veslarius Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Its been a long time since Joel made his last video, about 40 days roughly. So, whats it gonna take Joel? You want more likes? A selfie? the time has come once again to let watch you die at the hands of sleeper zombies and undead vultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 This typically means it's nose to the grindstone time. They're working hellacious hours to get bugs squashed so they can release. No free time for screwing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veslarius Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 This typically means it's nose to the grindstone time. They're working hellacious hours to get bugs squashed so they can release. No free time for screwing around. Don't do it Joel, you're too important for that amount of effort. Get your nose off the grindstone before you injure your mountain-man beard and strain your C# skills. Just acquire some minions, make them do all the tedious grunt work and make a YouTube video showing them jumping through hoops as you sit back with a cold beer and a Sham Sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlayerGM Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Don't do it Joel, you're too important for that amount of effort. Get your nose off the grindstone before you injure your mountain-man beard and strain your C# skills. Just acquire some minions, make them do all the tedious grunt work and make a YouTube video showing them jumping through hoops as you sit back with a cold beer and a Sham Sandwich. LOL exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Yeah I'm betting they're all a little burned out by now. Deadlines for Alphas are never a good idea. As much as I really want to see A17, another extra month won't kill us. We'll be on life support and whining like dogs but..... we'll live. Smooshing bugs is worth a little wait. [Emphasis on little] Don't push too hard Joel. Beard-Strain is a real and ever present danger. ~Lucky Tribute-and-Farewell-to-A16-Plus-bonus-tips-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarlingCows Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I would agree that an update video would be nice since we been wishing for a17 on every Monday and now it’s rumored to be released in September. It would relieve some expectancy. But I have not idea how much time madmole has avalible to make a video. So I do not demand for a video so that we don’t pressure any of the fun pimps any more than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 All I can say about this matter is that it's not fair. To either to customers and to themselves. 1. If the new unity caused so many bugs they have a 3-4 month delay. So september // december release. - Why not say so. But then a lot of the hype and attention dies till that date is reached. Forum numbers would collapse till weeks before release. 2. It would be insane to work day n night to still reach that release goal of august, if there's just a gazillion new bugs or graphic stuff to fix. Take a holiday, have a beer. We can wait. I just wish they'd communicated differently. Cause in the end this will only cause burn outs and irritated players. -batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullpoker Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 How many AAA games are released with no bugs? I mean it's one thing if there are constant persistent, game-breaking bugs or CTD's, but the game is still in Alpha so it's understandably not going to be perfect. I hope they get to the point where it's good enough pretty soon. Consider the Diablo III launch fail, or the years it took No Man's Sky to finally get most of the features the game was supposed to have at release. Most of us aren't expecting a "perfect" finished game right now and also don't want to wait until 2019 for the next Alpha version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veslarius Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'm not really in a rush for the update. I'm hoping that the longer they take, the more features make it in. Mad Mole videos on the other hand, satisfy my 7 Days craving for about 2 weeks at a time depending on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'm not really in a rush for the update. I'm hoping that the longer they take, the more features make it in. Mad Mole videos on the other hand, satisfy my 7 Days craving for about 2 weeks at a time depending on the video. Yeah even a video just giving us an update on the process. Let us know how the last leg of A17 is going. ~Lucky Tribute-and-Farewell-to-A16-Plus-bonus-tips-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzano Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'm patient as far as the actual release goes, but yes, a video or a post from him would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVegaNL Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I'm sure they are not rushing. I mean, it's been 14 months since A16E was released.. I don't think that equals rushing A17. Some info would be nice. And if there's a video, here's to hoping it's not another one showing the Jeep, showing Perishton, and showing another POI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I'm sure they are not rushing. I mean, it's been 14 months since A16E was released.. I don't think that equals rushing A17. I see what you're saying but all relative isn't it? "I'm sure they're not rushing building that Great Pyramid... I mean.... It's been how many years now?" It all depends on the size and difficulty of the task. I think people forget there was a major update to the Unity engine in there as well and that slows things down for a time. Only they know what other difficulties they ran into during this build. ~Lucky Working-Castle-Tribute-to-A16-Plus-bonus-tips-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I see what you're saying but all relative isn't it? "I'm sure they're not rushing building that Great Pyramid... I mean.... It's been how many years now?" It all depends on the size and difficulty of the task. I think people forget there was a major update to the Unity engine in there as well and that slows things down for a time. Only they know what other difficulties they ran into during this build. The perspective and nuance that you just gave is getting dangerously close to "white knighting," so be careful. *eye roll* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigbert Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Make it a solid good game before you release it. Everyone will be happier in the long run. And for god sakes. Take a few hours to play it from the start like you were a single player random gen newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veslarius Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 The perspective and nuance that you just gave is getting dangerously close to "white knighting," so be careful. *eye roll* I'm not sure what you mean by him "White knighting", but I also would rather wait as long as it takes to get the npcs and settlements in. I don't want to rush them in the slightest because after npcs get in really all that's left is animal taming if they do it and hopefully fishing/boats. After the npcs my next biggest concern for me personally would be the fishing, then small boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I'm not sure what you mean by him "White knighting" It's what trolls accuse people of doing whenever they defend somebody (in this case, TFP). My point is that Lucky posted good reasons for a delay, but the trolls would call it a defense. Sense pretty much is out the window for them. I wonder what the opposite of "white knighting" would be. "Black skullduggers"? I wouldn't mind responding to trolls with "that's enough of your black skullduggery." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veslarius Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 I suppose you could use that as a counter if they try to troll you about white knighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam R. Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (...) "that's enough of your black skullduggery." That's racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Batman Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 That twitter update is one reason a lot of people are making jokes. Taking 1 year and 2 months... Some scrapped features... But hey, the lighting is excellenté. I hope they show some actual footage soon. Preferably of RWG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 For a nice recent example...White knights like you are what are wrong with gaming communities. I've seen game after game fall prey to a lack of feedback early in the dev process, and the culprit time after time was that the dev team surrounded themselves with sycophants and yes men who saw no evil and spoke no evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger2013 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Don't do it Joel, you're too important for that amount of effort. Get your nose off the grindstone before you injure your mountain-man beard and strain your C# skills. Just acquire some minions, make them do all the tedious grunt work and make a YouTube video showing them jumping through hoops as you sit back with a cold beer and a Sham Sandwich. I don't think Joel does any programming, just artwork, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I know Joel and he will NEVER put out a video if the game is ugly and until they get the shaders fixed it is ugly. Right now the sky is messed up, many of the entities and blocks look like plastic, and many textures are off. It is just a visual thing. The game plays fine but unless it is pretty, he will not show it. That is the reason for the famine of videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarlingCows Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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