Space Beans Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just started playing the game, was looting a house near my campfire and bedroll at around midday on Day 2 when a dire wolf ran through the front door, cornered me, and needless to say ripped me apart. Switched from the pregen to a new randomly generated save file, and day 2 during the night, a Dire Wolf spawned near my mine that i was digging overnight. Is this game taking the @%$#? what are the odds of this happening? And why does the screen randomly go from being light to super dark when moving around some houses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Dire wolfes can spawn at night even in freshly started games, night is dangerous. The dire wolf that attacked you around midday should not have happened except if you were in or near one of the more dangerous biomes like the snow or wasteland biome. Or less likely the dire wolf was a remnant of the previous night (it would have had to be near you for the whole morning otherwise it would have despawned). In the first few nights you should always have a safe location near you for events like this though many of the nights dangers you can outrun. Other games without a fully destructable and changeable world just let a designer tag any space with a flag whether it is indoors or not. A game like this with fully destructible world needs to find out by some heuristic if a space is inside or not. Since 7D2D needs all the CPU cycles it can get to support minimum spec PCs the heuristic needs to be very simple. The result is some wonky light changes, but mostly it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramethzer0 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 The first night is also meant to be particularly dangerous. 99% of the time I also experience first night ferals that tend to take the form of the harder zombies to kill, like the tourist. Survivin' aint easy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Yeah this is intended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Beans Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 Okay, i guess this was a good lesson to learn early in the game, I gotta be more careful and always be ready to fight a dire wolf to the death 😄 Though i was planning on trying to never die, i think im going to have to accept a few deaths here and there. i dont think i can beat a dire wolf wearing plant fibre clothes and a lv 1 wooden club. Not until i get gud anyway. And thanks for the info regarding the lighting, makes a lot of sense when you think about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Space Beans said: Okay, i guess this was a good lesson to learn early in the game, I gotta be more careful and always be ready to fight a dire wolf to the death 😄 Though i was planning on trying to never die, i think im going to have to accept a few deaths here and there. i dont think i can beat a dire wolf wearing plant fibre clothes and a lv 1 wooden club. Not until i get gud anyway. And thanks for the info regarding the lighting, makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Np. Yeah the world is dangerous Little tip if you're unprepared, you can run away from them especially at night if you have the stamina. Use trees/boulders to break line of sight and sneak away. Of course, spotting them before they aggro on you is the best way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) tid bit - dont make the mistake believing its completely safe during the day either, as far as lions and bears and dogs and wolves and coyotes and snakes and vultures and an occasional feral to boot. anything can happen in this game... just dont throw a bone at the bear (you have to give him a jar of honey) if that is not exciting enough, when you get a20 when time comes... turn on feral sense and make them jog or run or sprint at day. we dont need 1000s more zombies.. we just needed feral sense and its here (or will be). Edited July 22, 2021 by unholyjoe (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake_ Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 hours ago, meganoth said: Dire wolfes can spawn at night even in freshly started games, night is dangerous. The dire wolf that attacked you around midday should not have happened except if you were in or near one of the more dangerous biomes like the snow or wasteland biome. Or less likely the dire wolf was a remnant of the previous night (it would have had to be near you for the whole morning otherwise it would have despawned). In the first few nights you should always have a safe location near you for events like this though many of the nights dangers you can outrun. Other games without a fully destructable and changeable world just let a designer tag any space with a flag whether it is indoors or not. A game like this with fully destructible world needs to find out by some heuristic if a space is inside or not. Since 7D2D needs all the CPU cycles it can get to support minimum spec PCs the heuristic needs to be very simple. The result is some wonky light changes, but mostly it works. That is correct. If they spawn at day, then the player is close to a dangerous biome OR the dire wolfs are a remnant from the previous night. Normal wolfs, on the other hand, can spawn at day on day one. It's just that they are very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I won't count that death if you don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 But the game count it for you ! 😞 I did serveral hardcore run too. And i notice it is the best not to fight at the beginning. Wood spikes are you friend then, you can run backwards and place them before dog's and wolfs they chase you. They will slow down them on a hit, and at last dog's get killed pretty fast with the spikes, a dire wolf would need alot more. But the bad thing you don't get kill count/xp from spike kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Canute said: But the bad thing you don't get kill count/xp from spike kills. Tell that to the dead guy with a little more XP 😁. If you take the game serious then staying alive must be the top priority and anything else is just gravy. Yeah sure, somehow you still die sometimes and by some miracle are alive again. But you don't know why and you don't know if this will happen again next time. Next time could be the last. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukemDed Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 13 hours ago, unholyjoe said: ... lions and bears and dogs and wolves and coyotes and snakes and vultures and an occasional feral to boot. anything can happen in this game... hold on. bears, check dogs, check wolves, check coyotes, check snakes, check vultures, check lions?? did i miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuriles Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, NukemDed said: hold on. bears, check dogs, check wolves, check coyotes, check snakes, check vultures, check lions?? did i miss something? Mountain lions/Cougars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Blackbear Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Mountain lion, cougar, catamount. Poor things have had quite the identity crisis over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pack Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, NukemDed said: hold on. bears, check dogs, check wolves, check coyotes, check snakes, check vultures, check lions?? did i miss something? Murder, murder, mermaid, murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, NukemDed said: hold on. bears, check dogs, check wolves, check coyotes, check snakes, check vultures, check lions?? did i miss something? my mind said to put "mtn" in front of lion but my fingers didnt hear the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, unholyjoe said: my mind said to put "mtn" in front of lion but my fingers didnt hear the memo. If it makes you feel better, my mind automatically put mountain in front of lion when I was reading your post 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCabong Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) When you're just starting, the best thing to do is work on your base at night. Harvest lots of wood and those blue boxes are full of cobblestones too because you can upgrade wood to stone with them. It's not a good idea to go mining or harvesting anything at night at the beginning. I had two direwolf spawn on me during the day and I posted a rant about it. That rarely happens but it can. It only happened to me once. Edited July 24, 2021 by ElCabong (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidster Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Skuriles said: Mountain lions/Cougars The one on the left, not the one on the right. Lotta mileage out of this joke lately... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukemDed Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 i was a bit slow sorry. been a long week. but sometimes the insiders do let things slip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I work under the premise that if I am out after I hear the night sting/sfx to indicate you are in deep $h!t if you stay outside, I deserve what I get if I am not hidden or being fairly quite. That to me has always been part of what I like about this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Beans Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 UPDATE: No Wolves on Day 2. Start of Day 3 had one, but this time i had a small fortress surrounded by wood spikes and a bow and arrows. Fool me twice shame on you. Fool me 3 times, shame on me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I had a wolf on me within 30min of spawning in on an island I made in a lake on a custom heightmap. Even in such an isolated spot, they show up. lol. This is one reason I ALWAYS run around with 6 wood frames on me. I have saved myself 100's of time by climbing up something quickly using wood frames. VERY useful when you first start out and run into a bear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramethzer0 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, warmer said: This is one reason I ALWAYS run around with 6 wood frames on me. I have saved myself 100's of time by climbing up something quickly using wood frames. VERY useful when you first start out and run into a bear! Just 6? Damn dude. I can't live without at least 250+ in my first hotbar slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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