skertelles2.0 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 does single player use internet data? this just a question on my mind, and I not sure if single players games or mode use internet data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 does single player use internet data? this just a question on my mind, and I not sure if single players games or mode use internet data. The world you are playing is stored on your local computer, your character data too. The only internet data that might be stored in your character (at least in A17) might be your steam-id AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You can play it offline in SP. No problem in A16. I don´t like the idea of data stored online for SP maybe coming A17. Not at all. It would suck big time if you need internet for SP. Usually a reason to not buy a game. Hoping this won´t come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skertelles2.0 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 thxs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katitof Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You can play it offline in SP. No problem in A16. I don´t like the idea of data stored online for SP maybe coming A17. Not at all. It would suck big time if you need internet for SP. Usually a reason to not buy a game. Hoping this won´t come. What kind of 3rd world country you live for internet to be any issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Authentication and sharing statistics with the steam services. But unless you have a very restrictive internet plan (running over a mobile phone data connection for example) that should not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 My network logs traffic summaries. I can tell you that during a typical session, I send more data to Microsoft than I exchange with Steam, and both of those are negligible. (ie, less than 20k over three hours average). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You can play it offline in SP. No problem in A16. I don´t like the idea of data stored online for SP maybe coming A17. Not at all. It would suck big time if you need internet for SP. Usually a reason to not buy a game. Hoping this won´t come. If you are refering to the steam-id I mentioned, it is not exactly data stored online. in A17 single player mode will just be multiplayer mode with only one player in the game. Since in multiplayer you are identified by your steam-id (to make sure you are always the same character even if you log in from a different computer), this will happen in A17 even if you play single-player. But technically you are not storing something on the internet but storing internet data (your steam-id) locally. And your steam client knows your steam-id even if you play in offline-mode. The data that is really stored on the internet is, like Damocles said, the steam statistics, like how long you played a specific game. And you can always turn on oflline mode, which allows you to play without internet. The statistics will still be eventually stored on the steam servers, but you can play offline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyris Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Today's games always use the net in someway even console games do. Most of the time its a small drm check, or checking for a update nothing bandwith intensive at all. Steam always uses the net even in offline mode, offline mode is just set to let you play games if you currently lack a connection, if you have one when in that mode it most likely uses the net for something. As for data amount used, its probally very small in 7dtd even if your playing on a server. Couple kbytes/second, most of it will probally be used when first connecting. Also when you play Single player in 7dtd its still useing a server, its just a local one, your pc. Since its just you thought it doesn't bother to open a net connection at least till a17. in a17 there is no sp or mp, its all MP just that if your by yourself it'll act like the old single player game namely the ability to pause it. Currently if you were to start a single player game and say a friend wanted to join you, you currently in a16 need to do some wizardry with the save file and other files to convert it to a multiplayer map. In a17 they can just join via your ip or something, or thru steam friends list etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skertelles2.0 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Today's games always use the net in someway even console games do. Most of the time its a small drm check, or checking for a update nothing bandwith intensive at all. Steam always uses the net even in offline mode, offline mode is just set to let you play games if you currently lack a connection, if you have one when in that mode it most likely uses the net for something. As for data amount used, its probally very small in 7dtd even if your playing on a server. Couple kbytes/second, most of it will probally be used when first connecting. Also when you play Single player in 7dtd its still useing a server, its just a local one, your pc. Since its just you thought it doesn't bother to open a net connection at least till a17. in a17 there is no sp or mp, its all MP just that if your by yourself it'll act like the old single player game namely the ability to pause it. Currently if you were to start a single player game and say a friend wanted to join you, you currently in a16 need to do some wizardry with the save file and other files to convert it to a multiplayer map. In a17 they can just join via your ip or something, or thru steam friends list etc. Why get rid of single player? i rarely play multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What kind of 3rd world country you live for internet to be any issue? I have internet most of the year. Unless we are in the cabin. Up on a mountain. With the next neighbour half an hour away. Also this isn´t a matter of 3rd world country. I sometimes also wanna play on my balcony, using the laptop. I don´t see why i have to install a cable there for an SP game.... @meganoth Well, that makes sense. But we still have pause, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 You might be able to play without internet access once you're already loaded into the SP game... but (if I remember correctly) the game forces you to have internet in order to launch the game, so... there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 just tested it in a16.4 and in a17 (unplugging my cable modem to test this)... you WILL get a message about no internet and gives options to "retry" (which basically loops), "play offline" (which is grey'd out so its useless) and "quit" (being the only option that actually works). now here is the gist... if you have internet... log into steam and then choose "Go Offline" then choose 7dtd tp play, you will get the same warning box only this time the option to play offline is usable now. 1. https://imgur.com/a/Z3nrO7P 2. https://imgur.com/a/qxpFGHU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 just tested it in a16.4 and in a17 (unplugging my cable modem to test this)... you WILL get a message about no internet and gives options to "retry" (which basically loops), "play offline" (which is grey'd out so its useless) and "quit" (being the only option that actually works). now here is the gist... if you have internet... log into steam and then choose "Go Offline" then choose 7dtd tp play, you will get the same warning box only this time the option to play offline is usable now. 1. https://imgur.com/a/Z3nrO7P 2. https://imgur.com/a/qxpFGHU Thank you for confirming that. Also thank you for confirming my suspicions that all QA testers are Digital Humans. [Your Avatar is a dead giveaway.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reth Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What kind of 3rd world country you live for internet to be any issue? Heh, North Dallas area here, I'm surrounded by high-end fiber. All it takes is a semi-trained Frontier tech with fat fingers. Your personal data line gets bent just a touch too far, you loose your connection and the first appointment window is in four days. Happened twice this year so far. Needless to say, I prefer to have one or two offline games just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I have internet most of the year. Unless we are in the cabin. Up on a mountain. With the next neighbour half an hour away. Also this isn´t a matter of 3rd world country. I sometimes also wanna play on my balcony, using the laptop. I don´t see why i have to install a cable there for an SP game.... @meganoth Well, that makes sense. But we still have pause, right? Yes. TFP said that as long as only one player is in the game, pause works. As far as I can see, nobody just playing the game will really notice a difference to A16. Too bad steam offline mode doesn't really work as intended (thanks UnholyJoe for the tests), but maybe TFP can fix this eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USSF06 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What kind of 3rd world country you live for internet to be any issue? I had this issue in Afghanistan. We would download games at the morale tent, only to discover the games needed internet when returning to our barracks. Super frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladarian Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Had this problem at home. Internet died, I started the server locally then bridged my phone enough for us to connect both computers via lan then disconnected the phone. It worked but still seems a silly thing to have to do to prevent even a local lan game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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