Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

[AtomicUs5000]

Krabby Patty Recipe:

<recipe name="foodKrabbyPattyr" count="1" craft_area="campfire" craft_tool="toolCookingGrill" tags="learnable">

 

The Krabby Patty formula is the sole property of the Krusty Krab and may only be discussed in part or in whole with it's creator Mr. Krabs. Duplication of this formula is punishable by law. Restrictions apply, results may vary.

 

</recipe>

[faatal]

Could you make Zeds "ragdoll" once they hit the ground? Just to not see them fall from 10 meters and land on their feet like gravity is a joke to them.

 

I've had that on my todo list from like a year ago. Since you reminded me, I gave it a shot and also fixed falling damage that was broken from some A18 changes.

 

A18:

Added zombies can ragdoll when falling more than 2m (spiders immune, ferals cap at 70%).

[n2n1]

Did you try to blend all of the textures on a single terrain shader?

 

It's not the textures that are the problem, it's the way shader code is written. This is fundamental to shaders and completely unavoidable.

You mean the weird texture mixing artifacts from the previous Alphas?

This situation can be avoided.

And the variety of textures does not affect it. (I said variety , not quantity.)

Even so... is that a reason to stay with a couple biomes?

 

In addition, the terrain-textures in the pack - are not four, but they don't all mix at the same time.

[AtomicUs5000]

I've had that on my todo list from like a year ago. Since you reminded me, I gave it a shot and also fixed falling damage that was broken from some A18 changes.

 

A18:

Added zombies can ragdoll when falling more than 2m (spiders immune, ferals cap at 70%).

 

Can you make the cop, tourist, and big mama bounce a few times?

[n2n1]

Once we get the adjustable sub biome size we'll have at least 988773324 new biomes coming.

The old shader had limits of only 3 adjacent textures too, otherwise blending disaster. The new shader will be much better.

So you'll solve all the problems, give a bunch of opportunities, but vanilla left with a couple biomes? It you to us, the modders, are doing everything? Thanks a lot!

[The Gronk]

You mean the weird texture mixing artifacts from the previous Alphas?

This situation can be avoided.

And the variety of textures does not affect it. (I said variety , not quantity.)

Even so... is that a reason to stay with a couple biomes?

 

In addition, the terrain-textures in the pack - are not four, how then do they all mix at once?

 

Okay, I was trying to avoid a technical explanation but here we go...

 

Textures are mixed in a shader during what is called a "pass". Each pass can mix up to four textures, any more than that and you need another pass to mix the next four textures. Still have some textures left? They must all have a pass, four at a time, until they've all been calculated. Don't think you can get away with having a hundred textures but only showing five or six at a time. Each texture must be calculated to see if it has to be shown.

 

Each pass is essentially running the same shader code again and this has severe performance impacts when you have a hundred terrain tiles each running several passes of the shader. This is done every frame for every pixel on the screen. That's literal. The shader code is run separately for each and every pixel. It doesn't take much to make a cripplingly slow shader.

 

The only good thing to come out of this is that because shader code is heavy on computer resources the code itself is often very short.

[n2n1]

Okay, I was trying to avoid a technical explanation but here we go...

but this is exactly what you should not do... Thank you for clarification - it can give understanding not only to me!

 

 

but still the same question:

- the textures in the pack for about 30. They don't mix all at the same time.

You should strive that would at the same time on earth mingled only 4, right? But these four can be chosen from a set that contains 30 or 3000 - no difference. Or not?

 

So it has nothing to do with the number of biomes and the variety of textures.

[Thecolours]

 

Check out the spiked knuckles:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7SltOmWwAESxPU?format=jpg&name=large

 

I kinda wish they were a bit more beefier looking. Just looking at them it doesn't feel like you're ready to first fight with a zombie horde.

[AtomicUs5000]

You know what really limits recipe ideas is the lack of wheat and dairy. Just those two things makes endless possibilities.

I suppose cornmeal is good enough for flour if using your imagination... but dairy would be good. I know this would be a problem. No cows, goats, etc. How about another canned item? Condensed Milk or Powdered Milk perhaps?

[NukemDed]

but this is exactly what you should not do...

(this will take a little time for me ... Thanks , i reading now)

 

hey @roland

am I going mental? I read this post from n2n1 and went to reply and the post was different between what was on the screen in his post and what is in the quote part of this email.

now the op is as it is now, but there is no 'edited by...'

 

the syntax of his first line is different, and the inflection is very very different. if someone or something is "tidying up" his words, no wonder he is getting confused and frustrated.

 

from memory the original first line read something like

'but not this.... this you should do'

he was referencing the gronks 'I was trying to avoid a technical explanation'. look a the op and substitute what I think I saw there originally.

 

looking at his location - if he is from Russia - I have known a lot of Russian fishermen who speak very rough English (mostly swear words lol!)

the phrasing of the words I originally saw (said in my head with a Russian accent) would have meant more "Please do give a technical explanation, don't try to avoid it" than a demand to not do something.... way different

 

I think he is trying hard to understand and learn.

 

sorry if I am off base, but I swear the post changed....

 

-->update<--

I will now go and bang my head on a brick wall. hes changed the OP now.

time for a drink.

[madmole]

So you'll solve all the problems, give a bunch of opportunities, but vanilla left with a couple biomes? It you to us, the modders, are doing everything? Thanks a lot!

 

Dude let it rest or be banned.

[n2n1]

hey @roland

am I going mental? I read this post from n2n1 and went to reply and the post was different between what was on the screen in his post and what is in the quote part of this email.

now the op is as it is now, but there is no 'edited by...'

 

the syntax of his first line is different, and the inflection is very very different. if someone or something is "tidying up" his words, no wonder he is getting confused and frustrated.

 

from memory the original first line read something like

'but not this.... this you should do'

he was referencing the gronks 'I was trying to avoid a technical explanation'. look a the op and substitute what I think I saw there originally.

 

looking at his location - if he is from Russia - I have known a lot of Russian fishermen who speak very rough English (mostly swear words lol!)

the phrasing of the words I originally saw (said in my head with a Russian accent) would have meant more "Please do give a technical explanation, don't try to avoid it" than a demand to not do something.... way different

 

I think he is trying hard to understand and learn.

 

sorry if I am off base, but I swear the post changed....

 

-->update<--

I will now go and bang my head on a brick wall. hes changed the OP now.

time for a drink.

I always correct my post, all here correct their posts.... no?

I correct grammatical and other errors.

I wrote it for Gronk. I didn't get a chance to type it quickly. Don't worry i'm not a fisherman, i'm the aviator and Hardware specialist

Don't get upset, just ignore me if you don't want to write me something.

 

(well, maybe i'm rude... i'm a paratrooper training instructor, but everyone tells me i'm very polite, and i believe that)

 

Dude let it rest or be banned.

Ok. I forgot the plains.

[madmole]

You know what really limits recipe ideas is the lack of wheat and dairy. Just those two things makes endless possibilities.

I suppose cornmeal is good enough for flour if using your imagination... but dairy would be good. I know this would be a problem. No cows, goats, etc. How about another canned item? Condensed Milk or Powdered Milk perhaps?

 

corn starch is the same as wheat. Milk is for babies.

[Dimpy]

corn starch is the same as wheat. Milk is for babies.

 

Baby zombie confirmed for A19

[Ti2xGr]

I want an advanced pottery wheel so I can have the zombie stripper and I reproduce the scene from Ghost....

[NukemDed]

irl I don't use wheat flour at all, only corn flour (corn starch)

water and butter can be used for a milk substitute - not a far leap from water and animal fat (tallow maybe), all in game now

[Guppycur]

hey @roland

am I going mental? I read this post from n2n1 and went to reply and the post was different between what was on the screen in his post and what is in the quote part of this email.

now the op is as it is now, but there is no 'edited by...'

 

sorry if I am off base, but I swear the post changed....

 

-->update<--

I will now go and bang my head on a brick wall. hes changed the OP now.

time for a drink.

 

If you change/edit your post in the first minute or so it won't show "edited".

[AtomicUs5000]

irl I don't use wheat flour at all, only corn flour (corn starch)

water and butter can be used for a milk substitute - not a far leap from water and animal fat (tallow maybe), all in game now

 

Yeah I can see that. I don't see a good cheese coming from that though. I grew up in Buffalo, NY and cooked for 15 years. To this day, without a doubt, butter, cream, cheese makes everything good. Omelettes, Eggs Benedict, Chicken Cordon Bleu, Pizza, Gyro Sandwiches, Custards, Quesadillas, cereal, chicken parm, cheesesteak hogies, a wide variety of melts... etc.

 

Lack of milk is for farty people.

[Ouch Quit It]

Its used in Sham Chowder. If you guys want to brainstorm what to do with the remaining cans of food that puts them in a unique interesting recipe, share it. That doesn't mean new pie in the sky recipes, it means post me a recipe using xml of a new food item using the cans we have that makes sense. Please post your ideas like this:

 

Sham Chowder Recipe:

<recipe name="foodShamChowder" count="1" craft_area="campfire" craft_tool="toolCookingPot" tags="learnable">

<ingredient name="foodShamSandwich" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropPotato" count="2"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropCorn" count="2"/>

<ingredient name="drinkJarBoiledWater" count="1"/>

</recipe>

 

Recipes would be so much better ...if we had different types of meat again...venison stew, chicken soup, bear steaks...endless options. Stews should have 2-3 mushrooms added to the recipes. They are not used and are relatively rare without farming them.

[AtomicUs5000]

Burrito Recipe:

<recipe name="foodBurrito" count="1" craft_area="campfire" craft_tool="toolCookingGrill" tags="learnable">

<ingredient name="foodRawMeat" count="5"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropPotato" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCanChili" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropCorn" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCornMeal" count="3"/>

</recipe>

[Trankitas]

I've had that on my todo list from like a year ago. Since you reminded me, I gave it a shot and also fixed falling damage that was broken from some A18 changes.

 

A18:

Added zombies can ragdoll when falling more than 2m (spiders immune, ferals cap at 70%).

 

That's amazing dude, wanting to see that in 7DTD since I played Dying Light.

 

Can't wait to see it in action.

[AtomicUs5000]

Split Pea Soup Recipe:

<recipe name="foodSplitPeaSoup" count="1" craft_area="campfire" craft_tool="toolCookingPot" tags="learnable">

<ingredient name="foodCanPeas" count="2"/>

<ingredient name="foodCanHam" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropPotato" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="drinkJarBoiledWater" count="1"/>

</recipe>

[madmole]

irl I don't use wheat flour at all, only corn flour (corn starch)

water and butter can be used for a milk substitute - not a far leap from water and animal fat (tallow maybe), all in game now

Yes most people are gluten and dairy sensitive. I used to think I had a crappy immune system because I got sick 5-6x a year. I was just poisoning myself with that crap and stressing out my immune system. I quit eating that, lost 30 pounds and have been since twice (both times much shorter colds than the old days) in 3 years.

 

Sorry for off topic, but if I can help one person improve their life, its worth it Now back to regularly scheduled programming.

[madmole]

Recipes would be so much better ...if we had different types of meat again...venison stew, chicken soup, bear steaks...endless options. Stews should have 2-3 mushrooms added to the recipes. They are not used and are relatively rare without farming them.

 

Yeah you might want to knock the cobwebs out of your Alpha 16 covered brain.

[madmole]

Burrito Recipe:

<recipe name="foodBurrito" count="1" craft_area="campfire" craft_tool="toolCookingGrill" tags="learnable">

<ingredient name="foodRawMeat" count="5"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropPotato" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCanChili" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCropCorn" count="1"/>

<ingredient name="foodCornMeal" count="3"/>

</recipe>

 

Not bad, added to the list.