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I agree. There’s several great UMA “zed packs” (all server side safe ones too!) and I personally feel Without this ability to easily mod in different looking zeds using pure XML, the game takes quite a hit for long term enjoyment/replay. I’m all for the vanilla game having nice zed/entity models (and I will forever continue to grump about not having enough vanilla entity variability) but to require the same level of (non UMA type) effort to add new zeds from modders modding in their spare time is really going to hurt the fans of the game IMHO. Leave the UMA in! I thought I did see some post about TFP making their own UMA (whatever that means). If it acts/works the same, then great!

New Mod Added: Modlet: Doughs-Food-SousChefOfTheApocalypse-ClientIcons - Adds client side custom icons to Doughs-Food-SousChefOfTheApocalypse. Is this mod server side safe?: No, it contains custom icons The purpose is to "beautify" Doughs-Food-SousChefOfTheApocalypse, which is a server side safe mod while keeping it a server safe mod. It is also to prepare/package the graphics (crosses fingers) for the day when mod icons are sent from the server to the client, and at tat time the graphics will be merged into the parent mod.

I use bricks, but I also almost always make my base in a concrete building, usually a stairwell. Bricks are “craft while doing something else” and I don’t need a lot. It’s basically “base 1.0” until I have a better plan for where I’m at or want to be. I consider wood blocks to be the most useless (protection wise, though cheap to make) unless you want to build a base “from scratch” and not take over a POI (early game). I do think the block “system” in gnamod is superior to the vanilla game (in terms of gameplay, maybe not fun potential) There’s no “upgrading” a block to a higher tier material, but you can “upgrade” once to a higher grade/hardness of the same material. And most blocks require a drying time like concrete today. So when you put blocks down, if you want to upgrade them, you have to rip them out. This makes you plan things out more and early game more chaotic as you don’t have materials to do what you want and have to improvise. additionally: it uses “blueprints” for every block type in the place of frames. Imagine frames you can’t stand on, you just walk through. This is neat so you can plan things out… and nerdpoling is much more work, and you can’t put down a blueprint, jump up/down, and pull it up behind you to escape zeds. one more thing: I have some mods that add materials to make blocks. One adds nails to have to “nail frames together” so you can’t build a large structure from wood frames, another adds mortar to have to make cobblestones. These seem (to me) to balance out the block crafting difficulty so you’re not swimming in cheap/durable blocks. I would welcome these changes to the vanilla game. I think concrete needs to be harder to craft if there’s not an upgrade to steel. also: seems like there should be a “sandstone” and “Adobe” blocks in the game… no?

I don’t know the answer, but I’m guessing it does occur when in solo, just doesn’t pop up while in game but pops up when the game loads? my guess is that if you posted your solo game log file the error would be in there, but an option would be to Try starting up your solo game with the mods. As soon as you choose the game and “start” it, where you get the screen where it’s giving you game tips while it loads, hit F1 and the console will pop up. You might see the same error in red or yellow occur.

These aren’t icons in my Sous Chef mod as it doesn’t add new icons, it just reuses existing ones. It looks like another food mod I have helped update though in the past (it looks like it’s this one: https://7daystodiemods.com/more-vanilla-foods-drinks/). The only way that the icons would be missing (normally, assuming that mod has not been broken) is: are you playing single player or joining a game? If you are joining a game that has this mod you also need to have that mod loaded on your system, as the icons from a joined game are not sent to the clients/joining systems. if you have loaded this mod (I linked above) and the icons are still missing, then maybe it’s a version mismatch or there’s actually an issue the mod authors is unaware of. The authors mod post is here: if you’re unable to get it working let me know as I can do some testing and validate if there is an issue or not with the mod or something else. Sometimes these things take a bit of work to nail down what’s causing it

There’s this: https://7daystodiemods.com/enzombies-more-zombie-variations/ additionally, some of the creature packs have animals or humans. You don’t have to load them all (the robots, etc): https://7daystodiemods.com/creature-packs-a-community-entity-project/

my guess: First, some statements: 1. I believe a fish was once spotted in the water in a previous version of the game. Of course, this might be BS and just a joke/fake someone posted once. 2. There IS a shark model in the game Based on the above, my complete and total guess is: TFP put the shark in as a "test model" OR as some odd way to keep people from from hiding in the water to keep zombies away from you... or maybe to make swimming 'dangerous'... much like using the gyrocopter (you're mostly safe) and having vultures (you can be attacked in the air if you're close to the ground). In the current game zeds can swim so you're not safe in the water (under most conditions). So: I'm guessing TFP considered putting things in the water to attack you, and the "possible spotting of a fish" in the water may be part of this (or not) BUT from a technical perspective, and how the game has been progressing, I'm guessing there are no visible swimming fish because: - You cannot normally see into the water unless you are in it - The fish would just be burning up "animal counts" and causing resources to be used for something you'll likely never see - TFP has not added "fishing" to the game yet, and it seems (based on this forum) they don't intend to HOWEVER: - There are some fishing mods, but all of them are "cast into the water and catch a fish". There are no actual fish in the water though: https://7daystodiemods.com/?s=fish - There is this "A Better Life" mod that adds fish and butterflies, etc but I don't think you can "fish" for them. and its for a18 and I don't believe works in a19?:

I know this has kinda turned into a "is this really an issue or not" but, I'll throw in some data for anyone who is legitimately trying to play the game on an old sprouted potato of a PC: I had a non gaming windows laptop (very old and flimsy/sad) that would not play 7D2D (literally crashed after a few minutes at 1 FPS or lower, on lowest graphics settings I could do) but it would play Factorio.... so it was just a "my laptop is way underpowered" issue for 7D2D. I reinstalled windows one day (figured I'd clean house but still needed Windows for 2 apps I use rarely, and Steam;) ) and magically I could play 7D2D on lowest settings! and by "play" I mean: barely..but not *nearly* as bad as before. But the graphics were so bad vs my "gaming PC" its still not worth playing on this system. So the game was likely hampered quite a bit by the terrible specs of my PC but also by: - Bloat on the PC from years of apps being installed, that load their own services and use up CPU/memory, etc. - A driver/graphics thing or something obscure that just needed resetting.

Summary: My best guess is this: If you have loaded any of the mods below I have looked at/guessed at, then its likely your son has found and read the book "Art of Mining Vol 1" and you have not. Once you find and read this book, you will likely be able to find brass when mining the same boulders. If you do not have this book already read for your character, and your son has this would make some sense. If you want to prove this is what is happening with whatever mods you have loaded, and wanted to cheat a little vs finding/buying the book, you can go into the games cheat menu and give yourself the book and read it. I don't believe you can "take it back" though so once its read its read forever for your character. Details: I can't load the mod launcher because I'm not using windows... and all the mods I'm finding indicate "18.4" game compatibility, but some other things indicate a19 compatibility, so maybe the mod author(s)/maintainers are not updating the ModInfo.xml data for a19? It *looks* like the mod name is "Harvestable Brass". Here's a link to it: https://7daystodiemods.com/harvestable-brass/ which says its for "alpha 18" of the game. BUT! this leads to this forum here: Which then leads to here; https://gitlab.com/army.bratt44/mods which then says "Unforgiven and tonys Brass From bolders"...which may be a different mod...but says the game version is "18.4" even though the gitlab "commit notes" indicate alpha 19 compatibility ANYWAY: It you look at the mod, its 1 blocks.xml file, which has this in it: <blocks> <append xpath="/blocks/block [@name='terrOreIron']"> <drop event="Harvest" name="resourceScrapBrass" prob="1.07" count="50" tag="artOfMiningLuckyStrikeHarvest" /> </append> </blocks> which seems to indicate that the "brass harvestability" from iron boulders is linked to the "Art of Mining" perk trees, "Lucky StrikeHarvest" which appears to be given to you when reading the book "Art of Mining Vol 1" HOWEVER! I found another mod called "Brass from Biomes" that has the same author(s) but is different, internally. It also says "18.4" compatible but has more "in the mod" so its likely a newer mod? anyway, it has similar logic in it except the "brass from ore" icon looks like a goldish/brassy ore blob (the kind you can only smelt in the forge to then get the brass as a crafting item), whereas the other mod uses the standard 'brass" in the vanilla game...

I also have this error/issue in my single player game that's causing the exact same issues a LOT, so my game is essentially unplayable. I'm loading way too many mods (I know the dangers and I accept them) but it seems this issue appears to have a fix of "1 Corrupeted Custom Prefab, remove 1 prefab !!!" and maybe some other "fix /repair the map" commands... I'm totally ignorant in how to do these steps"of "remove prefab and delete chunk map part from server saved folder".. 1. find the corrupted POI(s)... maybe I just assume/guess its the one I'm standing in when it occurs (yes, also my horde base). I believe this is a vanilla POI, but maybe its not as I have compopack loaded, so maybe someone took a vanilla POI and modded it... 2. Remove the POI somehow 3. Do whatever else is needed ("delete chunk map part from server saved folder", etc). how does one determine the chunk? Can someone link to the commands(s) or steps I need to try to run these fixes? If I lose my game, I'm fine with that I really just wanted to try to fix it if I could and possibly identify the "bad POI's" and manually remove them, regen another map, start over, etc if I have to. Also my assumption: If the POI is my horde base, I should probably get all my stuff out of it and move elsewhere before blowing away map chunks. what's "hilarious" is I have 2 bases that are in identical POI's (kismet I guess? )... so I guess I have to blow away both my bases!

NOOoOoooooooOoooooooo…… I love that stupid blunderbuss. Mostly. Sometimes. mostly because it’s big and chunky and goes “BOOOOM arf arf” when your shoot it. sometimes because I usually have to go “oh good gawd I forgot to load the blunderbuss! zombies, you just wait up for a minute and let me get ready!” I “vote” it (any removed weapons?) should be a special item like the Taza axe and found super rarely. I mean, if we’re always cutting things down to a minimum why not “chop” the special axe and special loot chest only it is found in? /s #FindingBlunderbussesButOnlySometimesFanClub

Also: just glancing at your log file, there are also errors and warnings there. Some examples refer to DMT issues (these may be DMT mods that may need DMT. I can’t help with this as I never use DMT stuff (my system cannot use them). other examples are multiple lines referring to ERR block …posters as well as paintings . To me this likely is because you have added multiple mods that have posters and painting blocks (like for decor) and they are both using the same block names. So also try removing some/one as well. The log doesn’t say which mods they come from also seeing some colliding/duplicate loot ids, which means 2 (or more?) mods made a loot container and used the same ID. I don’t think the log nor the console output shows how to fix this. The only way I know how to do it is to do a file level search of the loot id and find all of the “loot.xml” files that have it then either : remove the mod(s)you want to remove with the loot ids that were in that loot.xml file, leaving only 1 of those mods or literally try to modify the loot ids (and their references). I don’t recommend the latter option unless you just personally do not want to remove a colliding mod.

I looked at your mod list and nothing jumped out as an “ah ha!” that was incompatible with something I’m aware of. I was mostly looking for an overhaul mod being loaded, and I don’t see any. I’ve run games with over 100 mods and it’s true that this is asking for trouble. Usually I have to make changes to some of the mods if I really want them, or I remove ones with lots of issues. I have a small piece of advice: when loading any mods, when the game first starts up (like when it’s doing the “tips” loading screen) hit F1 and the console will pop up and you can watch the game load. It’s all guesses and experience from here, but if you see a lot of red or yellow go by and it looks like it’s all from 1 mod, remove that mod first and then shut down the game (all the way to steam) and start over. Basically this will weed out the “worst offenders” of either not being compatible with your game version, or that is having issues with other mods. It doesn’t mean that mod is bad, just it had errors when loaded with some other mods. Also: not all yellow/red lines in the console output are bad, and with a lot of mods it will happen. also: as I understand it, the reason mods can have issues with each other (and the game) is because there is no mechanism in the mods for a mod (or mod author) to restrict the mod to only load in a game that it is compatible with, not is there a way to be able to make a list of mods not compatible with it, and have the game use that. And most mod authors (I believe) don’t test if their mods are compatible with “everything”, they just write the mod and put it out there. So even if a mod has issues, it may be because it was only written for a certain version of the game (and not updated) or it simply modded a small thing that another mod also tried to mod.

First: please post your games error log (everyone asks for it when there are game issues, and it will also show all the mods you loaded) Second: my guess for the loot Id errors is that some of the mods are colliding with each other, and the game is trying to populate the loot ids and they no longer exist (because of mods). Not all mods are compatible with each other. im not familiar with KingGen and how it handles mods that have content (like prefabs, etc) that would require a new world generation to be placed, but maybe that’s the map issue and the loot id error issue is separate. Hard to tell at this point.

And the graphics for the hiker skin and terrain is very nice! It looks so real! I can’t wait! (Probably should have included that above pic and not just left this as a bare comment/joke, just in case…)

A question: Once a prefab(s) are submitted for this pack/collection, is "maintenance" of the POI also "handed off" or are the POI creators still responsible for keeping the POI maintained (like if a20 makes block changes, or anything that may make a POI render with errors/etc)? I ask because I have a few published in a mod (they need some tuning) and I have some "unpublished" ones I'm still working on.

This may sound cheesy but.... I had a lot of 'old junk" that was more for tinkering than useful. Basically I feel better knowing I'm learning on something that's basically trash vs. spending money tearing something new up. And I had some stuff that was old 'hobbies" I was never going to get back into but I couldn't throw away because "it was still good stuff...hardly used!" Anyway: My solution, should anyone want some ideas: 1. Give away/donate what you can to people who might actually want it (not just dump it on the salvation army). Of course sell what you can if its really, truly high dollar. 2. Take pictures of your junk..wait...not... that's not what I mean. Literally just take pictures and put them in "the picture collection" whatever you use. Take as much as you want, obviously. You'll likely never look at them again, but somehow it "stores" them in your brain as "not completely gone" and you can still show people the stuff if it ever comes up... so its easier to throw out the physical stuff. 3. For everything else you can't throw out (sentimental junk): either display it somehow as "decor" or carefully pack it into a box and label the box with the date you packed it and contents. put it in a closet or something. If you don't open it, when/if you move homes you can choose to take it or not. Eventually it will seem silly to keep it. Or your house will burn down with the box in it. Then: After you're done, treat yourself and buy something new, like a system that can play 7D2D at full graphics settings at 60+ FPS . Even get a new keyboard, monitor, the works...Not trying to be a jerk, just saying "you deserve this!"

I kinda wonder this too. I would figure that the XML can be edited to be “any number” of hours (like 73) and it’s a list so you can add “infinite choices” (probably some limit internally) so I’m guessing that there’s some reason why they want a certain list of numbers. Maybe there’s math being used with these numbers and hey, these are decent numbers to use so they made these the results… but… the list only determines what’s selectable in the UI…. So why not just make it a scrolling wheel or a field you type in any number and then enforce 10 minute increments, with a min of 10 and a max of 240 (per info posted above about danger going over this) The “game difficulty”setting can change it to recommended time settings or something. Yeah. It would be nice if there was a trader settings for prices/amounts before game starts, like there is for loot %. I heard that there were plans for “factions” or something similar so maybe a trader would like you more or less depending on something. This would be a neat mechanic to add to quests so if you accepted a job and took a long time (maybe have timed quests as an option for some so they’re not all timed) the trader would hate you more and prices would go up, with a high ceiling and if you were fast they go down a little but not infinitely down. Maybe more items too. Etc. I personally think it would be fun if you had a “great” standing with a trader the trader would stay open longer for you (you could still open the door, but other players who had less standing would not be able to trade if they followed you in, just you, so you’d have to barter for others if you wanted.) and if you had @%$#ed off the trader then they won’t even open the door for you, possibly even shooting at you . Maybe make it a perma ban from the trader for just you (I.e. no timeout for just you, the person who angered them)

Yes, but I was thinking of “if you can trigger it remotely, then you don't have to mess with “what is a safe range” and make timers as what is “time to be safely away” probably differs a lot from person to person. To me remote detonations are a little less exciting than having to run in fear of something you lit and threw , but would be cool for safes, or maybe PvP?

I think there may have been a modder who had a “remote detonator” mod for something. It may have been back in a17 or a18. I’ll see if I can find it, or, if anyone here remembers it please post a link. Odds are it was a DMT mod so if it it that’s beyond what I can do as I have not messed with DMT code

I’m glad you asked. ive actually made them as well as buffing the exploding arrows (all unpublished and old game versions).. I have done grenades and pipe bombs (on my mods page) and I usually tier them so they have some below “vanilla item” (easy to make early game) and some above “vanilla item” (later game). I might see if I can resurrect them. It’s really satisfying to shoot the exploding arrows and have them powerful enough to break glass Windows and window coverings around it. I had some “Diablo” rockets that I had that were dangerous to shoot as they didn’t travel far (they were “heavy”) and they were like the grenade, but more meant to destroy POis/bases if you weren’t careful with them. But I had people complain about my “heavy” pipe bombs as they tended to get you killed because throwing them was harder I did that on purpose as I wanted using them to be very calculated

I have sever “more damaging weapons” mods here: doughs modlets but specifically what you might be looking for is something like this (which is on that page): Khelldon-HolyHandGrenade there are some other weapons that have damage like that grenade, I think on Nexusmods I saw one that used the grenade launcher. for what it’s worth, from my experiences, any explosion basically only destroys “the blocks that it can touch” so you don’t usually get nice deep round holes in the ground. Sometimes it may go 2 blocks deep. This means to get the most bang for your buck, when aiming at pois, try to aim through a window so it goes off inside. Otherwise the first shot just takes the outside wall down. another option maybe to lower the block health or stability. I recently released a “nerf block stability” mod (on my same mod page above) and what happens (it seems) is that most buildings, when finally compromised, either “hollow out” or half the building falls. This might make a more destructive weapon feel more powerful as it will take down more things easily, without having to crank up the weapon damage/radius which can be dangerous for your character. Additionally, a large radius can generally a lot of lag and it seems a falling POi generates less lag for some reason. And a smaller radius is less dangerous to you. Anyway, be warned the HolyHandGrenade has a large radius, but can be made larger if you wanted to change the mod as I actually turned the radius down from the original due to complaints from people about the lag.

Will the mod load on the server side if it cannot find a reference for the tank model? The xml will be pointing to it, no? If it can load the mod but errors out on the tank model, then I could see it working.

I am interested in this answer, as I was thinking of making some of my mods into 2 parts: part 1: the server side safe mod. Icons are just recoloring of existing items, etc part 2: the “client side” icons. as I understand it, the “xml for the game” will come from the game server, meaning *any* client side mods will not be loaded/activated if you are connected to a separate game server. To me this means that even if you had the #2 mod loaded only on the client, it would not be processed when joining a server. I believe this is because if the client can change the xml definitions a server sends, it could make all sorts of changes, like making a hat worth 10,000 duke’s or a gun have 10,000 damage. you asked about icons, but, it’s the same issue as the XML mod will not have its icons referenced in the server side xml. And if the server side XMl does reference the icons, then if the client doesn’t have them the ricin’s will be blank… but… a curiosity: what if the icons/models in the client side mod are named identical to the vanilla game? Like “resourceWood” in a client mod that was not loaded on the server side was the image of a clown? Would it take effect then (meaning the client side mod does load some things, but will not overwrite server sent XML). I would love any answers to this and I think this may be very similar/identical to what you’re also asking? I have not tested this, so I’m not 100% sure.

“more likely”, but nothing definite, from what I’ve been reading on the forums, based on people theorizing that TFP wouldn’t let a year go by without an update, etc. but there’s also a lot of people constantly reminding everyone that no date has been set and it’s all unofficial as TFP now never sets a date (or officially publicizes it) as they don’t want backlash for skipping the date. And this too. I think? Quantum anything can be true, false, or any state in between, or even multiple states at once? Maybe it’s possible some time from Now and in the future they’ll release it, but also simultaneously and in all possible timelines, not release it . I would also guess it’s possible (through this quantum informational state) it has already been released, but no one is sure about it 100%. I guess you can know with certainty it’s position (when it is released) or it’s state (if it’s released or not) but never both at the same time?