Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 For the upcomming 17.1 i want to make a challenge. Make a Hordesafe base by only using 500 Flagstone blocks (2 Door + 2Hatches and and a Dozend other blocks are allowed, but must be craftable without any stationary tool Asset) The aim is a base you can build the first 3 days. safe ennough to store your startstuff and produce buildmaterial for something serious. The base must be able to hold (accessable) at least * 1 Bed * 1 Chemistry station * 1 Workbench * 2 Mixer * 2 Forges * 1 Campfire * 6 Boxes/Crates Bonuspoints (no idea if reachable) * Inclusive garage * No AI Cheesing * PVP safety (rofl) * RP immersive * Garden * Passive Defenses * ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 As first i share some values 4 high is not really enough, z can stand on each other and jump up 6 High you will have green Spiders jumping on 3x3 Pillar 4 High = 36 (x4 = 144) 3x3 Pillar 6 High = 54 (x4 = 216) 3x3 Pillar 8 High = 72 (x4 = 288) 4x4 massive socket 4 High = 64 4x4 massive socket 6 High = 96 4x4 massive socket 8 High = 128 5x5 massive socket 4 High = 100 5x5 massive socket 6 High = 150 5x5 massive socket 8 High = 200 6x6 massive socket 4 High = 144 6x6 massive socket 6 High = 216 6x6 massive socket 8 High = 288 7x7 massive socket 4 High = 196 7x7 massive socket 6 High = 294 7x7 massive socket 8 High = 392 8x8 massive socket 4 High = 256 8x8 massive socket 6 High = 384 8x8 massive socket 8 High = 512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kattla Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 * No AI Cheesing Best to define what is cheesing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Best to define what is cheesing first. I see no way to define something so complex generally. But if you stand on defense position and left and right of you Zombies jump up to fall down i would call it not immersive and add a cheesy sticker on it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyris Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You might wanna specify that you cannot take over a poi to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The aim is a base you can build the first 3 days. The base must be able to hold (accessable) at least * 1 Bed * 1 Chemistry station * 1 Workbench * 2 Mixer * 2 Forges * 1 Campfire * 6 Boxes/Crates Do you have the underlined things by day 3 (or even by day 7)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Floater plates allowed? Logging out allowed? Is running around your base count for being hoard-safe? (who would risk so much stuff!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyris Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Do you have the underlined things by day 3 (or even by day 7)? On 60 min days I usually have forge and workbench by day 6 or 7. I haven't played 7dtd in a while, kinda waiting for 17.1 to hit, as I know if I start a new game now, it'll prob hit in the middle and i'll need to restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Do you have the underlined things by day 3 (or even by day 7)? Do you build a new base at day 7 and 14 because your day 3 and 7 base is too small ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Do you build a new base at day 7 and 14 because your day 3 and 7 base is too small ? My horde base and my work base(s) haven't been the same thing for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Floater plates allowed? Logging out allowed? Is running around your base count for being hoard-safe? (who would risk so much stuff!) If your base is only Hordeproof if you log out you missed the point. I saw no vanilla floating plates that would be safer than massive ones If your base need to run arround in a circle i would say its worse than a normal base, but sure, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 You might wanna specify that you cannot take over a poi to do this. Good question, its not the core idea of the challenge, but i would accept it if you can find this poi nearly everywhere. Well i doubt such a poi exists - - - Updated - - - My horde base and my work base(s) haven't been the same thing for awhile. The idea is ONE base for startgame. Easy to build and suggestable as sollution for new players. we will see if a few people join and we get something nice together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldranon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The only thing not messing with the AI pathing would be if you can get zombies to miss hitting or not target a block because of some size or location of the blocks. A triple fall pit might work until strong zombies come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I dont say that Cheesing the AI would be forbidden, but a cheeseless base is better than a cheesy one. Btw (17.1 is not released so this cant be my contribution to this challenge) I made a 8x8x8 Massive block by using a rockformation to spare Blocks But for the moment i still stay at a bit cheese (got this trap from someones video) Its arround (i guess under) 500 blocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FileMachete Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 What about traps? Can make Wood Spikes & Barb Wire in backpack, but Day 3 would mean not very many, after digging 2000 clay & mining 2000 Stone. hmm.. how much Iron do you think that'd be, if you mined boulders for the 2k stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 When A17.1 is out i will make a testgame (vanilla) and look how the ressources look on day 3. But if we can agree that in such a 500 blocks Base the amount of iron and other rarer stuff should be low i guess thats not even necessary. For example i placed 12 Haybales. I didnt mentioned them but i guess if we include them into the block amounts nobody would encumber. I want it more a fun challenge, i would not encumber if someone say, i needed 512 Blocks. But if a other one make the same base with 490 Blocks without any drawbacks. well then i guess its clear who did better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 My early base looked a lot like Royal's. A bit wider, a bit lower, still well under 500 blocks but I upgraded to cobblestone as I got the material. Spikes as I got the wood for them. There is an entrance ramp but it's built so that zombies don't use it so no cheesecake required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Do you build a new base at day 7 and 14 because your day 3 and 7 base is too small ? First of all, I might. In the first A17 game that I played, I built a small bunker just to cook on the campfire and have my bed and a storage chest. I did not keep it for horde night. Second, I don't build all of those things in my horde base. Too valuable to have where they might be destroyed. (If they are close to my horde base, they are in a discrete section slightly away from my horde base.) As long as we're talking about beginners, how likely are they to have these workstations early game (i.e., in their starter base)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 ... As long as we're talking about beginners, how likely are they to have these workstations early game (i.e., in their starter base)? YOu are right, but this challenge make not much sense without these "necessitys". After the current hordenight i play i just build such a microbase with i guess less than 50 blocks. There will be not much variety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Found the time to make a Micro base The problem towards the topic is that you simply cant build a ramp based Micro base very different without many drawbacks (well the hole should be one block further away from the safe room) All you can do is a Maze based base. But i think there is no possibility to make a so small base more effective. Thats why i think the above mentioned "necessitys" spice the challenge up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I don't particularly care what qualifications you slap on your challenge. It's your challenge. I was only wondering why those qualifications needed to be part of a first-week horde base. I imagine you could get more creative submissions if those things (which often are extraneous to the first week) were removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxTeller718 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 challenge I do not think that word means what you think it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I've done this a few times, I'll get some screenshots at some point. But does it have to be that many blocks? I usually use way less for the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 I do not think that word means what you think it means. I guess i know what it means. But i dont want a hardcore Challenge with a jury and a 50 point long checklist. The task is to have one stack of weak blocks and make something nice with it. (well or 2 stacks of cobblestones for the nitpicker among us) The challenge is to make a better one than others --------------------------------------------------------------------------- and Jugginator, feel free to use so less blocks as you wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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