Feycat Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I mean that literally. Spouse is playing the heavy armor/punchy style and I'm in military armor and a spear, poking zombies or shooting from behind him. This has been our playstyle division for many alphas now. But in A21 the zombies seem to push/clip into him. He's been pushed into walls (like we've had to destroy several cement blocks to free him,) through floors and up into the air when low-reaching zombies push him up and get behind him. This seems new to us, has anyone else noticed this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Well... they did name the new AI system Karen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feycat Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 ...I don't even know if that's a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Just now, Feycat said: ...I don't even know if that's a joke lol Considering the source, I'd say it's a joke So I haven't noticed the zeds doing this, but I have noticed getting stuck in blocks in general, which I don't really remember happening to me prior to A21. It seems easily reproduceable if you open a door into yourself and are standing in the wrong spot, but I have gotten stuck in other places. I mean I try to play an honest game for the most part but I always have cheats enabled to deal with the inevitable bugs in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feycat Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 I just got shoved off a counter and onto another Z's head while we were clearing Two Bit so yeah. First time it's happened to me but between my spear and gun I don't usually let them get that close! 2 hours ago, Krougal said: Considering the source, I'd say it's a joke This is what happens when a dev team and the players are equally memed, it would not *surprise* me if someone named a pushy zed AI "Karen" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Yeah this has been spotted and has an open ticket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2n1 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 After the zombie gets hit, it starts an animation of movement towards the player, as if making a lunge in his direction, thereby pushing him through the texture in some cases. Just a bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 1:00 AM, Feycat said: I just got shoved off a counter and onto another Z's head while we were clearing Two Bit so yeah. First time it's happened to me but between my spear and gun I don't usually let them get that close! This is what happens when a dev team and the players are equally memed, it would not *surprise* me if someone named a pushy zed AI "Karen" Oh, no, I meant Maharin in particular. Found this old gem of a reply today: On 8/24/2022 at 6:49 PM, BFT2020 said: Nobody has to summon you. We just need to leave opportunities for you to come in and give us another bad pun 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Great_Sephiroth Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, The_Great_Sephiroth said: My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again. Yeah, absolutely hate that. Since Feycat posted this, I have been more aware of it, and the pushing is noticeable when you are looking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Krougal said: Oh, no, I meant Maharin in particular. Found this old gem of a reply today: I drop those odd pearls of wisdom every now and then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rateds2k Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 16 hours ago, The_Great_Sephiroth said: My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again. I kinda like this, makes the game less predictable. I always thought the crawlers should drag their body's faster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, rateds2k said: I kinda like this, makes the game less predictable. I always thought the crawlers should drag their body's faster Keep going, they should be running with them arms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Adam the Waster said: Keep going, they should be running with them arms If half a body was running on its arms toward you in real life... how would you react? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Maharin said: If half a body was running on its arms toward you in real life... how would you react? @%$# my pants 👖 I'm talking like the deadspace leapers when they run at you, imagine being in a building a it's about to turn night and you see Mr crawler drag himself then at 22:00 BOOM he starts scuttling and trys his best to eat your ankles Plus it would look cool seeing his organs jiggle when he runs at you *giggity* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Maharin said: If half a body was running on its arms toward you in real life... how would you react? Ha! Tis but a flesh wound! Hold still! I'll bite your ankles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphon583 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 6:47 PM, The_Great_Sephiroth said: My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again. This isn't new to A21. The crawling mechanic was added in A20 and has been the bane of many players' existence ever since. While I like the mechanic in general, the execution of it leaves something to be desired. IMO, their crawling speed should be reduced slightly and there needs to be a more deliberate animation between standing and crawling and vice versa. This "pop goes the weasel" behavior is really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feycat Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Syphon583 said: This isn't new to A21. The crawling mechanic was added in A20 and has been the bane of many players' existence ever since. While I like the mechanic in general, the execution of it leaves something to be desired. IMO, their crawling speed should be reduced slightly and there needs to be a more deliberate animation between standing and crawling and vice versa. This "pop goes the weasel" behavior is really annoying. The big problem with this is the hit boxes. I'd be much more ok with the sudden crawl if their hit boxes didn't go so wonky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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