Survager Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 5 days from when it was cleared. Will count and zombie types for POI will reload only if we complete cleared this POI? So, if leave 1 zombie in POI and return to this POI after 5 day, I will get only 1 zombie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 This week everyone has been doing the usual finishing and fixing. What I hinted about yesterday was...vehicle passengers is working. My more exciting changes: Fixed SDTD-8907 Zombie Screamers can see through walls (added sight to woodBlock Collide). Added AI scout grace period (2 secs) before it will scream and can't scream when stunned. Changed AI scout scream again delay (-2), spawn distance (80m) and spawn scout (+2%). Added AI ApproachSpot adds a path location if a scout. Increased path location duration to 4. Changed wandering hordes to start and end on a line 30-45m to the side of the targeted players. Added wandering hordes have 30% chance to skip for 12 hours if targeting a single player. Refactored vehicle save/net data to use common code and have multiple data categories. Refactored attachments so detach is separate and slot value is sent over network. Fixed vehicle passengers jittered in and out of seat and had old pos, so chunks did not load. Fixed vehicles moving to inaccurate positions for observers. Fixed remote vehicles could enable physics and passenger camera would only work then. Fixed SDTD-8495 Vehicles can be duped by placing and taking. Fixed vehicle could be taken while it had a driver. Replaced minibike horn part with vehicle hornSound property and added to all vehicles. Alright then, that is great news about the passengers. Now, here is the important things.....do you have a taxi sign added that can be mounted on your vehicle? Did you add pizza to the foods so I can have something to deliver. A person has to make a few dukes anyway they can right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Quit It Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I hope Unity comes out with another update...so we can get some real optimization in game. Coughs* Release the Kraken *Coughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mengseth Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Gah just release it as an experimental build already. I keep trying to play A16 but I just can't get in to it thinking that any minute now A17 is going to release and I will need to start over again. Thinking exactly the same! RELEASE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I hope Unity comes out with another update...so we can get some real optimization in game. Coughs* Release the Kraken *Coughs We really, really don't want TFP to do a Unity update right now. That being said, I'd love to take a month out and implement Terraria style water using the funky new entity component system. This assumes TFP have enabled the package and their's no weird SDX problems with Unity's new package manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hmm. I'll have to bring that up in the next design meeting. It certainly sounds more apocalyptic. Start with the shopping cart... ...then forget to do the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Gazz, Roland, any info on the weather updates? I hated the weather and color scheme change whenever I stepped into another biome. You can’t not notice it and it looked so unnatural - step out of a forest to a field and the sky goes crazy... I’d never build a base in plains biome because of the color scheme. And the radical weather change - you reach another biome and the weather and visibility goes bad so you go back and aroun the biome to get sunshine back. I think we need more global weather with visible buildup to make gameplay better. You see a sunny weather - go exploring, see storm building up - take shelter if you don’t have a raincoat... not this “flicering” whern you are close to biome borders. If they spread the change timer to two minutes instead if two seconds... That'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Quit It Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 We really, really don't want TFP to do a Unity update right now. That being said, I'd love to take a month out and implement Terraria style water using the funky new entity component system. This assumes TFP have enabled the package and their's no weird SDX problems with Unity's new package manager. No guts...No glory!! - - - Updated - - - If they spread the change timer to two minutes instead if two seconds... That'd be great. That's what she said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just finished watching the Unity episode from Rick and Morty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathless Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just finished watching the Unity episode from Rick and Morty Feels like rick an morty season 4 is gonna come out before A17 am I right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVegaNL Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I still don't accept the implementation of the term 'clay soil', based on geological grounds (ha!). ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I suppose is vehicle passengers. Thanks anyway man! They flying repository....I mean blimp will make it in!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesipher Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 It isnt the singular issue of clay patches being removed. Of course on its own its a non issue of sorts, but my chief concern is when you look at the big picture in conjunction with ALL the removals and changes. Now youre looking at a stripped down system. A less complicated system and a system that promotes LESS activity, even if it is opening a map and moving 30 feet. Most mods, heck ALL mods are adding complicated systems and gameplay mechanics. Starvation, Walkers, Valmod, Darkness Falls, UL, name it and it adds so much. Yeah Im going to work my magic as will all of these others. That does not change the fact I love this game for the game itself. I can sit back and have the attitude of "haha its ok ill just make it better". I want to love vanilla first and foremost. It is what I fell in love with first. NOT a mod. Every time more news comes out about some changes or some tweaks it just feels like another door being shut on a mechanic or a feature that didnt really need to be removed. I mean, did someone at a meeting actually sit there and say "You know what, those clay patches they really need to go to take us to the next level". Its change for the sake of simplicity. Gore Blocks gone, zombie loot all but gone, plants no longer need replanted, plains gone, gun parts and statistics on them gone, vehicle parts gone, lockpicking dropped . I mean the list of what is still in the game is getting smaller and smaller. Now Roland, you say all soil is just soil. No more burnt forest ground, plains ground etc. Does this mean ALL ground looks like the foresty one now except desert and snow? Why are you guys so intent on taking away the uniqueness of what you took YEARS to build. Out of spite? WHY remove plains at all? So now most ground will also have simple looks to them? Where is the variety? Why strip away the games identity to become a plain jane survival clone? You guys had this on lockdown. Sky was the limit. A13 seemed like the moment someone decided it was not a survival type game anymore. Its a sandbox game. Yet someone is removing a lot of the sandbox. Sure we will have the tools to make our OWN sand, but that sandbox is only so fun to play in if the box gets smaller and the park next door is building one twice the size. I couldn't agree more. I have been a long time fanboy and have long since gotten my monies worth from this game but from all I have heard about what is to come I fear that this streamlining/simplifying is going to kill my interest in continuing play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survager Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Roland or Joel, is it still topical??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Every time more news comes out about some changes or some tweaks it just feels like another door being shut on a mechanic or a feature that didnt really need to be removed. I mean, did someone at a meeting actually sit there and say "You know what, those clay patches they really need to go to take us to the next level". Its change for the sake of simplicity. Gore Blocks gone, zombie loot all but gone, plants no longer need replanted, plains gone, gun parts and statistics on them gone, vehicle parts gone, lockpicking dropped . I mean the list of what is still in the game is getting smaller and smaller. Are you really serious when you say "gun parts gone" when they really are replaced by some other system we don't have any experience with yet and then argue the game is getting smaller or easier because of this? Essentially the game changes alot between alphas. Some things are added, some removed. Now you are only listing the things that got removed and ignore all that were added and declare the game is getting smaller and easier. Is that an argument or a rant? (Were lockpicks ever implemented in vanilla, I thought they were only an idea at one time? If the former, how can they have been dropped or making the game smaller?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorious Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Exactly, who remembers when you had to make molds and could craft as many gun parts as you wanted? I miss those days, basically having to make a blueprint of the first item you find in order to make many. The game in a16 is quite different than it used to me. I don't remember where I was going with this... must be getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiercedFromWithin Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 If they spread the change timer to two minutes instead if two seconds... That'd be great. That would help so much when traveling near the edge of a biome. Also in those little "pocket valleys" along the mountain tops, when you think "oh hey I'd like to harvest a little of that stuff(or just walk through it)" and it changes from winter to summer back to winter then back to summer and finally back to winter again all in the span of 30 seconds. Yeah, removing that would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Love vehicle passenger being fixed! Yaay! Major thing there! Vehicle could be taken while it had a driver? We can pick up vehicles? Or you mean the vehicle parts and dismantling it? That sounds funny. Someone drives by and you quicky "access" and dismantle it before the game puts it out of reach, dropping the player into your inventory! Capture success! You can pickup vehicles, which places them as an item in your inventory, just like they were when you first created one. You can also drop them like a bag or put in a container for others. In the future, there may be a restriction on the larger vehicles being taken. Vehicles and guns no longer have a part list UI. You make then from parts and get a single item. The item now has mod slots shown in a UI similar to the old part UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiles111 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Things that I can remember that are gone Running in buildings during the day. Smells. Hearing Drag and drop crafting system. Gore blocks All z’s attack at night like it was 7th day everynight. King of the Hill Jumping 2 blocks high Needing water in the gardens Craft spamming to level up Huge cave systems Spider web traps Spider webs in empty containers Big loot load at the completion of cutting tree or mining rock Flickering candle/torch light Old feral bullet sponges Radiation in game besides navesgame (one poi had it) Block terrain Z detection night or day from a mile away. GUI map GUI Z location and direction Usefulness of throwing rocks Punji style spike traps Zip lines Lock picking Big boss z’s (cannot remember what they were called) Bandits Framerates (lol) And the main one is The theme song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are many more than this. Some were good reasons and some were not so good reason that they were removed. Some were puzzling as to why they were removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eagle LXIX Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Once a volume spawns, it saves the count and zombie types. As killed, it updates. When it reloads it still has that state until it resets. Nope, because it respawns the same zombies. 5 days from when it was cleared. So based on description, a potential new way to game the system is to visit as many POIs as possible when low level even if you just run through fast and not kill anything. Then come back later when tougher but still face a lower gamestaged Sleeper spawn set. Are there any plans to add a reset if left uncleared for X amount of days and not visited (thus making it so player would at least have to revisit to keep the same spawn set)? This week everyone has been doing the usual finishing and fixing. What I hinted about yesterday was...vehicle passengers is working. My more exciting changes: Fixed SDTD-8907 Zombie Screamers can see through walls (added sight to woodBlock Collide). Added AI scout grace period (2 secs) before it will scream and can't scream when stunned. Changed AI scout scream again delay (-2), spawn distance (80m) and spawn scout (+2%). Added AI ApproachSpot adds a path location if a scout. Increased path location duration to 4. Changed wandering hordes to start and end on a line 30-45m to the side of the targeted players. Added wandering hordes have 30% chance to skip for 12 hours if targeting a single player. Refactored vehicle save/net data to use common code and have multiple data categories. Refactored attachments so detach is separate and slot value is sent over network. Fixed vehicle passengers jittered in and out of seat and had old pos, so chunks did not load. Fixed vehicles moving to inaccurate positions for observers. Fixed remote vehicles could enable physics and passenger camera would only work then. Fixed SDTD-8495 Vehicles can be duped by placing and taking. Fixed vehicle could be taken while it had a driver. Replaced minibike horn part with vehicle hornSound property and added to all vehicles. w00t for the spoiler even though I'm mostly an SP guy. Nice on changing the start/end line for Wandering Hordes. Now it won't feel quite as much like those randoms are psychic or blood moonish. Nice on the 30% SP Wandering Horde change. I've been saying SP the number of Wandering Hordes that target a player is disproportionate to MP (where on the few times I played I sometimes went a 2 or 3 in-game days without seeing one depending on the activity level of the server tested). Question: adjustable via XML or game setting? and with that finally caught up on this thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf959 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 You can pickup vehicles, which places them as an item in your inventory, just like they were when you first created one. You can also drop them like a bag or put in a container for others. In the future, there may be a restriction on the larger vehicles being taken. Vehicles and guns no longer have a part list UI. You make then from parts and get a single item. The item now has mod slots shown in a UI similar to the old part UI. So, more on picking up vehicles and Restrictions: I suppose you guys have yet to discuss this extensively? I'm having a hard time imagining picking up any of these vehicles, putting them in my backpack, and feeling normal about it. Could they somehow take up more slots in a backpack? Be required to be on the action bar? automatically apply "encumbered" to your character? -> this seems like it wouldn't be terribly difficult to add. Also, do the vehicles keep their inventory when they're picked up? what stops us from making a bunch of bikes and carrying them around for an infinite bag size? And more on passengers: What can they do exactly? look around? get out independent of whether the car is moving? shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drithyl Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 There is, though: the fact that the plains and maple forest biomes were removed precisely for the sake of reducing terrain texture blending, which is apparently a big problem. Now Gazz confirms (while I was rushing to catch up and point this out) that was the impetus for changing clay. Except they already confirmed that the different biome soils will still retain their unique appearance, which is what Jax was doubting. Obviously clay patches are gone, that's not at all what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Factor Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Things that I can remember that are gone Running in buildings during the day. Smells. Hearing Drag and drop crafting system. Gore blocks All z’s attack at night like it was 7th day everynight. King of the Hill Jumping 2 blocks high Needing water in the gardens Craft spamming to level up Huge cave systems Spider web traps Spider webs in empty containers Big loot load at the completion of cutting tree or mining rock Flickering candle/torch light Old feral bullet sponges Radiation in game besides navesgame (one poi had it) Block terrain Z detection night or day from a mile away. GUI map GUI Z location and direction Usefulness of throwing rocks Punji style spike traps Zip lines Lock picking Big boss z’s (cannot remember what they were called) Bandits Framerates (lol) And the main one is The theme song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are many more than this. Some were good reasons and some were not so good reason that they were removed. Some were puzzling as to why they were removed. You forgot about 1 block ingress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Things that I can remember that are gone... Big loot load at the completion of cutting tree or mining rock I enjoyed this and liked the reward for sticking around and finishing the job. To this day, I forget I'm not going to get the jackpot on that last hit. I guess it left a strong impression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 You forgot about 1 block ingress... They will change it to 3 block ingress. 2 blocks will not be large enough to walk through now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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