stable with. does RWG fix make to 17.3 or will come with A18, of all the things I will play version that has RWG fix... rest of bugs don't worry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Are there any balance changes against too many radiated zeds spawns at houses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Those are filled but if an opportunity hire came along we'd hire them, so the jobs are still listed. You either need to have shipped a game or be a guild hall graduate to get a job as a world builder. Its so much more involved than people think it is. Study real world architecture, construction, and look at a lot of games. I think we've brought on like 3 new level designers this last year and have a total of seven now. My advice is to fake it until you make it. In other words do what your dream job is at night and on weekends in your spare time. Pretty soon you will become just that, and be able to make a living at it. You have to have a portfolio full of amazing work, that is what gets you noticed. Work with modders on projects or just make your own. Two years from now you should have a portfolio full of amazing work to show off. I haven't played guitar in 25 years and wasn't ever that great at it back in the day. I started playing 45 minutes a day 5-7 days a week and I think its my one year anniversary now, and I'm way better than I was when I quit. If you just commit to some reasonable amount of time nearly every day to practice a new craft you can get pretty good. Judge your work and release your work as mods for others to download and listen to their crits with an open mind. That is the fastest way to improve. Start with small projects and advance to bigger ones. Make sure you finish everything, so once you finish a shed that is amazing, advance to a 1br house, then do a 2, then a mansion, etc. Lighting, detail that matters, interesting architecture, mood, theme and performance are all very important things to consider in design. Game flow as well, how does it play? Good advice, and I appreciate the extensive response. In my case, I’ve been fortunate enough to have 'made' it. I’ve worked professionally as a game designer for over five years, and I’ve contributed to over a dozen shipped games. I recently re-released my first major 7DtD mod, having rewritten it for Alpha 17, which should free me up to focus more on prefabbing now. If any of that sounds interesting (and I hope it does), please refer to my application for more. To everyone else, thanks for bearing with me - I know you’re not here for my life story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 <snp>. Good luck, you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. How about bringing back the idea of shields for the fortitude weapon? The defensive nature of the weapon and boost to armour compliments the fortitude stat quite well. That, and I really want shields.. mmmmm... shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kage848 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'm sure it won't be, but the goal is to have melee and ranged weapons governed by every attribute so players can finally specialize. Not every melee under STR and every ranged under Per. I dont know what you have planned so take my comment with a grain of salt. For me I'd like to see all the non combat perks taken out of the per and str trees. You say you want specialization but theres some must have perks in those trees. In sorry but pack mule is a must have. So is sexrex and I'd argure all of them. If you made the a perk trees specificly for melee or ranged that would allow us to specialize in one or the other. The real issue with specialization is the attribute cost, not the perks. So if we are going to specialize, talking sp here, we need to be able to skip attribute trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nice Cup of Tea Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'm sure it won't be, but the goal is to have melee and ranged weapons governed by every attribute so players can finally specialize. Not every melee under STR and every ranged under Per. Its the INT guys weapon. It takes little strength or agility to be effective. I'm sure he'll have a perk that increases stun time/damage etc. Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. I definitely like the idea of characters being able to specialise more. One thing that might help people specialize - from a psychological aspect rather than a mechanical aspect - is renaming the attributes so they are things you do rather than measures that you possess. For example if the "Strength" attribute was called "Brawler", and the "Intelligence" attribute was called "Crafter", it would fit with people's perception of their role in a group or of what their character does. When talking about their role in a group or their play style, people use terms like "I'm the Builder of the group" or "I'm a Crafter" or "I'm a Scavenger". They don't say things like "I'm the Strong one" or "I'm the Perceptive one". So by giving the attributes similar names to roles people take on and identify with rather than measures that everyone has (there may only be one Crafter in the group, but everyone has an Intelligence) it would make people identify more with a single attribute and subtly - or maybe not so subtly - encourage specialization. This would need no mechanical change over and above the slight perk re-organisation that you're already doing, but - at least in my opinion - it would change the feel of the perk system for the better and encourage specialization as people identify more with roles than with generic measures. Everyone has Strength, but not everyone is a Brawler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hek Harris Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I hope you guys will have a look at electricity in A18 : solar systems are unusuable because of lag. I launched a PVP game 2 weeks ago on a server with ten friends (all enemies) : we had a blast, everything was enjoyable and challenging but when I decided to upgrade my electric network to solar, it became impossible to play. Not a big deal, but solar is a good way to protect your base in PVP without logging every day so it would be cool that it works... Finaly I removed the connections with the panels and went back to generators but my castle needs more autonomy ! ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It can has durability like other melee weapon, if durability is out it is battery out and then to repair it use repair kit that charge its battery. Good idea! Flashlights too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 How about bringing back the idea of shields for the fortitude weapon? The defensive nature of the weapon and boost to armour compliments the fortitude stat quite well. That, and I really want shields.. mmmmm... shields. Something like this but handmade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareee Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 How about bringing back the idea of shields for the fortitude weapon? The defensive nature of the weapon and boost to armour compliments the fortitude stat quite well. That, and I really want shields.. mmmmm... shields. Jayick/matick's Melee mod I mention has riot shields that have an area effect knocking down all the close zeds. Both his farming and melee mods are must try things.. he has a firearms mod, but IMHO that just adds way too many guns that we don;t want to manage. I wouldn't mind his farming and melee mods being rolled into vanilla, but the only thing I'd want to see in vanilla from his firearms mod would be his minigun.... its pretty amazing! They are all great examples of things that can be added right now, but some items maybe shouldn't be in vanilla for various intended play mechanic reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareee Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Good idea! Flashlights too Who even uses a flashlight after day 2 or three finding a mining helmet? Micro managing things like batteries in flashlights or torches that burn out just are more tedious than fun. Flashlights are useful on day one, but after that they pretty much are just junk that piles up. Maybe they could be added to turrets so they would have working spotlights, but for now flashlights are just scrapable junk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Perception needs a melee weapon so maybe that will fit in there. Now that we have arrow retrieval it shouldn't be a big problem to left click jab, right click throw. I don't understand why every stat needs a ranged and a melee weapon. It feels knee-jerk and not so well thought out. **Now a set of minimum stats for each weapon, to operate without penalty makes some sense. Hip fire a M-60 and you will agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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