Hek Harris Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 If I go on the street and I want to sell lemonade, why would I change the recipe after a few months and add strawberries in it or whatever? My goal was to sell normal lemonade, not some combination of lemonade + other fruits, at least I could have told people about selling a combination from the very beginning or change the description of the "shop". Yeah ... TFP sold me lemonade, and I later discovered that it was a vintage cognac ... What a scam ! I went back to buy more "lemonade": now I have at least one thing valuable in my cellar (except my ex wife) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 What's a normal zombie? A definition would be nice, by someone with some authority on the matter. They are FICTIONAL. Watch George Romero's zombies and also the Walking Dead. They are undead, not infected people that feel pain and are smart. Since when does a zombie punches you? Since when zombies know how to avoid traps? It's totally bull...sh.it... They should be stupid as hell and with no special abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 In A18 can you out spike a bad horde? I mean, is it viable? I mean, would enough spikes allow you to sit back, relax and do nothing all horde night? For a while but the demolisher is hard on spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum123456789 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 been off the thread for like a week now and 16 mf's this is really good news keep on whoopin those mf bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezed Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 They should be stupid as hell and with no special abilities. Sounds fun. Hope we get a Solitare mini-game to play while the stupid zombies shuffle around outside my unlocked door where I'm perfectly safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Until "zombie" gets copyrighted everyone is free to make up any lore or variation for these imaginary beings. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Sounds fun. Hope we get a Solitare mini-game to play while the stupid zombies shuffle around outside my unlocked door where I'm perfectly safe. Are you a troll or you forgot your eye-glasses? I was talking about NORMAL ZOMBIES, not all the zombies in the game. Take the nurse for example, leave it stupid. If you want a challenge, then add unique zombies like the demolisher, behemoth, etc...but leave normal zombies stupid. It's hard to read, of course, since you only want to keep your opinion but with no solid arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doombringer101 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Until "zombie" gets copyrighted everyone is free to make up any lore or variation for these imaginary beings. /shrug This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hek Harris Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 If you want to know what exactly are zombies, just ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezed Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Are you a troll or you forgot your eye-glasses? I was talking about NORMAL ZOMBIES, not all the zombies in the game. Take the nurse for example, leave it stupid. If you want a challenge, then add unique zombies like the demolisher, behemoth, etc...but leave normal zombies stupid. It's hard to read, of course, since you only want to keep your opinion but with no solid arguments. Depends on how you define troll. An internet troll or a lore friendly under the bridge troll? What's a normal troll? Who makes the rules? Oh, and since you mention Romero and his imagining of the undead which are 'not smart'...go watch Day of the Dead again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Are you a troll or you forgot your eye-glasses? I was talking about NORMAL ZOMBIES, not all the zombies in the game. Take the nurse for example, leave it stupid. If you want a challenge, then add unique zombies like the demolisher, behemoth, etc...but leave normal zombies stupid. It's hard to read, of course, since you only want to keep your opinion but with no solid arguments. If you want to know what exactly are zombies, just ask them. You can make fun of this all you want, the game is becoming less and less pleasing for many people (look at my reply with Games4kickz's youtube video link and see for yourself that I'm not the only one...you got himself saying that zombies should not be smart and horde nights are ♥♥♥♥..if you want challenge, add unique zombies, but don't make normal zombies smart as hell...and I was of the same opinion before I saw his video....and also the people in the video's comments started to say that too). If you think I get offended you're wrong, but this game is 0% zombie like, whether you want to admit it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 You mentioned if you find a turret AND if it is working? Are there weapons that are so broken that repair kits don't work and they are only good for their parts? Turret seems to have a bug at the moment. You have a right to agree or disagree with me, and before you bash me because of this criticism, you should know that I have the right to open my mouth and say my opinion, and I am in no way "butthurt". This is not an attack to TFP, just constructive criticism, treat it like that. Yeah, ok, lets agree to disagree. About Zombie lore, everyone seems to know exactly how it should be, but it isn't that easy: The original zombie lore is that zombies were raised by (voodoo) magic and could be controlled by their conjurer. They don't hunger for brains and are quite boring fellows. So how about not calling Romero's Zombies Zombies, because they aren't. A fact I learned when reading the Wikipedia page for zombie: The name "Zombie" for Romero's Living Dead probably came up because of fans, not Romero himself, he called them "ghouls" and only later took up the term zombie. The lore he bases his Living Dead on was a book in which the Dead where more like a variant of vampires. So Eliphas, hwo about this: Lets not call the enemies in 7D2D "ghouls" nor "vampires" and everyone, even Romero, will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhaaltazar Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 For a while but the demolisher is hard on spikes. Thats nice with demolisher edition to the mix, but in A17 something that i resented the most was zombies were running in a straight!! conga line - that really killed the zombie feel. Are now zombies moving more alike to those we had in A16 or still the same as A17? I really hope zombies will get some randomness of movement back, brainless wandering alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 For a while but the demolisher is hard on spikes. What is the minimum GS that a Demolisher could show up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Turret seems to have a bug at the moment. Yeah, ok, lets agree to disagree. About Zombie lore, everyone seems to know exactly how it should be, but it isn't that easy: The original zombie lore is that zombies were raised by (voodoo) magic and could be controlled by their conjurer. They don't hunger for brains and are quite boring fellows. So how about not calling Romero's Zombies Zombies, because they aren't. A fact I learned when reading the Wikipedia page for zombie: The name "Zombie" for Romero's Living Dead probably came up because of fans, not Romero himself, he called them "ghouls" and only later took up the term zombie. The lore he bases his Living Dead on was a book in which the Dead where more like a variant of vampires. So Eliphas, hwo about this: Lets not call the enemies in 7D2D "ghouls" nor "vampires" and everyone, even Romero, will be happy This is pretty much the only answer that was straight-on and with good arguments. Thank you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Turret seems to have a bug at the moment. Yeah, ok, lets agree to disagree. About Zombie lore, everyone seems to know exactly how it should be, but it isn't that easy: The original zombie lore is that zombies were raised by (voodoo) magic and could be controlled by their conjurer. They don't hunger for brains and are quite boring fellows. So how about not calling Romero's Zombies Zombies, because they aren't. A fact I learned when reading the Wikipedia page for zombie: The name "Zombie" for Romero's Living Dead probably came up because of fans, not Romero himself, he called them "ghouls" and only later took up the term zombie. The lore he bases his Living Dead on was a book in which the Dead where more like a variant of vampires. So Eliphas, hwo about this: Lets not call the enemies in 7D2D "ghouls" nor "vampires" and everyone, even Romero, will be happy But you forget games4kickz's says it isn't so, so it must not be so because he is smart and what he says must all be facts and true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prisma501 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Z-Nation anyone? All there. Radiated zeds, smart zeds, viagra zeds, adhd zeds (the fast ones). TFP decide what zombie lore the game has. There is no norm to hold it against. Useless to name some old movies lore and say thats the definition of a zed. Its not. All cool to /critisize/ it, but TFP have allready stated that they make up the lore and are not changing this. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 But you forget games4kickz's says it isn't so, so it must not be so because he is smart and what he says must all be facts and true I didn't say that I agree with everything Games4kickz says, you forgot I wrote that I was of the same opinion that zombies should be stupid as hell even before the video, so please go back to the first grade and learn how to read. You're just embarrassing yourself. You take my words out of the context. I was saying I'm not the only one that is of this opinion and also not all smart players want smart zombies(like one guy that replied to me said), so go back to sleep, it's late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I didn't say that I agree with everything Games4kickz said, you forgot I wrote that I was of the same opinion that zombies should be stupid as hell even before the video, so please go back to the first grade and learn how to read. Lol I read it all thanks. Just pushing some buttons to be honest and seems it worked But it is your opinion that they shouldn't be smart and only a opinion. Because of your opinion the game shouldn't have zombies written on anything according to you because none of them are dumb to what you call a zombie should be. Last I checked I didn't know zombies are real to know how exactly how they should be and anything about them is basically what you want them to be. So will have yo disagree with your opinion and agree to disagree on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Lol I read it all thanks. Just pushing some buttons to be honest and seems it worked But it is your opinion that they shouldn't be smart and only a opinion. Because of your opinion the game shouldn't have zombies written on anything according to you because none of them are dumb to what you call a zombie should be. Last I checked I didn't know zombies are real to know how exactly how they should be and anything about them is basically what you want them to be. So will have yo disagree with your opinion and agree to disagree on the matter. Neither Darth Vader is real, but just because he isn't real, that doesn't mean I can paint his armor pink and put it in the game and call it "Vader". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Neither Darth Vader is real, but just because he isn't real, that doesn't mean I can paint his armor pink and put it in the game and call it "Vader". Think you just missing the point. I didn't know we had rules on how zombies should be. Isn't it all just opinions? But you are the smart one what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Think you just missing the point. I didn't know we had rules on how zombies should be. Isn't it all just opinions? But you are the smart one what do I know. Listen, the only one that gave me a concrete answer was meganoth, with real solid arguments that zombies were first part of the "voodoo" thing and he convinced me, I forgot about that. As far as I know, he is the only one that gave me a good argument with proofs unlike you or other players that keep saying "we don't have rules for zombies, so they can be smart or stupid, slow or fast, etc...". I think you missed the point. You got no proofs, then keep replying without proofs...I won't take you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum123456789 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 c'mon theres no need to have an argument about what zombie are lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Listen, the only one that gave me a concrete answer was meganoth, with real solid arguments that zombies were first part of the "voodoo" thing and he convinced me, I forgot about that. As far as I know, he is the only one that gave me a good argument with proofs unlike you or other players that keep saying "we don't have rules for zombies, so they can be smart or stupid, slow or fast, etc...". I think you missed the point. You got no proofs, then keep saying replying without proofs...I won't take you seriously. Lol I never asked for proof but if you wanna bring it up where is your proof? I mean how are we to take you seriously as well? It goes both ways. The movie warm bodies was described as a zombie movie but they ended up being smart. But guess they shouldn't of called that a zombie movie huh? Like I no rules have been set on how zombies should be. It is all opinion based. The zombies is in the game and written on it. I think it is more up to you to show valid reasons for it to not be besides a opinion. So guess until you do we can't take you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas the Inheritor Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 c'mon theres no need to have an argument about what zombie are lol For people like me that grew up with zombies that are stupid, living dead, slow and they overwhelm you with extremely big numbers, then yes, you can have an argument about what zombies are when you see a movie that depicts zombies as living infected people that are sprinting and are smart. My first zombie "movie" was the Walking Dead which you know how it depicts zombies...and I also remember playing zombie games where zombies were slow, stupid, undead and came in big numbers, so yes, for me the need for a proof and a good argument was real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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