Kyonshi

But then what do you do if you wanna use the Sledgehammer? Use a Brawling build? Can anyone use the Auger with one hand while holding a torch, beside Arnie in his prime? tHuMbS dOwN

I choose to play a survival game but I don't wanna deal with the survival aspect. I wish the Pimps would give me stuff so I don't have to survive so hard in a survival game. Like I find it so excruciating to have to hunt for food or even easier, loot around. We should start with a full catering service waiting for us beside where we wake up when we start the game. Oh and speaking of which, why are we full nood?? Is it asking too much to have at least walk-in with appropriate clothing before I start eating my breakfast? And exploring... Omfg, this is the worst. I gotta WALK. Pimps, why the hell can't we have a pick-up service from the traders, to drive us around? Like Uber, but call it Trader instead. LeT mE pLaY tHe WaY i WaNt. I don't see why I should be forced to survive in a post-nuclear-pandemic apocalypse, with no remaining and functioning structures and systems, if I don't want to. Please fix the game according to my most remote desires. 🙏

Thank you for the nerf, Pimps! I love the ammo rebalance because even if play at 100% Loot, I'm not swimming in ammo like in previous alphas. I don't know how the hell people play to be submerged in bullets, but there's something they don't tell us, it just doesn't make sense. The ammo nerf for quest rewards was the first step and I'm glad I don't find 75 of them every time I turn around the corner.

Some people can't stand having their criticism of this game factually corrected by people who inform themselves properly. It's very strange. It's just the most normal thing to do to...just read. It's even easier when you're the official discussion board of the very developers of the game. But I observe that anything longer than the Twitter format of 140 characters is way too much for some people. I'm pretty active on the 7DTD PC group and I'm being called a "fanboy" more times that I can count, just because I adjust the inaccuracies that some morons spout about the game and the devs. It became a hobby to counter trolls with documented info and watch them lose their @%$# afterward 😄

Dont consider your point of view on the game as being a factual reference. Where you observe a ''problem'' isnt an issue for someone else. Its absolutely inaccurate to say crafting is useless because of the potential loot you get in that biome, as far as im concerned. Its not because it gives the highest loot bonus that everything level 6 falls in your hands from the heavens... You just play on Insane difficulty as i do to realize quite fast that 1) you definitely can't tackle on the Wasteland early on, and this is without feral sense being active, and 2) you realize that since you can't handle the hell that is this biome, you'll have to craft stuff by gathering resources and leveling up your skills in another biome in order to be ready for it.

I don't get you pal. You complain about a feature that does exactly what it's supposed to do. I dunno, it's like you expose yourself to rain and then complain you're wet and soaked. 🤷 Cities, whatever the biome, always have a higher spawn rate and count of zombies. The Wasteland has the highest of those, of all biomes. This was requested, actually. And then you have Feral Sense on. What were you actually expecting? It's simply the toughest biome. I guess your just bored being in end-game. I do loot runs in the Wasteland at Day 12 right now. I don't have Feral Sense on, but I play on Insane and I self-imposed a challenge of not using any melee weapons whatsoever. Im glad I didn't turn Feral on cuz it's pure @%$#ing hell. But I'm having a lot of fun! So I guess your situation is just peculiar. Maybe it's time to start another game with other settings and restrictions you put on yourself?

Bobby Kotick is for the moment staying in the seat, but I bet that's only for the transaction process. Once all the paperwork is done, I'm pretty convinced he'll get booted. Microsoft won't tolerate a lying scumbag like this in that top-end position.

The guy thinks he knows how to handle a game, that is not is own creation, better than the developers themselves... because he has lots of hours of play on it. 😆 I stopped reading when he said something about no real content was added, and that includes "slight changes" to POIs. Ok so he means that +140 new POIs, and more being added and worked on, isn't substantial content? Wow. Mind blowing. He just confirmed he doesn't know what he's talking about. At all. People sometimes complain that developers don't listen to their communities of players enough. There's legitimate reasons why and this guy is one of them. Fun Pimps, don't listen to those clueless people who take their opinions for facts and intent to dictate and lecture you about your creative and production process. I would dare advance that the vast majority of players understand that this game is still in developement and that content isn't yet fully integrated, as well as technical adjustments and improvements. Thank you for your hard work.

@Naz There could be a way to circumvent the long runway issue. You build the main airport facilities (assuming we're still talking about a local, single-runway airport and not international-type) on the largest tile available (or maybe a compound of tiles). Control tower, a terminal, a hangar. But you don't put the runway on the tiles. Instead, you program the RWG process to include the airport tiles by the side of a normal portion of road, that would actually imitate the runway. But that's just technically speaking. As I think about it, a small local airport would just be another commercial/industrial POI but with planes. I'd still be interested, but if we'd ever have an airport in the game, the only kind that would really be appealing and bound to make a difference would be an international size one. Maybe not like JFK, Hartfields-Jackson or O'Hare, but maybe LaGuardia? But anyways, it goes back to what we were saying that it would be to big and waste of space. Btw, your POIs are @%$#ing phenomenal! Kudos to you sir 👍

Adding to the technical issues this could bring, MadMole got a point, even if I'd love to have an airport added myself. But an international-type of airport would indeed be a huge waste of space because there would be nothing on the runways. Yeah of course you could add a crashed airplane (with probably nothing to loot anyways since it would be completely destroyed), but we would still be facing performance issues for the return we would get. A local airport though, that could be nice, pretty much like what already exists in the CompoPack.

Girls with big jugs have the right to be represented as much as any other size. The name's The Fun Pimps and one of their trademarks is the sexual innuendo all over Navezgane. Many of the shops names are very suggestive (Carpets Munchez, Dicks) and there's now a second stripclub, after we saw the Boobie Trap. Jen is also a model of inclusivity since she'll flirt with you whatever is the sex of your character. So she's at least bi. Rekt's probably a closet ace since its absolutely impossible to not wanna bang anyone in the apocalypse, at all. He just hates everyone, so he probably doesn't even feel the need to get some. There ya go. 7DTD has nothing offensive at all.

I hope the Pimps never listen to such annoying YouTubers like this [YouTuber] and push the game design further to pump up the challenge. The Pimps are not worse than any other developer and they don't think cheesing their game is the way to go. That's perfectly legitimate, id do the same. If they don't like what they're seeing, they will change things because if their game and they'll tailor it the way they want it. TC displays the most obvious and blatant example of monumental entitlement ever. The game isn't made for your pretty eyes only. If you're unhappy with the design the Pimps conduct, go play something else. It's like you're telling someone how to drive their car the way [you] want it while you're the passenger and not making the payments on it. Stfu, seriously. Hiding from the horde underground is the dumbest thing ever. If someone don't wanna deal with the hordes... just turn them off. And I stopped watching the video when he went "this game's in developement since 753 years...". This moronic argument is so old, it's deader than a dead horse. The better the mechanics of zombies are developed to get to us, the happier I will be. Keep up the good work Pimps.

Dude, stfu and leave. You drop in and whine that the A20 is awful and that the devs should do a "good" thing and revert to an inferior Alpha, after busting their asses during a year to actually put out an Alpha that factually made things better. All of this without actual arguments whatsoever. Are you right in the head? They reached a record peak of active players for this Alpha. Wow, that's surely because the game is bad. You have absolutely no solid idea of what you're talking about, period.

Pal, do a good thing and leave this discussion board. You're awful at trolling.

I usually change the number of zombies alive on the biomes and their respawn rate for days and nights, to have more. I also raise the amount of them in wandering hordes.

Wouldn't that be just the spear's power attack?

I'd expect someone with 1500+ hours on the game would know how to play it well. You just suck at planning and approching threats, this isnt the game's nor the Pimps fault. That's all. And going to a lesser A16 wont change the fact that you suck at it.

Its not because i mentioned "suspension of disbelief" that this is the excuse to put any @%$#ed concepts in the game... 🙄 Do you even understand what that means? The game is set in a specific frame : you evolve in a dystopian, post-apocalyptic world, where both a nuclear war and viral cataclysm occured. This resulted in the main threat you're facing, zombies, which are, at the best of our knowledge, reanimated corpses that underwent the process from either the viral outbreak, lab experiments or a combination of both. If you raid the Higashi Pharmaceutical POI, you'll know what im talking about. So, no, this isnt the Carebears and there wont be unicorns... Again, your point of view is interpretative and far from confirming anything wrong with the narrative thread of the game setting and story.

Well, that's just your opinion. The Pimps build a world that they wanted to see and into which some elements are interpreted the way they see fit. Also, suspension of disbelief doesnt hurt, it serves both game design and story setting. There's nothing to fix here. This is artistic design and this is at the discretion of the creators. Anything you listed in your post remains speculative. Nobody except Rick and Joel know what really happened to the world of 7DTD, Navezgane and the zombies that populate the area.

I'll take note of your hints if another issue happens, guys. For now, i simply did a complete wipe, of absolutely everything, took no chances. I resinstalled all of it and gave myself some turrets. Nothing wrong happened as i handled them in and out of my bag anymore. Thanks for your help nonetheless

I already tried. PasteBin wouldnt take the logfile because it was too big and JustPaste was frozen and not responding... shrug. So i just copied the section of the file that showed the bug happening.

The file was way too long, so i posted the part when the Blood Moon started. The part in bold is the same that repeated an awful long time, when the bug happened. 2021-12-18T19:50:37 11449.781 INF BloodMoon starting for day 5 2021-12-18T19:50:37 11449.785 INF Party of 1, game stage 19, enemy max 54, bonus every 12 2021-12-18T19:50:37 11449.785 INF Party members: 2021-12-18T19:50:37 11449.785 INF Player id 1683, gameStage 19 2021-12-18T19:50:37 11449.796 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 1, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 1, zombieJoe, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:00 2021-12-18T19:50:38 11450.820 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 2, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 2, zombieJanitor, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:00 2021-12-18T19:50:40 11451.821 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 3, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 3, zombieNurse, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:00 2021-12-18T19:50:40 11452.385 INF Time: 168.36m FPS: 56.04 Heap: 3881.9MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 7 Ent: 10 (63) Items: 1 CO: 3 RSS: 2843.8MB 2021-12-18T19:50:41 11452.829 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 4, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 4, zombieYo, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:01 2021-12-18T19:50:42 11453.872 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 5, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 5, zombieSteve, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:01 2021-12-18T19:50:43 11454.880 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 6, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 6, zombieDarlene, loot 0.5, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:01 2021-12-18T19:50:43 11455.655 INF Saving 103 of chunks took 79ms 2021-12-18T19:50:53 11465.056 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 7, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 7, zombiePartyGirl, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:02 2021-12-18T19:50:54 11466.099 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 8, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieYo, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:02 2021-12-18T19:50:58 11469.995 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 + 0) 2021-12-18T19:50:58 11469.995 INF 909324 VehicleManager write #0, id 2313, vehicleBicycle, (1099.0, 43.0, -570.2), chunk 68, -36 2021-12-18T19:50:58 11469.999 INF VehicleManager saved 502 bytes 2021-12-18T19:51:09 11481.617 INF Entity zombiePartyGirl 2518 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:51:11 11483.444 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 9, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieDarlene, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:08 2021-12-18T19:51:19 11491.571 INF Time: 168.86m FPS: 53.95 Heap: 3928.3MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 16 (69) Items: 1 CO: 2 RSS: 2850.8MB 2021-12-18T19:51:29 11501.571 INF Entity zombieNurse 2514 killed 2021-12-18T19:51:32 11503.955 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 10, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieNurse, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:15 2021-12-18T19:51:48 11520.060 INF DroneManager saving 0 (0 + 0) 2021-12-18T19:51:48 11520.064 INF DroneManager saved 9 bytes 2021-12-18T19:51:49 11521.577 INF Time: 169.36m FPS: 58.90 Heap: 3990.3MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 15 (72) Items: 3 CO: 2 RSS: 2859.3MB 2021-12-18T19:51:53 11525.386 INF Entity zombieSteve 2516 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:51:55 11527.500 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 11, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieYo, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:24 2021-12-18T19:52:09 11541.398 INF Entity zombieJoe 2512 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:52:12 11543.901 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 12, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:29 2021-12-18T19:52:19 11551.579 INF Time: 169.86m FPS: 66.32 Heap: 3855.1MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 15 (72) Items: 1 CO: 2 RSS: 2720.2MB 2021-12-18T19:52:29 11561.228 INF Entity zombieDarlene 2517 killed 2021-12-18T19:52:31 11563.390 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 13, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieArlene, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:36 2021-12-18T19:52:32 11564.121 INF Entity zombieYo 2524 killed 2021-12-18T19:52:32 11564.399 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 14, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieMarlene, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:36 2021-12-18T19:52:33 11565.651 INF Entity zombieJanitor 2513 killed 2021-12-18T19:52:34 11566.451 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 15, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBoe, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:37 2021-12-18T19:52:39 11571.123 INF Entity zombieDarlene 2520 killed 2021-12-18T19:52:39 11571.602 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 16, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:39 2021-12-18T19:52:40 11572.623 INF Entity zombieNurse 2523 killed 2021-12-18T19:52:41 11573.653 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 17, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieYo, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:40 2021-12-18T19:52:47 11579.269 INF Entity zombieArlene 2528 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:52:49 11580.841 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 18, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieJanitor, loot 0.5, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:42 2021-12-18T19:52:49 11581.589 INF Time: 170.36m FPS: 67.35 Heap: 3895.3MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 18 (80) Items: 3 CO: 3 RSS: 2806.3MB 2021-12-18T19:52:58 11590.005 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 + 0) 2021-12-18T19:52:58 11590.006 INF 916760 VehicleManager write #0, id 2313, vehicleBicycle, (1099.0, 43.0, -570.2), chunk 68, -36 2021-12-18T19:52:58 11590.009 INF VehicleManager saved 502 bytes 2021-12-18T19:53:08 11600.063 INF Entity zombieYo 2515 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:53:09 11601.399 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 19, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieUtilityWorker, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:49 2021-12-18T19:53:19 11611.585 INF Time: 170.86m FPS: 54.78 Heap: 3853.5MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 16 (81) Items: 3 CO: 3 RSS: 2840.5MB 2021-12-18T19:53:30 11622.431 INF Entity zombieJanitor 2533 killed 2021-12-18T19:53:31 11622.991 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 20, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieDarlene, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:57 2021-12-18T19:53:34 11626.208 INF Entity zombieBusinessMan 2531 killed 2021-12-18T19:53:35 11627.005 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 21, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:58 2021-12-18T19:53:35 11627.266 INF Entity zombieYo 2532 killed 2021-12-18T19:53:35 11627.628 INF Entity zombieBoe 2530 killed 2021-12-18T19:53:37 11629.047 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 22, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 7, zombieUtilityWorker, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:59 2021-12-18T19:53:38 11630.105 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 0 feralHordeStageGS16 (count 23, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieNurse, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 22:59 2021-12-18T19:53:48 11640.072 INF DroneManager saving 0 (0 + 0) 2021-12-18T19:53:48 11640.076 INF DroneManager saved 9 bytes 2021-12-18T19:53:49 11641.593 INF Time: 171.36m FPS: 72.94 Heap: 3877.3MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 18 (87) Items: 5 CO: 2 RSS: 2832.4MB 2021-12-18T19:53:59 11651.019 INF Entity zombieDarlene 2537 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:00 11652.753 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 1, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieArlene, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:07 2021-12-18T19:54:11 11663.422 INF Entity zombieUtilityWorker 2534 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:12 11663.997 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 2, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:11 2021-12-18T19:54:14 11666.419 INF Entity zombieYo 2519 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:14 11666.575 INF Entity zombieUtilityWorker 2540 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:15 11667.120 INF Entity zombieNurse 2541 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:16 11668.109 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 3, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 7, zombieJoe, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:13 2021-12-18T19:54:17 11669.141 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 4, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 7, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:13 2021-12-18T19:54:18 11670.147 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 5, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieMoe, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:13 2021-12-18T19:54:19 11671.602 INF Time: 171.86m FPS: 56.77 Heap: 3951.1MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 23 (94) Items: 7 CO: 6 RSS: 2836.8MB 2021-12-18T19:54:33 11685.563 INF Entity zombieBusinessMan 2538 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:35 11687.744 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 6, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieBusinessMan, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:20 2021-12-18T19:54:40 11692.623 INF Entity zombieBusinessMan 2544 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:42 11693.843 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 7, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieJoe, loot 0.5, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:22 2021-12-18T19:54:43 11694.875 INF Entity zombieArlene 2543 killed 2021-12-18T19:54:45 11696.941 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 8, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieUtilityWorker, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:23 2021-12-18T19:54:49 11701.603 INF Time: 172.36m FPS: 64.56 Heap: 3887.7MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 252 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 21 (97) Items: 7 CO: 4 RSS: 2844.7MB 2021-12-18T19:54:58 11710.013 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 + 0) 2021-12-18T19:54:58 11710.013 INF 924602 VehicleManager write #0, id 2313, vehicleBicycle, (1099.0, 43.0, -570.2), chunk 68, -36 2021-12-18T19:54:58 11710.017 INF VehicleManager saved 502 bytes 2021-12-18T19:55:19 11731.630 INF Time: 172.86m FPS: 55.28 Heap: 3953.2MB Max: 4103.7MB Chunks: 480 CGO: 243 Ply: 1 Zom: 12 Ent: 19 (97) Items: 7 CO: 3 RSS: 2789.7MB 2021-12-18T19:55:40 11752.475 INF Entity zombieJoe 2551 killed by Kyonshi 1683 2021-12-18T19:55:42 11754.649 INF BloodMoonParty: SpawnZombie grp 1 feralHordeStageGS19 (count 9, numToSpawn 27, maxAlive 8), cnt 8, zombieJanitor, loot 0.02, at player 1683, day/time 5 23:43 2021-12-18T19:55:47 11759.770 ERR [XUi] Error while updating window group 'backpack: 2021-12-18T19:55:47 11759.777 EXC Object reference not set to an instance of an object at ItemActionEntryRepair.RefreshEnabled () [0x000e1] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemActionEntry.set_ItemActionEntry (BaseItemActionEntry value) [0x0010d] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemActionList.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0003d] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_InfoWindow.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x00000] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemInfoWindow.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x00000] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUi.OnUpdateDeltaTime (System.Single updateDeltaTime) [0x00131] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 UnityEngine.StackTraceUtility:ExtractStringFromException(Object) Log:Exception(Exception) XUi:OnUpdateDeltaTime(Single) XUiUpdater:Update() XUiUpdateHelper:LateUpdate() 2021-12-18T19:55:48 11759.824 ERR [XUi] Error while updating window group 'backpack: 2021-12-18T19:55:48 11759.825 EXC Object reference not set to an instance of an object at ItemActionEntryRepair.RefreshEnabled () [0x000e1] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemActionEntry.set_ItemActionEntry (BaseItemActionEntry value) [0x0010d] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemActionList.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0003d] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_InfoWindow.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x00000] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiC_ItemInfoWindow.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x00000] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUiController.Update (System.Single _dt) [0x0004f] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 at XUi.OnUpdateDeltaTime (System.Single updateDeltaTime) [0x00131] in <e905376b19ea4fabb0377334749ef142>:0 UnityEngine.StackTraceUtility:ExtractStringFromException(Object) Log:Exception(Exception) XUi:OnUpdateDeltaTime(Single) XUiUpdater:Update() XUiUpdateHelper:LateUpdate()

Ok i read about the logfile. Do i need to post the whole file or i could just post the moment the glitch happened?

Pardon me but i suck at IT stuff. How can i get this file?

I had this happening during A19 as well, so i stopped using any turret of those two types. I had hopes of this being fixed in A20 but nope, just happened right now. I see all of those lines in red when i select a turret from my bag inventory and i cant see said inventoy either. Getting out of the game wont work either: i gotta kill it in the task manager. There's nothing else i can do while the turret is in my bag, that ''glicth'' will keep occuring. This is basically game-breaking. I have absolutely no idea what the hell is happening and why it happens with turrets only. I also havent found anything about a similar issue from someone else. I use no major mods, except those small ones : IceBurg_Proper_Repair_Kits, TSBX_noADScrosshair and War3zuk HD Katanas. Note that it happened before i used those 3 mods.