Crater Creator Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I searched and didn't see this mentioned anywhere. I know many have discussed Living Off the Land and other changes to food in A20, but I wanted to focus on one lasting oddity in particular. Corn on the Cob Cornbread ingredients ingredients 1 ear of corn 1 cornmeal 1 boiled water 1 boiled water effects effects +10 food +10 food +5 health +5 health -5 water -5 water +10 max stamina +10 max stamina And to craft 1 cornmeal requires 1 ear of corn. Therefore, the only difference between these two items, as foods, is that cornbread requires an extra step. It's also counterintuitive to me that these two would have the same effect on hydration (-5 water). Maybe cornbread should be merged with cornmeal (or more accurately corn flour, given the recipes where it's used). Then the distinction is clearer: if you want to turn raw corn into a 'good' food to eat by itself, make corn on the cob. If you want to turn it into a refined crafting ingredient, make cornmeal. This would eliminate the extra step for tuna fish gravy on toast and chili dogs, which currently you actually have to cook once to make the cornbread and then re-cook to make the finished product. If you want something more in the style of down-home fresh baked comfort food, you can still make blueberry pie or pumpkin bread with the cornmeal. As is, cornbread's role in gameplay is extraneous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 You could also just remove CotC? Not that I would really suggest such. I'm more triggered by the fact that a single corn is now worth the same as 5 meat as a basic food item. Not that meat is hard to come by, it tends to find itself to me just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthjake Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Maybe for when you find cornmeal as a loot item, instead of corn? I've had that happen plenty of times, but seriously anything that requires water should not decrease hydration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemfire Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Darthjake said: Maybe for when you find cornmeal as a loot item, instead of corn? I've had that happen plenty of times, but seriously anything that requires water should not decrease hydration. Go nosh some corn bread without anything to drink irl some time and enjoy the dry mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Darthjake said: Maybe for when you find cornmeal as a loot item, instead of corn? I've had that happen plenty of times, but seriously anything that requires water should not decrease hydration. Coffee, pop, alcohol, fruit drinks…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, hiemfire said: Go nosh some corn bread without anything to drink irl some time and enjoy the dry mouth. Sure, sure. But my stipulation was more that cornbread is intuitively drier than corn on the cob. The stats shouldn’t be the same… and yet, cornbread takes more effort to make, so it shouldn’t be worse than corn on the cob, either. So forget cornbread. You just use cornmeal wherever you’d use cornbread now. Cornmeal’s stats would be somewhere between where it is now and cornbread’s stats, with its crafting time adjusted if necessary. I think all would agree that eating cornmeal with no water would be dehydrating. Then, for corn on the cob, make its stats match boiled meat instead of charred meat, since boiling is how you’re cooking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I would think corn on the cob doesn’t dehydrate a person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pack Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 i think a content compromise would be the corn on the cob should be +5 water.. makes sense cornmeal would be -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohskrad Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Could compromise and have it where one gives the jar back and the other depletes it. Maybe make the cornbread allow you to keep the jar, as a reward for the extra step(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whorhay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 18 hours ago, hiemfire said: Go nosh some corn bread without anything to drink irl some time and enjoy the dry mouth. Sounds like some nasty dried out cornbread to me. Good cornbread shouldn't be any drier then sandwich bread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Not all cornbread is created equal. There are very moist recipes of cornbread as well as very dry ones. I greatly prefer the moist recipes, personally (the ones with actual corn in them are some of the best). Clearly this game only allows you to make one of the dryer variants. Cornbread should provide a greater nutrient value than corn on the cob. Corn on the cob should not have a negative water value. Hydrated corn actually has a reasonably high water content. Eating dry corn is a good way to choke and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiemfire Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Whorhay said: Sounds like some nasty dried out cornbread to me. Good cornbread shouldn't be any drier then sandwich bread. Same applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktoriusiii Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Crater Creator said: Cornmeal’s stats would be somewhere between where it is now and cornbread’s stats, with its crafting time adjusted if necessary. How about corn on the cob doesn'T need water? And no cooking pot? Honestly the last time I was camping you just pierce a stick through it and hold it over the fire. So +10 food, +5 health -5 water cornbread needs a cooking pot, water and gives +10 food, +10 health, -5 water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostlight Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Cornbread is used as an ingredient for other recipes (like Chilli Dog) and is not for eating unless you're desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthjake Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 1:26 AM, hiemfire said: Go nosh some corn bread without anything to drink irl some time and enjoy the dry mouth. You keep eating your crappy box cornbread, and I'll keep making homemade fluffy cornbread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Apparently, cornbread is some seriously divisive stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weazelsun Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Perhaps, the corn on the cob should instead have jar of water as the crafting ingredient and fulfill thirst meter. While the cornbread can keep the thirst penalty but be more nutritious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Maharin said: Apparently, cornbread is some seriously divisive stuff. Waiting for it to turn into #cornbreadgate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagas Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I keep cornbread on had for making certain food items, like Cony dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Maharin said: Apparently, cornbread is some seriously divisive stuff. I think not! THE HORRORS OF CORN BREAD -Arch Necromancer Morloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Oh, wait....I thought you said "diverse" 😬 -Arch Necromancer Morloc 💀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hameshy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Maybe make Cornmeal an ingredient where the bread is required and a "emergency food" (+10 food/-10 water/no health). Cooked Cornmeal (Polenta) in a common food here in Brazil and could take the Corn Bread place to no copy Corn in the Cob value. Cooked Cornmeal (2 meal/1water - 15 food/10 water/10 health/10 stam) Edited January 24, 2022 by Hameshy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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