Roland Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, bachgaman said: Has the A21 been moved to the next Christmas sale? Wow…even when TFP doesn’t release at the Christmas Sale it gets accused of releasing for Christmas Sales… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomofman Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I think it's basically this at this stage for us impatient folk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatical_Meat Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Laran Mithras said: Don't give them any ideas or we'll get "A21 and A22 have been cancelled in favor of A23 due out in 2027." It is time for the Pimps to announce *something* regarding A21. Don’t get me started on “When it’s done”. Something could be as easy as “Within X weeks and it may be buggy” Just something. We were all excited for this alpha Pimps need to manage disappointment better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fanatical_Meat said: It is time for the Pimps to announce *something* regarding A21. Don’t get me started on “When it’s done”. Something could be as easy as “Within X weeks and it may be buggy” Just something. We were all excited for this alpha Pimps need to manage disappointment better. True, but finally we again will get around the fire and agree that it is better to be done properly, instead full of bugs and insects. Lets say the Hype Train is getting upgraded and we need a new one, for more of us. Whats the worst that could happen, get a proper A21 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, beerfly said: True, but finally we again will get around the fire and agree that it is better to be done properly, instead full of bugs and insects. Lets say the Hype Train is getting upgraded and we need a new one, for more of us. Whats the worst that could happen, get a proper A21 ? "every member" of the team have families and we are ALL attending family needs thru this holiday season. you know.. like most of you are doing and most are probably off work as well. we are all human. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, unholyjoe said: "every member" of the team have families and we are ALL attending family needs thru this holiday season. you know.. like most of you are doing and most are probably off work as well. we are all human. Well said, sir, have a good times there guys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatical_Meat Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, unholyjoe said: "every member" of the team have families and we are ALL attending family needs thru this holiday season. you know.. like most of you are doing and most are probably off work as well. we are all human. Perfectly cool and healthy. constructive feedback is it would have been nice to have a notice like above and add Happy Holidays or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorbascrumps Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Fanatical_Meat said: Pimps need to manage disappointment better. I think you need to take your own advice. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, jorbascrumps said: I think you need to take your own advice. Lets don`t get noisy about latest posts. That`s when screamers spawn and a useless mess happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Well.... still 7dtd 21 will be faster that new valve game annoucement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatical_Meat Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, jorbascrumps said: I think you need to take your own advice. I’m not selling something here. If I were I’d gladly accept that feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphon583 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Fanatical_Meat said: Perfectly cool and healthy. constructive feedback is it would have been nice to have a notice like above and add Happy Holidays or similar. You needed someone to tell you they have families and that they celebrate during the holidays? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crow Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Matt115 said: Well.... still 7dtd 21 will be faster that new valve game annoucement Hmm.. 7DTD going gold or Half-Life 3? Which will come first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meilodasreh Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On behalf of TFP I hereby announce A21 will be released within X weeks and it may be buggy. Happy New Year to you all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatical_Meat Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Syphon583 said: You needed someone to tell you they have families and that they celebrate during the holidays? Did you read it? Apparently I was not clear so I will be now. The Pimps should have expressed regret for not making A21 by end of the year and given a brief insight as to when we can expect it before leaving for the holidays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laran Mithras Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 56 minutes ago, Fanatical_Meat said: The Pimps should have expressed regret for not making A21 by end of the year and given a brief insight as to when we can expect it before leaving for the holidays. Right. The possibility was floated of a release 2022. We logically assumed a Christmas release to take advantage of Steam Christmas bash. It will happen when it happens, but some kind of mention other than "looking like it's definitely not going to make it this year" might've been comforting. I figure it gives me more time on my current maps before having to restart every single one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomofman Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Would an end of year 'progress update' have been nice? Yes BUT TFP have pretty consistently shown (especially this dev cycle) that it's not a level of communication we're going to get so it shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone. Be thankful the few devs that post on the forums even bother I also think it's much better that the devs are currently focusing on their families and the holidays so they can come back to A21 fresh in 2023 rather than having them crunching over the holidays to meet to arbitrary deadline. Nobody needs to get burned out to give us an update for the game 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 They not going to give a brief insight when they think it will be done. They did that once and it back fired. So now you only get when it's done. Regardless how one feels about that statement it doesn't matter. That how they go about it, the way they want to go about it, the way the feel is the best because they can and don't have to any other way. Guess what it has worked for them. Only a small portion of the people that own the game visits this forum or even the steam forums. The way the go about it is up to them not us. They don't have to do anything. They don't have to post news about what is coming for every new alpha but at least we get that much. So again it doesn't matter how we think what they should and shouldn't do. They keep getting sales so whatever they are doing is working that is making them happy to keep doing what they do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstdv inc Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fanatical_Meat said: Did you read it? Apparently I was not clear so I will be now. The Pimps should have expressed regret for not making A21 by end of the year and given a brief insight as to when we can expect it before leaving for the holidays. No, they shouldn't. The fact that you constantly see news about the game throughout the year means that someone wants to do it.Developers could silently release a major patch with a patchnout once a year and go quiet until the next time.No screenshots, gifs, videos, developer streams, riddles with spoilers, road maps.No one should do that.But they do. Edited December 31, 2022 by mstdv inc (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Forgash Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I think it was mid-late October when I pretty much gave up on any experimental/streamer release this year.. and didn't see anything since that to sway my opinion. Disappointed? - Of course, we all love this game and can't wait to see what the next patch brings.. But bothered in any sense beyond that? Nah. It's pretty well ingrained into my brain- In the Pimps we trust. It's not just us that wanted to see something soon, its a business and I know it would be great for their numbers to have dropped experimental with the sales and get an influx of buyers. I bet a number of the devs are bummed too that they couldn't give us something fresh before the end of the year.. But Monday's another work day, they'll be getting back to it just like we do and it'll be done when it's done. ... Boy am I excited for the next teaser they drop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Old Crow said: Hmm.. 7DTD going gold or Half-Life 3? Which will come first? 7DTD probably 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum123456789 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I understand that backlash was an issue for them showing footage of the new alpha however I still miss Joel's small dev playthroughs it got to show you raw footage of the current alpha and how it plays out me personally didn't mind seeing things incomplete or buggy but I understand there is a small percentage of people who like to complain about the smallest things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zztong Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 20 hours ago, Fanatical_Meat said: It is time for the Pimps to announce *something* regarding A21. Heh, no it's not, but I do share your impatience. If somebody were to start a pool I'd pick a day in May. That's my current uninformed wild guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatical_Meat Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Personally I am shocked how many forum members actively down vote anything regarding communication or a timeline. I find it really strange. You all are free to have your own opinion. I feel it is time for the pimps to publish a timeline of what is expected to happen and when it’s expected to happen. Perfectly fine is deadlines change or are late, some sort of roadmap would be nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstdv inc Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fanatical_Meat said: Personally I am shocked how many forum members actively down vote anything regarding communication or a timeline. I find it really strange. You all are free to have your own opinion. I feel it is time for the pimps to publish a timeline of what is expected to happen and when it’s expected to happen. Perfectly fine is deadlines change or are late, some sort of roadmap would be nice to have. I don't mind another opinion.I am not against communication and new information about the development.I am against the fact that "TFP should" provide this information on demand.They can do it at will, when they deem it necessary.Demanding something is not right.You don't pay them a monthly salary.So you can only ask.It is important. Edited December 31, 2022 by mstdv inc (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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