madmole Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 With the Attribute system designed around play styles. Will we see specialized traps for each play style to help with the BM instead of all of them in Intelligence? I would like to see improved traps specifically designed around each attribute. An example would be for the Perception build having advanced wire obstacles "triple standard concertina" to slow zombies down for those head shots. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 That makes sense if you're making Q5 the new end game item and if you're really lucky you find a Q6. I was hoping though, you'd keep Q6 craftable and add a Q7 for legendary items. Re-purposing Q6 as legendary is a little underwhelming, unless you're planning on beefing them up at a later date. Higher stats, an extra mod slot and an extra effect is underwhelming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 It's well deserved. It must be quite satisfying, especially after some hiccups with A17, that A18 is going along so well. This game is getting awfully addictive! Yeah a couple months ago I just had this ♥♥♥♥ eating grin playing it and thinking to myself, wow, I'm literally having a blast with this. It was hard to wait to release it to have that soft landing, because I wanted redemption from 17 so bad, but its good it finally is here and has been so well recieved. Hard work pays off. We're in a good spot now and I think most players will like our update rate and how we finish the game from here forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 To your last point I have been here for a long while as a lot of others have as well, and we watched the goalposts get moved on end game content several times. By the teams own admission they are targeting 20 hour players so my assessment is not that far off for whats expected for a casual player. They are going to want new players to experience bandits so those surely wont be held off past a certain point from appearing in game. I can only comment on what is in game currently. Not what we think it will look like in the future because we had that vision once and look how drastically things have changed from A13 to now. Long term goals but in game has been so significantly shortened it is very hard to envision a world where this game is designed to last past day 100. As a matter of fact its been said numerous times that its not entirely designed for that, just that extended play is an option. true, I can see that. I try and see things as they might be but you are right if judging the game from what is in it now. I like to give TFP the benifit of the doubt you know, but I do see where you are coming from and I do agree. I've been here a while as well, only active for the past couple months though and yes I have seen the goal post moved further and further back as well, no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Bandits taking all your ♥♥♥♥, A19 confirmed!!!! 😅 Can you imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 If someone could inform me of the process of enabling one's avatar, that would be appreciated. (: If it requires the linking of a Steam account, then that will be tricky; I created an account on these forums years ago but have since lost the password and the email affiliated with it, and when I tried to link my Steam account, that old, dead account was the only result it could find. :/ YES please get an avatar you have no idea how many times i have confused the two of you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxTeller718 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 true, I can see that. I try and see things as they might be but you are right if judging the game from what is in it now. I like to give TFP the benifit of the doubt you know, but I do see where you are coming from and I do agree. I've been here a while as well, only active for the past couple months though and yes I have seen the goal post moved further and further back as well, no doubt about that. And before MM reads all that stuff from before and gets mad at me, again I am enjoying 18. Im merely commenting and pointing out the idea of end game. Im sure we all have different ideas of what that is. I have been hearing bandit talk for 3 years now, seen them in game at one poit for a brief time before they were commented out. You can sort of get them working if you really wanted to but i know that isnt their goal for what they want them to be. Im one of those guys who will never forget the times i had in 12, 13, 15 and 16. And i know MM hates looking back at that and reminiscing, but it really was enjoyable for a lot of us. I can only imagine what a mix of Alpha 18 and Alpha 15 would have looked like. Which is why I mentioned goal posts. We though for sure we were headed to end game/gold when 16 was released. Bandits were so close. It just needed polish. Then 17 changed it all, and 18 did so again as well. For the better. But yeah, I WANT to be excited for end game, but I also realize we have been this close before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yeah I was talking to Gazz saying hey we need some kind of block of wood that burns for 10 or 20 minutes exactly so I don't have to click 5000 pieces of wood in the forge and he's like oh you mean like a log? I crafted one and love them. I didn't even think about it, but now I keep a stack of 10 logs in my workstations for easy math wood, plus it feels right throwing a log in the fire. Oo thanks for the tip!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yeah we're going to look at that. Thanks. All I want is to world to look pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkenhoff Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 true, I can see that. I try and see things as they might be but you are right if judging the game from what is in it now. I like to give TFP the benifit of the doubt you know, but I do see where you are coming from and I do agree. I've been here a while as well, only active for the past couple months though and yes I have seen the goal post moved further and further back as well, no doubt about that. What goal posts? It's always: When it's done. People were already mad about getting Bandits into the game back in A14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I want to test the waters with vehicle break downs in the future and see how people react to being stranded in the wasteland at night, and give some weight to the grease monkey perk. Imagine like the lock picking minigame but with repair. If people like it, we could consider weapons jamming, and the same minigame to fix it. It could happen frequently on brown and rare on pink. If it takes 20 seconds like the lock picking it will be annoying as hell. What might make it feel good is make it last only 5 seconds while playing a animation of the player unjamming the gun somehow. I've seen other games where refiring the gun clears the jam so the net outcome is just a delay in firing the gun which is generally not overly punishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 What goal posts? It's always: When it's done. People were already mad about getting Bandits into the game back in A14. If you cannot see the goal post nothing i say will get you to see it. I'm not hating if thats your impression. I love this game and have always supported it since i started playing which is around A8, through word of mouth, my wallet, time spent testing and reporting bugs all the way to helping as many people within the community as possible when they have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkenhoff Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I want to test the waters with vehicle break downs in the future and see how people react to being stranded in the wasteland at night, and give some weight to the grease monkey perk. Imagine like the lock picking minigame but with repair. If people like it, we could consider weapons jamming, and the same minigame to fix it. It could happen frequently on brown and rare on pink. No big deal since we all have at least rare guns on day 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I enjoy the early survival game the most and not being much of a builder/miner I do get bored later on when I have stacks of supplies, it's not really about the game getting harder. I like harsher conditions and I've tweaked the gameplay so radiated show up in the first week. It feels more survival based if there are things that make u feel 'oh sh** I need to turn back now!' Like a radiated biker on day 3 XD 25% loot drop helps but its only delays being stocked up again, not sure ppl will enjoy being underpowered and having to scrounge for bits of food even on day 100 but that would be an awesome game for me and keep me playing long term to see how long I could survive. Since later stages of the game currently focus on "Industrializing" your ammo production and fort defense, I can see why you are not interested in that. So, back to game options, maybe "Tower Defense" should be only one of several options a player has at game start. Maybe even if there is a Game Stage at all should be an option. For you, removal of those setting but having a high difficultly starting setting would be your perfect game. A "True Survival" setting is what you seem to be wanting. (and Roland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicalLens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 YES please get an avatar you have no idea how many times i have confused the two of you lol. I don't know how to publicly enable my avatar though! Lol (*Wink wink* Instructions please? *Nudge nudge*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I don't know how to publicly enable my avatar though! Lol (*Wink wink* Instructions please? *Nudge nudge*) I wish i remember lol...sorry. This is the first forum I've ever actually really been a part of so I'm still new to all this. Honestly don't remember how I got the avatar to work lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicalLens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I wish i remember lol...sorry. This is the first forum I've ever actually really been a part of so I'm still new to all this. Honestly don't remember how I got the avatar to work lol Lol It's fine, I'll figure it out sometime. (: In the meanwhile, I've got to record the day 56 horde. And there may be audio in this one. (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake_ Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Higher stats, an extra mod slot and an extra effect is underwhelming? Probably? I mean it does the exact same as the ranks before which is just meh for a legendary if you ask me. Now a deep blackish purple mixed with a cool name and extra static stat boosting "enchantments" (which is like a beefed up extra random system ) would have it all: both Diablo new color joyful feeling and the gameplay feeling of endless variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I didn't even know you could craft those little safes. Confirmed: little safes are loot only for A19... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Probably? I mean it does the exact same as the ranks before which is just meh for a legendary if you ask me. Now a deep blackish purple mixed with a cool name and extra static stat boosting "enchantments" (which is like a beefed up extra random system ) would have it all: both Diablo new color joyful feeling and the gameplay feeling of endless variety. I can see that. Legendary items should be extremely rare, are an order of magnitude stronger... BUT, they all have a cost to the player! As the world seems magical, some weapons drain player health, some could cause various debufs. Edit: But balanced Weapons/Armor is the thing in good games, maybe not in a good book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 If you cannot see the goal post nothing i say will get you to see it. I'm not hating if thats your impression. I love this game and have always supported it since i started playing which is around A8, through word of mouth, my wallet, time spent testing and reporting bugs all the way to helping as many people within the community as possible when they have issues. We have to be able to see goal posts? Well...uh....I certainly see them. There they are right there. Big old visible goal posts. Yep. Anyone that can’t see those bad boys....I mean why do they come here if they can’t see them...heh...heh... Ooh...and a volleyball net. Nice..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I can see that. Legendary items should be extremely rare, are an order of magnitude stronger... BUT, they all have a cost to the player! As the world seems magical, some weapons drain player health, some could cause various debufs. Edit: But balanced Weapons/Armor is the thing in good games, maybe not in a good book. Edit2: I have it! Each Legendary weapon takes a portion of your health for as long as it's equipped! This way a player can only have a few items equipped before they are at risked of being "one shot" by zombies/NPC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 ha!! Roland?? Snowdog?? Oh.....er..... Easy math log: y=log(x) +1 And Hey Snowdog, is that a log in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicalLens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Horde night 56 (with commentary) has just finished recording. Time to upload... (Time: 2 hours.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVegaNL Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Playing single player or on a server? I'm having some noteworthy lag when I'm changing tools on my hotbar in my single-player game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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