Windsailor Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Has the #TheGameIsTooEasyGate already been mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 LOL. I started right at the tail end of the Minimap removal gate. Also Roland, you forgot Stick Gate, and Where Did All My Meat Go Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadamier Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Yeah! Tell'em Roland! I don't doubt that there'll be more gates to come. This goes with 'paying for early access.' For most of us we came in at 15.2 and it's been great! Although there have been a few bugs that directly effected us, we surmounted those problems. We're loving every minute of play we get! Sure at times there are things we don't like or care about, but lets move forward towards BETA! On a personal level I still think there should be a release that solely focuses on a some fixes. Like the map 'disappearing'/'going grey'/'blank' after I've been somewhere. Could be that I've been there too many times? Donno... The best quote from all the gates: "...but the devs didn't care." YEAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblade01 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 LOL. I started right at the tail end of the Minimap removal gate. Also Roland, you forgot Stick Gate, and Where Did All My Meat Go Gate. StickGate was part of SimplificationGate (or StreamlineGate), where ores became parts of their original (stone ore => rockSmall, sticks + planks + logs => wood, deer meat + rabbit meat + pig meat => meat, and all the other stuff). I think the list is, however, missing ShadowGate (not the game) and HordeModeGate (was gone before 8.6 so I never saw it). Also, MoldGate (molding gun parts). I'm sure there are many others. And where's CraftingGridGate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyfo29 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 i like the idea of a mini map, but without the blips. just a basic map to allow us to know whats around us since we can't exactly turn our heads while on the minibike. as for console, i started 7d2d on ps4 & since buying the pc version i can't even touch the console. it lacks so much of what is in the pc version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 StickGate was part of SimplificationGate (or StreamlineGate), where ores became parts of their original (stone ore => rockSmall, sticks + planks + logs => wood, deer meat + rabbit meat + pig meat => meat, and all the other stuff). I think the list is, however, missing ShadowGate (not the game) and HordeModeGate (was gone before 8.6 so I never saw it). Also, MoldGate (molding gun parts). I'm sure there are many others. And where's CraftingGridGate? Boy do i miss hordemode. Too bad they didnt leave it in as is until they were ready to focus on it. Im sure there was a good reason to remove it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragtzack Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Stamina Gate: A16.1 brought an unwelcome change to stamina for many in the community. Stamina cost for using iron and steel tools was severely increased making using those tools a bad choice during the early game before perks and higher mining tool levels could be earned and coffee imbibed. Quite a few threads and posts debating the issue emerged. The jury is still out on whether stamina will remain as it is or change to more like it was. Didn't like the stamina gate at first, but now I think new stamina requirements for steel tools is GREAT thing because: These stamina issues are easily mitigated by the drinking of coffee for stamina and golden tea to offset the wellness loss caused by drinking the coffee. This causes the player to need to farm corps IF they want to mine/harvest efficiently. TFP even considering undoing this Stamina Gate and considering reverting back to SpamCrafting worries me because those actions would imply that TFP is leaning towards a Care Bear whack-a-mole type of game, versus a challenging game that requires players to make many competing choices to succeed. You don't want to farm for coffee and tea? Well then, your mining ability will suffer. You don't want to scavenge and kill zombies, well then your crafting will suffer because you need to gain experience. You don't want to craft, well then almost everything you need to do will suffer because you need better items to kills zombies and better items/materials to build better bases. Just say NO to a Care Bear whack a mole game. Just say no to folks that want a game where they can rush to end game status. The fun is in the journey, not the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tok Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I love the stamina change, it made beer and coffee relevant and worth growing. I like that they are making it so everything has a reason to be in the game. I always take a few jars of coffee with me when going to to get materials, its not a problem at all. Reading the OP i'm surprised they didnt just delete the forum lol. I am glad they stick to their guns and don't cave in to most of the moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selway Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Great read Roland. Chimney gate was my favorite. Although, even though it was before my time, I've read stories about "smooth terrain gate" when they changed word gen from the blocky Minecraft look to the smoothed terrain we see today. Thanks for the memories! A17 gates to look forward to: Zip line gate Too short of a release gate Smell gate Game is unplayable gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 I added in some of the requested gates. Some of the suggested ones were sort of included in with others but sell your reason why it should be its own and I'll do it. I don't have time to think about where to insert all the new ones so if you remember then tell me and sorry Lazer but I don't remember controversy regarding shadows. Help me out and jog my memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It was before I started playing, but I'd venture lazerblade01 is referring to when zombies ran any time they were in shadow, instead of only at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Amazing thread Roland, i was laughing waaaay too hard on what people can brag about xD Though i kinda recall a thread where people outraged because of not having the dual drawbridge available after it got removed from experimental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 As a new player who enjoys this game as it is, these 'gates gave me a good chuckle. Good write-ups! Sorry if this sounds insensitive to the pains of older players, but most of these seems too trivial to fight over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinda Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Perhaps someone should stage an intervention, letting madmole only create the male game-models and giving the creation of female game-models to one of the women on staff. yes! enough beards, bring in the high and long pigtails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 yes! enough beards, bring in the high and long pigtails! I dont think that'd work as a beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcharles Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 You could also add BeardGate. When Madmole said he would eat his beard if A16 stable wasn't out by..was it July 4th? (Not sure on the exact date.) Some users said Madmole should literally eat this beard, others said no, Madmole said he didn't remember saying it. He was strangely absent from the forum for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reth Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Yes, I agree wholeheartedly - some of the decisions TFP has made over the years are truly bizarre and caused an understandable uproar. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Roland. This is a good reminder to all the "TFP can do no wrong" people around here. Oh, wait. This wasn't your point, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faded Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Characterizing the reaction to some of the questionable design decisions as "nerdrage" is rather inaccurate. While many of these issues had their fair share of the vocal minority blowing things out of proportion, I find there is typically a lot of good debate on both sides of any argument, and that includes #levelgate. #One-block gate: now that the sleeper system is in, I think the primary reason for reverting it is gone now. #Legbreak gate: I broke my leg running uphill. I broke my leg because I stepped on a rabbit. I broke my leg because I landed 2 blocks down while stepping off some stairs in a hurry. That one was a major problem and I resorted to consoling the debuff off because it was not only happening so frequently, in those days the debuff lasted many hours in realtime, so it was particularly punishing. #Console gate: Ever since the console release, development time between Alphas has been noticeably longer. It's fine to claim that it isn't affecting the speed of PC development, but the correlation is there so it will raise eyebrows if nothing else. #Spamcrafting gate: The wrong solution was chosen, so this debate probably won't go away for a long time. We'll be feeling the effects into Beta, mark my words. #Harvest gate: An unsurprising change to the early game to slow it down for the 80th time. Luckily it is not a problem for very long, and the end result has been the final death of wood structures since they're weak against zombies anyway, their only benefit was how fast they could be built earlygame. #1-Shot gate: Luckily that one was reverted, because the reasoning for it was dubious at best. Spending the points to unlock 5/5 ST, 5/5 M69R, steel, and getting a 600 QL steel pickaxe should let you AoE stone because it takes so bloody long to get. Making it so it took 2 shots was insulting and only resulted in players not bothering to progress to the max while it was in effect (I modded it out every time because it was that bad of a change) #Horde mode gate: I believe it was removed because the then-new addition of the Day 7 hordes were viewed as a potential replacement. For those that mod, this is rather simple to reproduce, for those that don't, it's a true loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 No mention of Dog Gate? It has evolved many times over the years. Currently it is evolved into random animal gate. In the past, peoplr complained they ran to fast, chased you forever, etc. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faded Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 No mention of Dog Gate? It has evolved many times over the years. Currently it is evolved into random animal gate. In the past, peoplr complained they ran to fast, chased you forever, etc. Etc. And in response, dog speed was increased to exceed the player's speed in A14-15. Did they revert that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo_Nike Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Ya know its funny i was actually going to make a post today about the trees and wondering why TFP took it out. Then again i was one of the ones who rarely if ever died (though it took a while to find out where to stand). Also id say that the newest ones are likely as Laz Man said 1: doggate - run to fast, wolves (of many types), too much damage, etc. and: 2: soundgate - the silent zombie and dog hordes i see complained about on the forums. maybe: 3: radiationgate - dunno if it is a "gate" level yet but i have seen some posts on the irradiated zombies. most are still civil but some are getting a bit loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Ya know its funny i was actually going to make a post today about the trees and wondering why TFP took it out. Then again i was one of the ones who rarely if ever died (though it took a while to find out where to stand). Also id say that the newest ones are likely as Laz Man said 1: doggate - run to fast, wolves (of many types), too much damage, etc. and: 2: soundgate - the silent zombie and dog hordes i see complained about on the forums. maybe: 3: radiationgate - dunno if it is a "gate" level yet but i have seen some posts on the irradiated zombies. most are still civil but some are getting a bit loud bah, in one form or another dogs have always been a gate at one point or another. Sound gate is a reoccurring issue as well, again in one form or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerblade01 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It was before I started playing, but I'd venture lazerblade01 is referring to when zombies ran any time they were in shadow, instead of only at night. ^ This right here, @Roland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themirror Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 gun mold (infinite weapons ) gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selway Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 After going down memory lane while reading all of these, it makes me thankful the Devs have a pretty good idea when to listen to the community and when not to. For instance, currently over in the alpha 16 dev thread, they are debating to the nth degree if the new paint system is good or not. Yes...even the PAINT system!!! OMG...it's Paint Gate... shoot me now. It just goes to prove you can't make everyone happy. Fortunately, the devs have a good foundation of what they want and mostly stick to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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