Roland Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said: Been saying for a long time... a hybrid system is best. There are two kinds of enjoyment to be had. Instant gratification and the rewards of hard work. Perk points bring instant gratification. Stretching out progression does add to the grind, but when this part of the game is dictated by randomness, luck, it is not the same satisfaction as grinding something with purpose and where you are in full control. You have achieved something because you put the effort in, not because you just happened to finally find a book. Some people only find instant gratification fun and satisfying. Some people only enjoy the immersion of improving your character through learning and training. A hybrid system touches on both and everyone is happy. Unless you attribute your comments to one generation or another I can’t understand what you’re saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicUs5000 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Roland said: Unless you attribute your comments to one generation or another I can’t understand what you’re saying. lol, I don't know what that would be. Baby Boomer + Teeny Bopper = Baby Bopper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramethzer0 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Ugh. 😐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadpickle Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 12:10 AM, Domo said: thanks for the Info. Will check it out. Anyways, I think my biggest problem with the current skill-system is that it feels like a mess. Its not complex, but it feels like a mess. My english realy sucks and I am sorry if I trigged anyone with my first post Your English is fine. It feels like a mess because perk based systems are boring and uninspired. Fallout 4 made the same mistake. But the kids these days, they don't know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejlarson Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Imagine calling someone "the greatest generation that ever lived" as an insult. None taken child, none taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidster Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, ejlarson said: Imagine calling someone "the greatest generation that ever lived" as an insult. None taken child, none taken. I think the Boomers' parents (my grandparents) were "the greatest generation", having gone through significant sacrifice during WWII. I mean, nothing so freedom-destroying as wearing a mask, mind you, but pretty significant sacrifice nevertheless. Boomers were what happened when the men (mostly it was men) came back from the war and got <ahem> reacquainted with their wives/girlfriends. My generation is what happened when Boomers discovered weed and LSD and took off their bras or whatever. Explains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotitdone Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Meh, A system that "requires" you to spam craft isn't a good system for this genXer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Using boomer in the title, automatically not taken seriously by me. GG WP NO RE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanea Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 LBD was fine for attack skills (if you couldnt dump points into it cheating the system) catastrophic for crafting (spamcrafting is likely worst thing ever appearing in 7days) equal to current for unlocking skills please leave boomers in left 4 dead before someone suspect you from using re*arded term to clasify humans often used by id*ots and kids on internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I'm not sure how using ageism is supposed to make your argument attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramethzer0 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gideon said: I'm not sure how using ageism is supposed to make your argument attractive. Or even logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 actually, if you choose to spend your acquired xp in certain skills this kinda negates the crux of your argument. What you are asking for is granular control over a complex gameplay balance and TFP have decided. No... We can't let you have Skyrim level skill progression cuz that won't work with our framework and engine. Consider what you are actually asking and then re state your question with an understanding of the metric f-ton of coding required to make that change, let alone balance it to everyone's expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Seems to me LBD is best paired with The Lost Generation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanea Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Roland said: Seems to me LBD is best paired with The Lost Generation... its best paired with people who cant understand simple perks so they do same thing over and over(7981 stone axes) expecting to get different results and then they pick next goal in life ... whinning at forum why they didnt started getting iron axes after reaching 600 stone ones skyrim ... is completely different game it doesnt allow you to easily get resources to craft 24/7 while you work ongetting more resources sure they could remove damage bonus from weapon perks ... and give us lbd 0,5% entity damage per rank again but weapons only ... crafting lbd failed so hard .. it lead to removal of whole system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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