AidenwithAnAxe Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 on day one in a new world I think I got a motorcycle on day one through looting? I forgot because this was 2 days ago, but I'll check and update you guys' on this. but is this insanely lucky or impossible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 In Vanilla on day 1 ? That's actually impossible. Motorcycle parts are T2 parts and you can only find them from loot level 80 and even at loot level 80 they are extremely rare. And you can't find a complete motorcycle anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidenwithAnAxe Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 2 hours ago, RipClaw said: In Vanilla on day 1 ? That's actually impossible. Motorcycle parts are T2 parts and you can only find them from loot level 80 and even at loot level 80 they are extremely rare. And you can't find a complete motorcycle anyway. Then goddamn I need sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotor Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, AidenwithAnAxe said: Then goddamn I need sleep "Zombie, become, you will!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCabong Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 This morning I opened two wall safes, three cop cars, and a cabinet safe with one lock pick. That WAS insanely lucky. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 This may be my Flying Dutchman motorcycle...returned from the beyond. Don't ride it! ...or you may find yourself standing on its seat...unable to get off until death! True story! -Arch Necromancer Morloc 💀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I wish we had to find a stethoscope for dial combination locks and lock picks for doors and cars. The stethoscope obviously wouldn't break, so I am not sure how that mini game should function, but a lockpick ain't it Maybe like a wheel jackpot where you have to click as the symbol rolls around. The higher the stethoscope, the slower the wheels turn. Random reference, but I am thinking like the end level power up jackpot from Super Mario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, warmer said: I wish we had to find a stethoscope for dial combination locks and lock picks for doors and cars. The stethoscope obviously wouldn't break, so I am not sure how that mini game should function, but a lockpick ain't it Cracking a safe with a stethoscope is a myth perpetuated by Hollywood movies. The Mythbusters tested it. There was so much background noise that they could barely hear anything. In mods there are lockpicking mini games that are much more enjoyable than in vanilla. Edited October 2 by RipClaw (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suxar Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 42 minutes ago, RipClaw said: In mods there are lockpicking mini games that are much more enjoyable than in vanilla. No need for any mini-games. TES experimented with this. Of course, it's interesting to hack a couple of times, but then it gets boring - a waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riamus Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 50 minutes ago, RipClaw said: In mods there are lockpicking mini games that are much more enjoyable than in vanilla. Not worth it. It's bad enough in a game like Skyrim where you only have to do it once in a while. But with how often you're picking locks in this game, it would be a nightmare. No, thanks. I'm happy that's not in vanilla. And if it was, I'd have to invest in the timed charges or just auger my way through the locks all the time just to avoid dealing with it all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigglingZombie Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, RipClaw said: In mods there are lockpicking mini games that are much more enjoyable than in vanilla. the lockpicking "mini games" i've come across in whichever mods/overhaul mods of 7 Days, were downright annoying, they absolutely should not be in vanilla, for various reasons; have them via mods - sure, but when they can't be switched back to normal lockpicking, even in the overhaul mods it makes me not want to play anymore, horrible idea that is no fun and just extremely annoying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmic Kerman Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 7 hours ago, Riamus said: Not worth it. It's bad enough in a game like Skyrim where you only have to do it once in a while. But with how often you're picking locks in this game, it would be a nightmare. No, thanks. I'm happy that's not in vanilla. And if it was, I'd have to invest in the timed charges or just auger my way through the locks all the time just to avoid dealing with it all the time. I really wish TFP would rethink the decision to make loot boxes locked. It’s one of my least favorite changes they have made. If the only locked items were safes and police cars, a mini game or the current system would be much more tolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, RipClaw said: Cracking a safe with a stethoscope is a myth perpetuated by Hollywood movies. The Mythbusters tested it. There was so much background noise that they could barely hear anything While I can agree it doesn't make a lot of sense, it makes MORE sense than a lock pick lol. There really shouldn't be any background noise like in myth busters. There are no machinery/electricity/fans/traffic so your background noise floor will be SUPER low. The people that are experts do it 100% on feel, but that ONLY works on a well lubricated lock or you would never be able to tell the difference. Edit: Well look at that. Yes you can https://youtu.be/ihVUdpdBhJU?si=i_9mrwnwQeD2sHVx Edited October 2 by warmer (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 14 hours ago, Suxar said: No need for any mini-games. TES experimented with this. Of course, it's interesting to hack a couple of times, but then it gets boring - a waste of time. I have played several overhauls with the mini game. And it´s way less frustrating than rng breaking your lockpicks at under one second three times in a row or breaking so fast you don´t even see the timer. I prefer skill based instead of random luck, even when it´s a really easy mini game. It´s not TES style, it´s like in Fallout. Edited October 2 by pApA^LeGBa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riamus Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Fallout was just as bad. If you rarely pick locks, it works. Otherwise, it is just annoying. And this game requires a lot of lockpicking unless you ignore all the locks or break them open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 16 minutes ago, Riamus said: And this game requires a lot of lockpicking unless you ignore all the locks or break them open. The moment you get a steel pick, you change a completely unpredictable waste of time into a defined waste of less time. I Never bother to waste the inv slot for lockpicks after that - and admittedly, rarely even before that (not that many things to unlock, and a wrench will do in a pinch). Maybe if Jailbreakers were a loot drop, I might take a lockpick with me when I happen to have one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riamus Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 33 minutes ago, theFlu said: The moment you get a steel pick, you change a completely unpredictable waste of time into a defined waste of less time. I Never bother to waste the inv slot for lockpicks after that - and admittedly, rarely even before that (not that many things to unlock, and a wrench will do in a pinch). Maybe if Jailbreakers were a loot drop, I might take a lockpick with me when I happen to have one... But that wouldn't change with a lockpicking mini-game. We're talking about all the times you do use lockpicks in the earlier game and every game you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crow Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Lockpicking in this game is horrible. Throwing points into lockpicking doesn't really seem to have any effect on how quickly and randomly they break. And having a streak of picks breaking one after the other within less than a second is just.. ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suxar Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 hours ago, pApA^LeGBa said: It´s not TES style, it´s like in Fallout. TES V and Fallout 4 implement lockpicking in absolutely the same way. The only thing that distinguishes them is the textures. 3 hours ago, Old Crow said: Throwing points into lockpicking doesn't really seem to have any effect on how quickly and randomly they break. There is an influence. Without the skill of hacking, the lockpicks decrease, with a pumped skill they accumulate. Well, the fact that they sometimes break 5 pieces in a row is all the will of the great random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigglingZombie Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I'm no massive gamer, ie i don't play a huge amount of games; regardless, in 7 Days, in my humble opinion, lockpicking should be what it already is, in vanilla (the concept i mean), ie try one or more times in the simplest fashion there is (ie the vanilla method) to get the lock picked; ---> to get what's inside, i have zero interest in that task being a "mini game" of any sort, i simply want to get what's inside, i don't want it to be like some strange "mini game" to open a lock; again just my humble opinion (and yes - i find those mini game" methods too difficult which is partly why i don't like them ; let's not forget, zombies could be trying to eat you at any moment, whilst we need challenges in such a game, "mini games" are not it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pApA^LeGBa Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Suxar said: TES V and Fallout 4 implement lockpicking in absolutely the same way. The only thing that distinguishes them is the textures. There is an influence. Without the skill of hacking, the lockpicks decrease, with a pumped skill they accumulate. Well, the fact that they sometimes break 5 pieces in a row is all the will of the great random. Well then FO76 did it different. TES has the pins you need to arrange and represents actual lockpicking way more then what the mod and FO76 do, wich is really not enjoyable. FO76 has the hair pins and it´s easy, same for 7 days it´s not really hard. But tbh everything is better than just watching a timer going down and hoping for luck, i rather break it with a stone axe than doing that. Edited October 3 by pApA^LeGBa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 9 hours ago, Riamus said: But that wouldn't change with a lockpicking mini-game. It might; skill based picking doesn't make me annoyed as easily. While it might on paper be still "just as random", it'd at least be partially in my control. And I'm assuming the easy-to-break things would be easy-to-pick as well. Of course even with a mini-game there are thresholds where the pickaxe becomes the better option. Heh, from "did I loot an impossible item" to a lockpicking thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 You guys don't know how good you have it.... -Arch Necromancer Morloc 💀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFlu Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 18 minutes ago, Morloc said: You guys don't know how good you have it.... I dunno man, while that's graphically obnoxious by current standards, it looks like a perfectly deterministic shape recognition -puzzle. I wouldn't hate that any more than I do the current one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Speaking of luck. I looted a crucible from a Working Stiff truck in the burnt biome on day 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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