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46 minutes ago, SE-Chris said:

Can anyone help here?  I'm running these EXACT same settings and getting a completely different map/world.  

Is anyone else able to use these exact settings here and get the exact same results?

 

That post is from December 15th. B238 is from December 21st, that map can no longer be generated. Every time the build changes, the map generated by a seed changes.

 

The seeds posted by Joe and I are all created for B238, which Alpha 20 Stable's build. That seed wasn't.

 

 

46 minutes ago, SE-Chris said:

Can anyone help here?  I'm running these EXACT same settings and getting a completely different map/world.  

Is anyone else able to use these exact settings here and get the exact same results?

I assume no one has answers to the following.. but it really needs to be included in a true Wiki:

- What do each of the sliders actually do?  For example, Mountains.  What's the specific difference between leaving it at 1 vs 10?

- What does "Random" slider do? 

 

I realize a lot of information on this game and especially from "TFP" who are notorious for being completely silent on any meaningful details... doesn't exist and modders often have to guess.

 

 

Increasing the slider for any terrain type will increase the percentage of the map that is occupied by that terrain type. If you want to know exactly how much, the percentage is X*100/(P+H+M+R), where X is the number of the slider and P, H, M and R as the numbers for plains, Hills, Mountains and Random, respectively. By the way, because terrain is generated before all other features of the map expect biomes, changing any slider will change the whole map.

 

The "random" slider will produce plains, mountains and hills in a random proportion. So if you have Plains 10, Hills 0, Mountains 0 and Random 10 you could have a map that is 100% plains, or 50% plains, 25% hills, 25% mountains, or any other weird result but at least 50% would be plains.

 

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9 hours ago, Death Wish said:

Is there a quick way to zoom out after creating a map?? or a mod that helps??

Not really, much of the slowness is due to it using a lot of system resources for the render. I find that it's pretty speedy if I just let it sit till it has populated all of the POIs, then zoom out. 

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On 12/28/2021 at 12:12 PM, dcsobral said:

Here are some size 6144 seeds. They use some rather extreme settings but, to me, using a smaller map is about urban areas being close to each other and the default settings just didn't give me that. I could probably "tone it down" a bit to get some color on these maps, but searching for seeds is boring and I decided not to bother. So, these are the settings:

 

Size: 6144

Towns: Many

Wilderness POI's: Default

Rivers: None

Craters: None

Cracks: None

Lakes: None

Plains: 10

Hills: 0

Mountains: 0

Random: 0

 

And here's a preview of what they look like (and their names!):

 

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Legend:

The red dots are spawn locations. The brown dots that look almost like the red dots are wilderness prefabs. Green is residential, blue is commercial, yellow is industrial (yes, like in Simcity). Light green is residential, dark green is country residential, olive green is rural (city borders -- usually farms but sometimes other stuff like the drive in or the high school). Gray is downtown, pink is trader and you'll usually see traders next to white and black squares (generation artifact, mostly). The weird circle with a green dot at the center is a suggested base location, rated on the proximity of tiers 3, 4 and 5 buildings, industrial buildings, downtown buildings, traders and my own pick of the top 15 POIs in the game. It's 1km in radius. Biome colors are the same as in the in-game's map.

 

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Giving StarryCropland a go!

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	<world name="large">
		<property name="world_size" value="10000,16000"/>
		<property name="border_step_distance" value="256"/>
	
		<property class="mountains">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="true"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="desert_mountains">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="true"/>
			<property name="biome_mask_min" value="0.25"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="hills">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="false"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="plains">
			<property name="scale" value="2,3"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="0"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="450"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="false"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="lakes">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="rivers">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="5"/>
			<property name="many" value="10"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="craters">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="canyons">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="water_border">
			<property name="scale" value="1.5,3.5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="oldwest">
			<property name="few" value="3"/>
			<property name="default" value="4"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="2"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="3"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="countrytown">
			<property name="few" value="5"/>
			<property name="default" value="6"/>
			<property name="many" value="8"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="8"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="10"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="town">
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="10"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="12"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="city">
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="18"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="22"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="wilderness">
			<property name="few" value="300"/>
			<property name="default" value="350"/>
			<property name="many" value="400"/>
		</property>
	</world>

Moded City size
Seed: CarinhaDAPX
Size: 10640
Many
Default
Default
Default
Default
Default

6, 1, 1, 2

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Is there any way to get the exact map others have generated? There are a few maps I tried to make from this thread, but my map is never the same as the ones posted. Even though i put the same information in, same map size etc. 

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40 minutes ago, aleida said:

Is there any way to get the exact map others have generated? There are a few maps I tried to make from this thread, but my map is never the same as the ones posted. Even though i put the same information in, same map size etc. 

Then you are doing something wrong.   Either you are looking at a map from experimental, you not following the EXACT instructions in THIS post , or you are doing something else wrong.   

 

Just last night, I, as well as someone I was in discord with who was screen sharing,  reran a map I made over a month ago.    Despite the original map being made in A20.0, the exact same map layout(with different POIs in some cases) was created in A20.1.   Cities/towns in the exact same location(wilderness POI's were different though!!!!!), same districts in the exact same location with each of those cities(I pulled up the old map and the new one and compared in detail.

 

 

 

 

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On 2/5/2022 at 3:57 PM, aleida said:

Is there any way to get the exact map others have generated? There are a few maps I tried to make from this thread, but my map is never the same as the ones posted. Even though i put the same information in, same map size etc. 

Not all maps in this thread state what 7 Days to Die version they were made in. I know at least one map I checked was not made in Alpha 20 Stable (b238) because the post was made before b238 experimental was even out, let alone stable. You have to use the very same version to generate the map or it will most likely not be the same. Both I and @JoeDaFrogman have posted seeds that were generated in Alpha 20 Stable. You can download that version by right clicking on 7 Days to Die on steam, clicking on Betas, then selecting "alpha20.0 - Alpha 20.0 Stable" in the drop down box. Once you have done so, you can generate the map by following the instructions Joe linked in the post above, exit 7 Days to Die, switch back to the latest stable by selecting "None" in the drop down box, and then starting a new game in that world.

 

If you have tried to generate the world before I recommend you delete what was generated first. There's option to do it in the game so you have to open the Explorer on Windows, go to %APPDATA%/7DaysToDie/GeneratedWorlds and deleting the world by hand.

 

I wish things were easier, but, unfortunately, they are not.

 

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EDIT: to be clear, I MANUALLY edited the rwgmixer.xml file to change some values on what "Many" towns means as well as how many tiles are available for both cities and normal towns in order to get results OTHER than the left most(which is default for said seed and size)

 

So.. I was bored and started playing around.

 

 

Left is default

Middle is quite a few bumps up

Right is jacked WAYYYYYY up because when you gonna go crazy experimenting, you might as well throw all reason out the window

 

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1 hour ago, JoeDaFrogman said:

 

 

So.. I was bored and started playing around.

 

 

Left is default

Middle is quite a few bumps up

Right is jacked WAYYYYYY up because when you gonna go crazy experimenting, you might as well throw all reason out the window

 

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I'd definitely play that middle one for Darkness Falls :D

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13 hours ago, JoeDaFrogman said:

 

 

So.. I was bored and started playing around.

 

 

Left is default

Middle is quite a few bumps up

Right is jacked WAYYYYYY up because when you gonna go crazy experimenting, you might as well throw all reason out the window

 

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You mean you modded the mixer, right?

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 Seed: Kryptonite

Size: 6144

Towns: Many

POI's: Many

Rivers: None

Craters: Default

Cracks: Default

Lakes: None

Plains: 6

Hills: 6

Mountains: 2

Random: 2

 

 

4 biomes, all evenly sized in a checkerboard pattern, with the forest biome starting in the northwest and bleeding into the middle with a narrow split of the upper and lower biomes, all the way to the east. No burnt forest. I don't know how to attach an image. Starts you literally right by the trader, which is in view as soon as you spawn! The trader is also right on the edge of a huge town. The town usually has some kind of reservoir that you can use as a water source. Also, across the street from the trader is a large open area which is perfect for building in! It's nice and flat. If you don't want to build from scratch, there is a house right on the edge of town, next door to the trader. I ran this seed twice, and noticed that there were some minor variations such as there being a different style trader building, and the hills across the street from the trader were gone the second time around. I have been having a lot of fun with this seed. I haven't even put a dent in the nearby town yet, as there is so much crap to find. Happy hunting!

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On 1/14/2022 at 10:04 AM, ExeBT said:
	<world name="large">
		<property name="world_size" value="10000,16000"/>
		<property name="border_step_distance" value="256"/>
	
		<property class="mountains">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="true"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="desert_mountains">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="true"/>
			<property name="biome_mask_min" value="0.25"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="hills">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="4"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="800"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="false"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="plains">
			<property name="scale" value="2,3"/>
			<property name="cluster_iterations" value="0"/>
			<property name="cluster_range" value="450"/>
			<property name="use_biome_mask" value="false"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="lakes">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="rivers">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="5"/>
			<property name="many" value="10"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="craters">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="canyons">
			<property name="scale" value="1,2.5"/>
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="water_border">
			<property name="scale" value="1.5,3.5"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="oldwest">
			<property name="few" value="3"/>
			<property name="default" value="4"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="2"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="3"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="countrytown">
			<property name="few" value="5"/>
			<property name="default" value="6"/>
			<property name="many" value="8"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="8"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="10"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="town">
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="10"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="12"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="city">
			<property name="few" value="2"/>
			<property name="default" value="3"/>
			<property name="many" value="5"/>
			
			<property name="mintiles" value="18"/>
			<property name="maxtiles" value="22"/>
		</property>
		
		<property class="wilderness">
			<property name="few" value="300"/>
			<property name="default" value="350"/>
			<property name="many" value="400"/>
		</property>
	</world>

Moded City size
Seed: CarinhaDAPX
Size: 10640
Many
Default
Default
Default
Default
Default

6, 1, 1, 2

8_mapWithObjects.png

would not RANDOM of 2 mean no one is likely to make the same map?

49 minutes ago, PsychoToke said:

I ran this seed twice, and noticed that there were some minor variations such as there being a different style trader building, and the hills across the street from the trader were gone the second time around. I have been having a lot of fun with this seed. I haven't even put a dent in the nearby town yet, as there is so much crap to find. Happy hunting!

That's almost certainly due to your RANDOM =2 value.     I can reliably reproduce the exact same town/city/mountain/hills/etc layout simply by removing random from the equation which is kind of the point of posting seeds here right?   Since the terrain features are placed long before POI's, any changes to the terrain features due to random have a highly variable effect on reproducibility of the same map with the same town/city layout.  

 

 

 

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Will the bandit's be tougher to fight at night? Maybe give bandits bonuses if it is night time, Thunder storm, 7th day.

 

I want the bandits to be terrifying, chase you out of cities, break your spirits, have you forming game plans on how to approach areas where they roam.  I would like to read comments from other players about how the bandits are kicking their ass. I want bandits to work in teams sometimes forcing you to sit and hide for hours(in game) until they leave your area. Taking on more than four or five bandits at a time should amount to death even when your character is at the highest level. 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:28 PM, ltbrunt said:

Will the bandit's be tougher to fight at night? Maybe give bandits bonuses if it is night time, Thunder storm, 7th day.

 

I want the bandits to be terrifying, chase you out of cities, break your spirits, have you forming game plans on how to approach areas where they roam.  I would like to read comments from other players about how the bandits are kicking their ass. I want bandits to work in teams sometimes forcing you to sit and hide for hours(in game) until they leave your area. Taking on more than four or five bandits at a time should amount to death even when your character is at the highest level. 

I like the idea of tougher bandits.  maybe add in something like a portable alarm they could ring to bring reinforcements if you don't take out the smaller groups fast enough??  kinda like a screamer, but bandits  :D

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Ok, here are my top 40 seeds for Alpha 20.2 Stable. All seeds below have these settings:

 

World Size: 8192

Towns: Many

Plains: 8

Hills: 3

Mountains: 1

Random: 0

All other settings: default

 

The white circles in the preview thumbnails are a suggested base location which maximizes proximity to the best POIs.

Edit: it seems the word "R3tard3d", replacing 3 with e, was "censored". So if you see weird characters, that's what it was supposed to be.

 

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And here's some extra information on them:

 

          # of Prefabs                        # of Traders                        Unique Prefabs                        Rate
 40  3248 Single-entryDeanship         1   13 AccumulatedBorers           39  582 MultiracialDiagraph         40  22130 PinchedConversance
 39  3266 InexpugnablePlutarch         1   13 AmnesicBogbean              39  582 QuadruplexDeposit           39  25722 UnthoroughConstrictions
 38  3284 MimeticEarflaps              1   13 AphonicConqueror            38  583 First-handManitoba          38  26756 ClawlessDeteriorations
 37  3287 SocialistDupion              1   13 BoilingOsric                37  584 NobbiestCrocodilians        37  28433 ResettledClotbur
 36  3301 LondonyConfraternities       1   13 BootlegBonne                36  586 AphonicConqueror            36  29518 WhackyFolketing
 35  3315 InexpedientAntiserums        1   13 BordelaiseAftertastes       35  587 ClawlessDeteriorations      35  29827 @%$#edDictator
 34  3320 ElamiteCentroids             1   13 CasematedAutoplasty         33  588 AmnesicBogbean              34  34724 PerturbableChoreographers
 33  3331 UnthoroughConstrictions      1   13 ClawlessDeteriorations      33  588 UnthoroughConstrictions     33  35800 TousledChilblains
 31  3347 TousledChilblains            1   13 EcaudateWhitsun             32  589 InexpugnablePlutarch        32  37800 BoilingOsric
 31  3347 UncontrolledDuet             1   13 ElamiteCentroids            31  591 CasematedAutoplasty         31  37813 SyncopatedDisarmament
 30  3366 EstivalBusinessman           1   13 EstivalBusinessman          29  592 PacificCanterbury           30  37824 BordelaiseAftertastes
 28  3402 PustularCottonade            1   13 ExplanatoryDrawback         29  592 VasiformEconomies           29  37999 Single-entryDeanship
 28  3402 SyncopatedDisarmament        1   13 First-handManitoba          28  593 AccumulatedBorers           28  38417 AphonicConqueror
 27  3404 MultiracialDiagraph          1   13 InexpedientAntiserums       24  594 BoilingOsric                27  39338 AmnesicBogbean
 26  3415 QuadruplexDeposit            1   13 InexpugnablePlutarch        24  594 BootlegBonne                26  39606 LaconianAnacreontic
 25  3471 PinchedConversance           1   13 IrresolubleRaymond          24  594 @%$#edDictator            25  39744 LuckierBroncos
 24  3476 VasiformEconomies            1   13 LaconianAnacreontic         24  594 SocialistDupion             24  40337 LagomorphousCoths
 22  3487 AmnesicBogbean               1   13 LagomorphousCoths           20  595 BordelaiseAftertastes       23  43505 ExplanatoryDrawback
 22  3487 PacificCanterbury            1   13 LondonyConfraternities      20  595 PinchedConversance          22  43786 UncontrolledDuet
 20  3490 LuckierBroncos               1   13 LuckierBroncos              20  595 PustularCottonade           21  44055 MimeticEarflaps
 20  3490 PerturbableChoreographers    1   13 MimeticEarflaps             20  595 ResettledClotbur            20  44567 VasiformEconomies
 19  3493 BoilingOsric                 1   13 MultiracialDiagraph         19  596 Single-entryDeanship        19  44616 AccumulatedBorers
 18  3498 ClawlessDeteriorations       1   13 NobbiestCrocodilians        14  597 EcaudateWhitsun             18  45520 EcaudateWhitsun
 17  3505 ExplanatoryDrawback          1   13 PacificCanterbury           14  597 ExplanatoryDrawback         17  45791 ElamiteCentroids
 16  3522 First-handManitoba           1   13 PerturbableChoreographers   14  597 IrresolubleRaymond          16  45886 EstivalBusinessman
 15  3527 BordelaiseAftertastes        1   13 PinchedConversance          14  597 LaconianAnacreontic         15  52179 First-handManitoba
 14  3553 LagomorphousCoths            1   13 PustularCottonade           14  597 LagomorphousCoths           14  54486 InexpedientAntiserums
 13  3554 BootlegBonne                 1   13 QuadruplexDeposit           12  598 EstivalBusinessman          13  54637 NobbiestCrocodilians
 12  3558 EcaudateWhitsun              1   13 ResettledClotbur            12  598 InexpedientAntiserums       12  55454 TemperingCanines
 10  3561 NobbiestCrocodilians         1   13 ResinatedBacksliders         9  599 LondonyConfraternities      11  55834 MultiracialDiagraph
 10  3561 ResinatedBacksliders         1   13 @%$#edDictator             9  599 LuckierBroncos              10  55914 CasematedAutoplasty
  9  3563 AphonicConqueror             1   13 Single-entryDeanship         9  599 ResinatedBacksliders         9  59833 QuadruplexDeposit
  8  3569 ResettledClotbur             1   13 SocialistDupion              5  600 ElamiteCentroids             8  61634 PustularCottonade
  7  3611 LaconianAnacreontic          1   13 SyncopatedDisarmament        5  600 PerturbableChoreographers    7  63563 BootlegBonne
  6  3613 CasematedAutoplasty          1   13 TemperingCanines             5  600 SyncopatedDisarmament        6  64570 LondonyConfraternities
  5  3625 IrresolubleRaymond           1   13 TousledChilblains            5  600 TousledChilblains            5  68085 ResinatedBacksliders
  4  3667 TemperingCanines             1   13 UncontrolledDuet             1  602 MimeticEarflaps              4  72155 SocialistDupion
  3  3682 @%$#edDictator             1   13 UnthoroughConstrictions      1  602 TemperingCanines             3  73389 IrresolubleRaymond
  2  3686 AccumulatedBorers            1   13 VasiformEconomies            1  602 UncontrolledDuet             2 107582 PacificCanterbury
  1  3728 WhackyFolketing              1   13 WhackyFolketing              1  602 WhackyFolketing              1 113094 InexpugnablePlutarch
          # of Prefabs                        # of Traders                        Unique Prefabs                        Rate
          
          Pos Uniq Tier 3 (56)                Pos Uniq Tier 4 (33)                Pos Uniq Tier 5 (8)
  1   54 AccumulatedBorers           39   30 QuadruplexDeposit           35    4 BoilingOsric
  1   54 AmnesicBogbean              39   30 UnthoroughConstrictions     35    4 BootlegBonne
  1   54 AphonicConqueror            25   31 AccumulatedBorers           35    4 ClawlessDeteriorations
  1   54 BoilingOsric                25   31 AmnesicBogbean              35    4 First-handManitoba
  1   54 BootlegBonne                25   31 BootlegBonne                35    4 SocialistDupion
  1   54 BordelaiseAftertastes       25   31 CasematedAutoplasty         35    4 UnthoroughConstrictions
  1   54 CasematedAutoplasty         25   31 ClawlessDeteriorations      20    5 AccumulatedBorers
  1   54 ClawlessDeteriorations      25   31 EstivalBusinessman          20    5 AmnesicBogbean
  1   54 EcaudateWhitsun             25   31 First-handManitoba          20    5 AphonicConqueror
  1   54 ElamiteCentroids            25   31 InexpugnablePlutarch        20    5 BordelaiseAftertastes
  1   54 EstivalBusinessman          25   31 LaconianAnacreontic         20    5 CasematedAutoplasty
  1   54 ExplanatoryDrawback         25   31 NobbiestCrocodilians        20    5 EstivalBusinessman
  1   54 First-handManitoba          25   31 PacificCanterbury           20    5 ExplanatoryDrawback
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  1   19 ElamiteCentroids            15   46 WhackyFolketing              1   76 LondonyConfraternities
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On 2/11/2022 at 2:26 PM, JoeDaFrogman said:

would not RANDOM of 2 mean no one is likely to make the same map?

That's almost certainly due to your RANDOM =2 value.     I can reliably reproduce the exact same town/city/mountain/hills/etc layout simply by removing random from the equation which is kind of the point of posting seeds here right?   Since the terrain features are placed long before POI's, any changes to the terrain features due to random have a highly variable effect on reproducibility of the same map with the same town/city layout.  

 

 

 

Actually, I think random is just a way of adding variation between seeds, but it is as fixed per seed as anything else. 

 

For example, say you want at least 50% of the world to be plains in all your seeds, but you want some seeds to have lots of mountains, others to be mostly flat, etc. You could make it with Plains 5, Hills 0, Mountains 0, Random 5. However, every seed would always generate the exact same map just like with any other parameter, because the randomness is still based on the seed. "Seed" is the pseudo-random number generator's seed, and the sequence of "random" (pseudo-random) numbers is always the same given a seed.

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Can some peeps try a RWG/advanced (use any parameters)

 

seed name/generator = Alpha20.1(b6)

 

For me after the build a fire quest I get No Traders

Tried various deletes re-aquires but always get the no trader

half the map is forest and I think there was old bug of if quest 1st trader being in forest gives no trader bug?

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2758799494

 

if its just me I still have bad files somewhere if some can repeat and get same no trader then maybe bug still in.......

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