Lonestarcanuck Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I was just watching Joel's new video on perception (really cool BTW). and I was wondering. if 7DTD is in USA, why don't we have AR15 or M16 or M4s instead of AK? the AK is rare in USA compared to AR and with all the us bases overrun by zombies we would have access to a lot of older M16s or newer M4s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthjake Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sadly the AK is truly better in the field then an M16, don't get me wrong, the M16 is a fine piece of machinery, and it performs very well, the problem is maintaining the weapon, take an M16 and an AK 47, and leave them both in a drainage ditch for 6 months, guess which one will work. Hint, it probably won't be the M16. Not sure why TFP went with the AK, other then the fact that it is commonly associated with senseless violence all too often, like it's chinese cousin the SKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Not to mention that between the two, the AK is a lot easier to maintain. In a post-apocalyptic world it's more likely to survive extended use than the M16 or it's variations by someone who knows very little about maintaining an assault rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonestarcanuck Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 You both make good points, the M4 is far better when it comes to maintenance and has replaced the M16 and yes you can burry your AK and pick it up 6 months later and it will work, it sucks for range for the most part but it will work. Now back to if we are in the USA we would not find a lot of AKs we would find AR, M16, M4, M60, etc. and we would find 308s for hunting riffle and maybe some 303 (old Lee Enfields) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Great Taste!! Less Filling!!! -Morloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 i think because they used an AR15 for the sniper (semi auto magazine fed) they wanted something different looking for the full auto magazine fed option. Using an Ar-15 and an M4 or M16 most people would not be able to tell the difference looks wise. Hence the Ak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeraal Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Because it is the preferred weapon of your enemy, and it makes a very distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lussian Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hreatbreak Ridge much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonestarcanuck Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 that is a great line. now we can only get Napalm so I can quote another famous movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoncatz Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 i thought the location of the game was in Russia or czech because of the russian sounding name if the map navaezgane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbluebeer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 AK uses the same ammo as the sniper rifle, which looks a lot like the FN. Now, they both use different 7.62 rounds IRL, but close enough for a video game. yes the AK is much sturdier. It will have survived the apocalypse, the M16s will be trash until/unless repaired. FN is pretty sturdy too. 5.56 isnt designed to kill anyway, but to wound. It's a Barbie Gun. ppbblltt! on it. zombies dont' care about wounds. Need something to kill them. The 9mm pistol, same ammo for SMG. fine. For pistol work you have the magnum. (insert debate over which pistol should be in that class, .44 aka Dirty Harry, .50 Desert Eagle, oorrr, Redneck Rampage .454 Casull.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 What Sylen said... but also: 7.62 is the round you use to kill your enemies, 5.56 is the size you use when you're OK with just pissing them off... i thought the location of the game was in Russia or czech because of the russian sounding name if the map navaezgane ? Navezgane doesn't sound even remotely Slavic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoncatz Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 oh ok I just thought that I sounded like it but I guess it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junuxx Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I see a lot of potential in an Eastern European map theme overhaul mod, we could call it Novoganetsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiana Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hm.. you could make this discussion endless. So why not use a STG-77, or better yet, an STG-A3? Sturdy, packs a punch, uses 5.56mm ammo, and has quite a good range. Besides from that it looks better than the M4 or M16, and is heavily customizable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.devolver Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Is a good compensation? Edit: Last edited by SylenThunder; 4 Hours Ago at 10:49 PM. Reason: Replaced suspicious link with real one. @SylenThunder The link I used wasn't suspicious at all, it's a regular website which allows you to loop a specific part of a youtube video and just so you know, I had to re-edit the link because the one you left there wasn't showing exactly the part I meant to show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthjake Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 AK uses the same ammo as the sniper rifle, which looks a lot like the FN. Now, they both use different 7.62 rounds IRL, but close enough for a video game. yes the AK is much sturdier. It will have survived the apocalypse, the M16s will be trash until/unless repaired. FN is pretty sturdy too. 5.56 isnt designed to kill anyway, but to wound. It's a Barbie Gun. ppbblltt! on it. zombies dont' care about wounds. Need something to kill them. The 9mm pistol, same ammo for SMG. fine. For pistol work you have the magnum. (insert debate over which pistol should be in that class, .44 aka Dirty Harry, .50 Desert Eagle, oorrr, Redneck Rampage .454 Casull.) Someone else might be a John Ringo fan, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbluebeer Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Someone else might be a John Ringo fan, lol... could be. heh. (love that last series. want more.) "Dammit Curran, don't feed the zombies!" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poojam Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hm.. you could make this discussion endless. So why not use a STG-77, or better yet, an STG-A3? Sturdy, packs a punch, uses 5.56mm ammo, and has quite a good range. Besides from that it looks better than the M4 or M16, and is heavily customizable. The vast majority of the people who post on the forums are looking for ways to justify TFP design decisions. They are not interested in scrutinizing them with meaningful feedback such as analyzing the location & prevalence of weaponry, and how it doesn't appear to tie into the story line. (Great point OP, I would like to genuinely hear a better response on why it is the way it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thander Gil Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Because they are crap weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsabrock Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 i thought the location of the game was in Russia or czech because of the russian sounding name if the map navaezgane It's actually assumed to be in Arizona, USA. Here's an old forum thread from a couple years ago. https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?9288-Where-is-Navezgane-Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lussian Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Honestly though, I don't think we should care where we are or what weapon we're using... as long as we get to throw hot lead in the direction of whatever is tryin to have our flesh for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Probably because there are more AK47's in the world than any other gun ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Probably because there are more AK47's in the world than any other gun ever made. True but the OP was talking about in the US since the game is set in Navezgane, a fictional county in Arizona. Now I will grant you that if you exclude military bases and police stations and only count the privately owned ones the number of full auto AK/M16/M4's are probably very close indeed. But when you do include those major sources of full auto then yes the US made ones would ofc far outnumber the AK's. Semi auto AK's would almost surely be far outnumbered by semi auto AR 15's as well but there is a significant number of semi AK's around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbala Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Hm.. you could make this discussion endless. So why not use a STG-77, or better yet, an STG-A3? Sturdy, packs a punch, uses 5.56mm ammo, and has quite a good range. Besides from that it looks better than the M4 or M16, and is heavily customizable. Why don't we get them ALL! Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more makeshift weaponry, it being the apocalypse and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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