Sjustus548 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I'm trying to think of new horde base ideas that I want to try so I was looking thru the different electrical options that we have available. That's when I realize that I don't use really any of the things that we can craft. The few things we were using, Electric Fence and SMG Turrets, we had to remove due to them causing errors in the game. Other than testing on creative worlds, I've never used the dart traps, pressure plates, trip wires, and most of the other electrical devices, though we finally put down some blade traps on day 150 and are really hoping they don't screw up the zombie pathfinding too much. I want to use a wall of dart traps but don't know if they are really worth using compared to the turrets. If you use some of these electrical devices how do you implement them in to your designs and do you find them worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diragor Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Every trap is worth it. A wall of dart traps that is looking into the zombies coming closer or being behind them is perfect. Or combine them sideways with electric fence and they will stay there being fcked by Darts Door | zombies -> Dart Traps > ____________________________ | <- < [you are here] | <- < | <- < ____________________________ This is a cheap drawing of what I mean. you see while they try hitting the doors you can stay behind and let the darts do the job or you only use 1 door and beside the door some Bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danidas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Dart traps are very powerful especially at higher game difficulty levels as their damage doesn't scale. Since the higher your game difficulty the more the game lowers your damage output while buffing the zombies damage but their health stays the same. Which actually results in Dart traps being worse then shooting the zeds at default difficulty but at max difficulty are far superior than attacking them yourself. Note that the same most likely applies to Blade Traps and Electric Fences but does not apply to Turrets at all since bullet damage gets scaled lower the higher your game stage is. Now the down side is that Dart Traps are very and I mean VERY iron hungry so expect to be mining a lot to keep them topped off with darts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirenostra Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 just fences and blades. Tried darts, but they end up pretty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychodabble Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Blade traps, fences, SMG turrets. Just added dart traps, so we'll see how that works out. Pictures here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rince Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 In my previous-semi-current game I used mostly blade traps and dart traps with pressure plates. I have in the to do list make my garage doors automatic with motion sensors. In my current-current game I haven't reached the point where I can start using elecricity. But I'm planning to use lots of lights, blade and darts again and try the elecrical fence. And too some sort of automatic entrance, so I can get with my bicycle (or even bike!) right into my base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitcoms Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I love using traps to help with my horde defense. I use a hatch base, and at the choke points I have a double layer of electric fences and 8 dart traps. it decimates the zombies I'm facing right now (day 24). I'd like to add some blade traps at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Electric fence is a must for horde night. SMG turrets in my homebase and sometimes dart traps for the horde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcharles Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I just recently started playing around with traps too and now wondered why I waited so long. I put barbed wire right where the line of the electric fence is to slow zombies down. Traps are fun to play with! Not electric but I also tend to use robotic sledge with the burning shaft, weighted and rad remover mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjustus548 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Samcharles said: I just recently started playing around with traps too and now wondered why I waited so long. I put barbed wire right where the line of the electric fence is to slow zombies down. Traps are fun to play with! Not electric but I also tend to use robotic sledge with the burning shaft, weighted and rad remover mod. I tried to use the robotic sledges with the same setup, both of mine were quality 6 so I also threw on another mod for some extra damage, but they let me down big time. I put two down in front of me and had like 25 zombies run right at me to test them out. All the zombies ran right past them and the sledges didn't do anything to stop them lol. They were in the middle of their rotation and were staring right at each other so they didn't hit any of the zombies. I like to imagine they were just laughing together at how they were going to let me die. After that I just threw them in a box to rust. 58 minutes ago, pApA^LeGBa said: Electric fence is a must for horde night. SMG turrets in my homebase and sometimes dart traps for the horde. Sadly I can't use the electric fences in my world. Something about them causes errors every time they do damage to a zombie. I haven't tested them since 19.2 came out so maybe I'll be able to use them again. I will start using dart traps though. I'm thinking about having them set up so they are facing down with a pressure plate right below them. So when the zombie steps on the plate it will shoot but I'm wondering if the darts would start to damage the plate and eventually break it. Do you know whether the darts will cause damage to the plates or if I'm safe to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitcoms Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sjustus548 said: I tried to use the robotic sledges with the same setup, both of mine were quality 6 so I also threw on another mod for some extra damage, but they let me down big time. I put two down in front of me and had like 25 zombies run right at me to test them out. All the zombies ran right past them and the sledges didn't do anything to stop them lol. They were in the middle of their rotation and were staring right at each other so they didn't hit any of the zombies. I like to imagine they were just laughing together at how they were going to let me die. After that I just threw them in a box to rust. Sadly I can't use the electric fences in my world. Something about them causes errors every time they do damage to a zombie. I haven't tested them since 19.2 came out so maybe I'll be able to use them again. I will start using dart traps though. I'm thinking about having them set up so they are facing down with a pressure plate right below them. So when the zombie steps on the plate it will shoot but I'm wondering if the darts would start to damage the plate and eventually break it. Do you know whether the darts will cause damage to the plates or if I'm safe to do this? I have my dart traps facing eachother (from the side of my pathway), and they do not damage the other dart trap when they fire. I also have mine set up to only fire when zombies are on the pressure plates. I'm not 100% sure about the pressure plate taking damage if the dart trap is above, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danidas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Sjustus548 said: I tried to use the robotic sledges with the same setup, both of mine were quality 6 so I also threw on another mod for some extra damage, but they let me down big time. I put two down in front of me and had like 25 zombies run right at me to test them out. All the zombies ran right past them and the sledges didn't do anything to stop them lol. They were in the middle of their rotation and were staring right at each other so they didn't hit any of the zombies. I like to imagine they were just laughing together at how they were going to let me die. After that I just threw them in a box to rust. Robotic sledges are only really effective at choke points and when zombies have to slow down to jump or stop to beat on a door/bar/wall. As a result the ideal way to use them is at the top of a block stair way so the zeds have to jump up each block only for the sledge to knock them to the bottom to repeat the process. However just make sure the sledge always hits the zeds from the right and never front left to minimize the chance of setting off Demos. As any time the sledge hits a Demo from the front left it has a very high chance of triggering them but said chance is vastly reduced from just about all other angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Sitcoms said: I have my dart traps facing eachother (from the side of my pathway), and they do not damage the other dart trap when they fire. I also have mine set up to only fire when zombies are on the pressure plates. I'm not 100% sure about the pressure plate taking damage if the dart trap is above, though. I prefer to use trip wires with them so they are behind walls and protected from damage, especially from demos. Pair them up with electric fences to stun the zeds and keeps dart usage way down. I also have them hooked up to switch so I only turn them one when I feel overwhelmed or when demos show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Sjustus548 said: Sadly I can't use the electric fences in my world. Something about them causes errors every time they do damage to a zombie. I haven't tested them since 19.2 came out so maybe I'll be able to use them again. I will start using dart traps though. I'm thinking about having them set up so they are facing down with a pressure plate right below them. So when the zombie steps on the plate it will shoot but I'm wondering if the darts would start to damage the plate and eventually break it. Do you know whether the darts will cause damage to the plates or if I'm safe to do this? You should post your problem in general support. Make sure you read the sticky thread first. No clue about the dart traps and block damage tbh. If i use them, they usually shoot them in the back, so if they hit blocks, it´s the same blocks that got hit by the puke from cops or vultures. But if you wanna make sure you don´t damage your pressure plate adjust the timing so you don´t have to place them right above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirenostra Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I do use robotic sledge at the base main door which stays open all BM paired with some barbed wire and electric fence, so they see me, they try to get to me, but they never can)) Cause they get shocked by the doctor for not cooperating cause they're rocking the table while his operating)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychodabble Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 1:47 PM, Psychodabble said: Blade traps, fences, SMG turrets. Just added dart traps, so we'll see how that works out. Pictures here. UPDATE: The dart traps worked great. I have them positioned above the zombies shooting down and they helped me take down my first 3 Demos - no explosions. Complete base repairs finished in 2 hours of game time, default day length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphemous Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I used to run a pit base with blade traps in crucial drop zones, which would hack the legs off of zombies and slow down their return but the AI changed in recent versions and they're not as good as they used to be. Now I just use a switch to pour solar electricity through lamps to light up the base and zombies beating at the walls. The defense is purely passive - triple steel wall, four blocks high, surrounding a narrow-foundation tower-like base, which has cornices running around high enough above the wall to let me nuke the Zs with a rocket launcher. Gets me 5-7 levels every horde night even past character level 100. Also I'm doing a 64 zombie horde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I uses Blade traps, Blade traps, Shock wires, and turrets rarely i don't uses Dartraps, I really don't like them, (i don't know how to uses them good), but you do you! And i only really uses motion sensors, or Trip wires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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