PoloPoPo Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) My hordebase design, a small "tower" with ladders on all sides on it. I was standing on top of the "tower" but the zombies did not climb up to me. Instead they stayed on the ground beating my blocks. Any idea why they did not climb up the ladders? Two or three did climb up to me when I was hanging somewhere in the middle of the ladder beating down on them. The cobblestone ladders are from the wooden frame shape menu, the wooden ladder is actually a "real" ladder. Zombies didn't use any of them and I have no idea why. Edited December 30, 2021 by PoloPoPo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) The AI with ladders is in flux, it was pretty borked at the start of the experimental, and it was just recently changed some more. Expect more changes in the near future, but at the moment (b238 included) they seem to only use ladders if there's a roof on top of the ladder. Games4kickz on youtube has a couple videos about the issue. Basically, you need to add a block anywhere above the ladder, high enough that the zed will fit under it of course. Edited December 30, 2021 by theFlu (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoloPoPo Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 That is ridiculous but it works. Thank you 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 No problem.. Ridiculous, for sure, but it's clearly just a bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, theFlu said: No problem.. Ridiculous, for sure, but it's clearly just a bug No, TFP want to remove another play style. I'm sure of it since I have my tin hat on while typing this. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagas Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 So backwards from A19, I used a ladder tower horde base with a cat walk to where I standing, I had to make sure nothing was above the ladders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, meganoth said: No, TFP want to remove another play style. True, they managed to remove any need for cheesing ladder systems; no more having to remove the bottom 2 ladders and have to jump, they just work on their own now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 They seem to have no problem following me up the ladder of the scaffolding outside Dishong Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Krougal said: They seem to have no problem following me up the ladder of the scaffolding outside Dishong Tower. It is random. In my SP game I built a ladder for the zombies to climb up so I could make easy headshots. It worked 1 and a half horde nights then suddenly zombies would ignore the ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 hours ago, meganoth said: It is random. In my SP game I built a ladder for the zombies to climb up so I could make easy headshots. It worked 1 and a half horde nights then suddenly zombies would ignore the ladder. That’s faatal’s new zombie AI working….they get smarter now……….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 hours ago, BFT2020 said: That’s faatal’s new zombie AI working….they get smarter now……….. Excellent. The new meta will be to build a new horde base every week because the zombie AI remembers the pitfalls of the current horde base indefinitely and avoids them. I'm sure players will rejoice. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryTGash Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 It's nearly at that point that the roles are reversed and the ai is cheesing us 🧀 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, meganoth said: Excellent. The new meta will be to build a new horde base every week because the zombie AI remembers the pitfalls of the current horde base indefinitely and avoids them. I'm sure players will rejoice. 😁 I wonder what the zombie response would be to run and gun players or players who sit on a roof and shoot down at the zombies or throw molotovs, grenades and pipe bombs? Do they then simply no longer show up ? 😉 Edited December 31, 2021 by RipClaw typo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RipClaw said: I wonder what the zombie response would be to run and gun players or players who sit on a root and shoot down at the zombies or throw molotovs, grenades and pipe bombs? Do they then simply no longer show up ? 😉 Grenades are very susceptible to not flocking together. And regarding molotovs, one of the last zombiebag I looted had a glass of water in it! Coincidence? 😉 Edited December 31, 2021 by meganoth (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, BarryTGash said: It's nearly at that point that the roles are reversed and the ai is cheesing us 🧀 😆 So, if the zombies now have a functioning brain, does that mean we should then act brain dead ? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatch Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 This would have been so much better and funnier of a bug if, instead of not climbing the ladder, the zombies instead shot off into space when reaching the top as long as there wasn't a roof over the ladder, and subsequently died from fall damage! 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pack Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, meganoth said: Excellent. The new meta will be to build a new horde base every week because the zombie AI remembers the pitfalls of the current horde base indefinitely and avoids them. I'm sure players will rejoice. 😁 Aha! I knew it.. they are not zombies... they are Borg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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