madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Irrelevant. Tying mining to specific combat styles does not help the progressions system. That is a major problem with a17. So lets just delete attributes and have ala cart perks like ark? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 There could be a “tripple shot” option for the bow, shooting 3 arrows at the same time, low accuracy, with a similar effect as the shotgun. Make the bow more useful when shooting into a crowd. Or just use the exploding arrows? Explosions actually work now so I think they will gain popularity in A18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perlin_Worm Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Interesting, that I decided to test as I'm in-game now, and only now do I notice that the it does drain stamina when drawing it. Now simply aiming down, but actually drawing it. I think the problem though is that it differs from the crossbow, with the crossbow just by simply aiming down sights, the stamina goes down and quite fast I'd say compared to the wooden bow and compound bow. Crossbow has definitely lost its appeal with its slow draw. Removing stamina penalty altogether would be a start in making it worthwhile again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Video? :02.47-tranquillity: I don't want to crush the ego of the normies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Madmole, when can we watch some video? or see images of new things? Do you want the new zombie? I could care less about the demolisher right now, I'm obsessed with progression and looting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Crossbow has definitely lost its appeal with its slow draw. Removing stamina penalty altogether would be a start in making it worthwhile again. It's still a good weapon for stealth. With Boom Headshot and Hidden Strike at maximum I can kill even the most radioactive zombies with a targeted head shot from my fully modded Q6 crossbow. The advantage of the crossbow over the bow is that you can attach a 2x scope to the crossbow. So the crossbow is much more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 It's still a good weapon for stealth. With Boom Headshot and Hidden Strike at maximum I can kill even the most radioactive zombies with a targeted head shot from my fully modded Q6 crossbow. The advantage of the crossbow over the bow is that you can attach a 2x scope to the crossbow. So the crossbow is much more accurate. At that point in the game Id rather a sniper rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perlin_Worm Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Perhaps when feathers become scarce crossbows will come into its own. Though, currently compound fires so quick and powerful with perks its the go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 You might want to do a little research on that. Longbows and crossbows have many differences but when it comes to range and power they're pretty evenly matched. The longbow should be harder to aim without putting points in the archery skill and drain more stamina when drawn. This is balanced by the crossbows terrible rate of fire. I didn't put much thought into it, but what you suggest would work, but people might have a cow if drawing the bow took stamina, but I like the idea of it. Skyrim's does. I'm not sure this will help any. But I for one really like this idea! Makes a lot of sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 The pen is mightier than the pick! Depends totally on your time frame. On short time frames, the pen is really not that powerful. Unless its situational or somthing like a signature. On long time frames though. The written word, and even images, can be very powerful indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enragedcamel Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm very curious about the random zombie speed thing. The description reminds me of Dying Light, where zombies are normally slow, but can suddenly make a dash for you, which really keeps you on your toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 At that point in the game Id rather a sniper rifle I have also tried it but the sniper rifle is in my eyes no better than the crossbow and even with silencer the rifle seems to me to be louder than a crossbow. In addition, I have no problems with the ammunition consumption. In contrast to 7.62mm ammunition, I have never had to make crossbow bolts myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I probably never noticed because I iron site. Me too! Don't you hate how the crosshairs remains visible when in ironsights? Hopefully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Me too! Don't you hate how the crosshairs remains visible when in ironsights? Hopefully? I found a modlet that removes the crosshairs from all weapons except the wooden bow. https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?97470-Remove-crosshair-while-aiming-(right-click) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Me too! Don't you hate how the crosshairs remains visible when in ironsights? Hopefully? +1.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm very curious about the random zombie speed thing. The description reminds me of Dying Light, where zombies are normally slow, but can suddenly make a dash for you, which really keeps you on your toes. That describes it pretty well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Me too! Don't you hate how the crosshairs remains visible when in ironsights? Hopefully? Kind of, but since we have weapon spread how do you indicate that without the crosshair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Kind of, but since we have weapon spread how do you indicate that without the crosshair? Maybe turning it off and on when you want/need to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm very curious about the random zombie speed thing. The description reminds me of Dying Light, where zombies are normally slow, but can suddenly make a dash for you, which really keeps you on your toes. since this is working now... i have spent more time spawning on my bedroll standing on my toes! died 3 times before the 1st BMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 SICK! That's a great idea. I loved that skill in Horizon and this would actually be a good balance for having the bow do less damage per arrow than the crossbow. Crossbow would have superior accuracy and damage at range, and while bow could have good ranged accuracy with perks it would also have an advantage up close and with crowds. Especially if you could fire 3 flaming arrows into a group every couple seconds! Or make a new clothing item location for a Quiver that would allow for faster bow firing. If a person doesn't use a quiver then allow that spot to be used by a satchel bag for a quick change in toolbelt items for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survager Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I could care less about the demolisher right now, I'm obsessed with progression and looting. Madmole, please do not show us in the video of the new zombie destroyer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimpy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Maybe there should be superheavy wind-up crossbows. They would have lower DPS than longbows, but be differentiated by large upfront damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Maybe turning it off and on when you want/need to? No. Guys can mod it out if they dislike it IMO. The average guy will want to know the spread. I'd rather see a variety of crosshairs so its a grouping size instead of a crosshair so it doesn't interfere with iron sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Madmole, please do not show us in the video of the new zombie destroyer! He's in a t pose right now so I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 He's in a t pose right now so I won't. ? (Time zone has me up at 4am. My site seeing is done for the day.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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