madmole Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 +1 I like the alternatives to hacking away at them since not everyone needs mining perks now. /FBIOPENUP I just bought 1000 concrete mix, ♥♥♥♥ mining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Map out progression rewards for achieving internal goals, how much stonecrafting XP is there to get, plot an S-curve, doing stonecrafting tasks moves you along the X axis and resulting skill bennies on the Y. Pass the big-payoff part of the curve you hit diminishing returns, your 50th stone tool of any sort gets you not very much because there's not much more stonecrafting XP left to get. How much normal-zed/feral-zed/rad-zed POI-clearing XP is there to get? S-curve progression. Probably getting too cute with it, your progression could be multidimensional, so you have a club curve and a shovel curve and a stone curve and an iron curve -- you could even get _really_ ♥♥♥♥ing cute and factor the party use progression into the crafting skill, so if nobody in your party ever uses a bow that's near your currrent competence level you can make all the bows you want, but you'll never get better because you've got no clue what works. Yup someone else can design that can of worms, TFP is very happy with the current progression system in A18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 UFC 1 allowed nearly anything, but biting I think. Guys were getting head stomped, kneed on the ground, balls punched 50 times, etc it was crazy. I remember pride (I think) was pretty brutal... Loved it. As long as they're a willing participant, fuggit. Royce ruined the entertainment imo by introducing a superior way of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranth Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 To watch OTHERS play the game to drive hype for more sales. WOOHOO so excited....j/k I'm not, kids want to watch people play games. If it is ready for STREAMERS it is ready for the masses to play on experimental. It HAS to be a Monday release for the masses because thousands of people will be playing the game and almost assuredly find bugs, and they need the full crew working hotfixes if necessary. So it is either a few streamers get it Friday and build hype and we get it Monday, or no one gets it Friday and we all get it Monday regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadPlayer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I just bought 1000 concrete mix, ♥♥♥♥ mining. Will there be a video tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Any good dev would try the mods that are out there for their own game, if for anything to see what improvements could be made. But you choose to insult the people who have been fixing your game for you for years and giving it the replay ability you are only just touching on in 18. (Fataal’s played RH, whats your excuse MM?) Also fyi I’m not one of the “2 fans” that play RH, too micro managey for my taste. But Jax beat you to random rage zombies, so good luck convincing me you didn’t steal it from his mod. I've never played any 7dtd mods. Seen some pictures. Ideals are a dime a dozen. I don't find looking at other games/mods/whatever all that useful, because I already have 10x more ideas than I could do in my lifetime. Looking around for more, so I can make that 20x is kind of depressing. Occasionally you will find a cool idea, but usually you can't run off and do it anyway do to limitations of life, so toss it on a list and maybe someday. Raging is something I tossed in, because it made sense when I was working on some AI code, so sure. Genius? Hardly. A thousand other game devs would of come up with the same thing doing my job. Execution is king. So many ideas fall on their face do to poor execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadPlayer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I've never played any 7dtd mods. Seen some pictures. Ideals are a dime a dozen. I don't find looking at other games/mods/whatever all that useful, because I already have 10x more ideas than I could do in my lifetime. Looking around for more, so I can make that 20x is kind of depressing. Occasionally you will find a cool idea, but usually you can't run off and do it anyway do to limitations of life, so toss it on a list and maybe someday. Raging is something I tossed in, because it made sense when I was working on some AI code, so sure. Genius? Hardly. A thousand other games devs would of come up with the same thing doing my job. Execution is king. So many ideas fall on their face do to poor execution. Do you foresee any issues with custom prefabs built with the A17.4 editor going into A18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 It HAS to be a Monday release for the masses because thousands of people will be playing the game and almost assuredly find bugs, and they need the full crew working hotfixes if necessary. So it is either a few streamers get it Friday and build hype and we get it Monday, or no one gets it Friday and we all get it Monday regardless yeah i kinda hyped my self up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odetta Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 UFC 1 allowed nearly anything, but biting I think. Guys were getting head stomped, kneed on the ground, balls punched 50 times, etc it was crazy. Sounds like a nice evening with my lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranth Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 yeah i kinda hyped my self up Haha it's hard not to get hyped when you see all the stuff they're adding or changing, like imo making looting great again. Also I believed the encounter system was in A18 but it's not? Don't know where my brain got that from, must have crossed some wires going through all the forum posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Haha it's hard not to get hyped when you see all the stuff they're adding or changing, like imo making looting great again. Also I believed the encounter system was in A18 but it's not? Don't know where my brain got that from, must have crossed some wires going through all the forum posts yeah im just so hyped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orclover Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Oct 7th? Hope we don't have too many hot fixes that require restarting after the first few days, always get comfy after day 4. Soon....ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I actually approached Faatal and wanted a dead rising type lunge animation (we have some laying around) hooked up, and he thought of the rage idea because it was easy and I said sure lets try it, and it came out great. I can barely remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 To any of the developers: Are there any surprises included we don't know about you'll be springing on use this weekend? Everdeen....Everdeen....sorry....one last jab at roland before A18 is here....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Oct 7th? Hope we don't have too many hot fixes that require restarting after the first few days, always get comfy after day 4. Soon....ish. oct 7th........... 7 days to die!?????.............horde night?????????????????? ik im not funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I've never played any 7dtd mods. Seen some pictures. Ideals are a dime a dozen. I don't find looking at other games/mods/whatever all that useful, because I already have 10x more ideas than I could do in my lifetime. Looking around for more, so I can make that 20x is kind of depressing. Occasionally you will find a cool idea, but usually you can't run off and do it anyway do to limitations of life, so toss it on a list and maybe someday. Raging is something I tossed in, because it made sense when I was working on some AI code, so sure. Genius? Hardly. A thousand other game devs would of come up with the same thing doing my job. Execution is king. So many ideas fall on their face do to poor execution. As always, it's a delight to read your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 but ideas are a dime a dozen and freely available in 1000's of games, movies books, real life, etc. Thinking alike. And no I didn't steal that from MM. Probably my dad or grand mom or kindergarten teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @Madmole By the way, I put a lot more thought in to one of our conversations we had. I said I would get back to you if I ever come up with a good counter arguement. Well after hours of sitting here looking at your response, realism trumps fun, for hours and giving it a lot of thought. I have finally come up with one. Although I would not consider it a counter arguement instead, more of a description of that which is to come. This understanding will result in your original assertion, which still holds strong and hole proof, no longer being relevant. This opens the imagination up to think of all the untapped possibilities. I don't want to state it publically because.. ...possibility of profit, truth be told... If you ever end up having 5 minutes free one day hit me up, I'm interested in hearing what you think of my rebuttal. The scenario and discription I finally came up with I think will impress you, that is unless you have a counter arguement that pokes holes in it again lol. If thats the case then I would only need 2 minutes of your time lol. Private Message: https://7daystodie.com/forums/member.php?160813-ZombieSurvivor Discord: ..ZombieSurvivor..#1423 MM, dont get into the white van!!!! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannedSmeef Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @madmole, you guys should probably make zombies play a special noise when they become enraged as a telegraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I can barely remember that. Wait, there are lunge animations planned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranth Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @madmole, you guys should probably make zombies play a special noise when they become enraged as a telegraph Yeah, maybe they should let out a more ferocious noise when they become enraged? Could already be in the game for all I know though - - - Updated - - - Wait, there are lounge animations planned? Yeah man, zombies need to relax after a long hard day of eating people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @FAATAL how to you do it the coding for the AI, is it hard or easy? and how do you feel about the AI? I dunno why I got a weird paparazzi vibe from your post....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 will the random encounter feature in A18 activate even if i stay at my base? sometimes i dont feel like going to the next big town to loot 3 houses and then be forced to come back cause lack of space (i know we have the 4x4 but motorbike is more versatile) but i would love it if those ♥♥♥♥ers and their moms come and challenge me big time now and then Wandering hordes now are a random encounter and they come near you. It would be that with a bunch of other modes. I would like to do mini blood moons. Like a 2 hour warning and 1 hour worth of zombies swarms to you, similar to how STALKER's PSI-emission warning gives you that oh crap moment. Edit: We are talking for A19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Minion Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Where are the PVP STREAMERS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Survager Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 You forgot step 3: Return to step 1. MM, some ideas may be not in time, so repeat suggestions sometimes very advisable, you don't think so? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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