Royal Deluxe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I am really curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Moved to Questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 R o f l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 I guess i need to make a more offensive and less sarcastic thread like "Thanks for the proof that all these whining about a missing underground challenge was finally only the wish to dictate others how they have to play" Not funny to stand there on bedrock and wait where the ceiling will break And specially i guess not funny if such a "Fill in offensive words here" will break the SI and end your Death is Death game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirion Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I have some ideas on how to make an underground base but it'd be rather tedious to set up which is why I haven't bothered. Basically you need the outer hull of your bunker to be at least triple walled, and have a clear entrance from the surface to funnel them that way. Having to triple wall a base all the way to bed rock though, requires an absurd amount of work and materials, even using cheats, so I just haven't bothered to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 The point is that digging zombies deny a part of the community to build as they like. And a huge argument was that a other (huge) part of the community would start building bunkers if there wold be a threat. I guess now 2 month after the Experimental started its safe to say that this is not the case And the other argument that people should not be able to skip the horde is proofen wrong too. We allready have passive bases and ways to skip the hordenight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirion Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Gotcha. I don't disagree with anything you have said though. Like I said, ever since the changes, I have not been motivated to build a bunker because of needing so much work. Maybe I will one day. If I ever do, I'll probably save the prefab so I never have to do all the work more than once lol And yeah, passive bases are pretty easy to do now that I understand the new AI. Funnel them into a death corridor full of turrets, spikes, dart traps and just sit back and enjoy the show with your favorite snack of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Highly pertinent to general discussion and should not have been moved! So come on all those that howled that they wanted to play underground but couldn't because of the lack of threat, you got your digging zeds, now where are your gameplay vids of you joyously dealing with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The point is that digging zombies deny a part of the community to build as they like. And a huge argument was that a other (huge) part of the community would start building bunkers if there wold be a threat. It was said the underground would be interesting again, not necessarily that everyone would build bunkers. And in the first days of A17.0 it really was an interesting place (for me) as I made lots of precautions before digging in the night and also was very cautious when digging. But night is out of balance a bit now, in early game I have many nights without a single zombie (in SP) and in my co-op game we dig at bedrock without any zombie ever coming to visit. I still think we need buried zombies who might wake up when we get near them. And/or caves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It was said Who said? You said? What about all those posts that were simply ' I want to build an underground base, but I won't because it's boring ' That is what we are talking about! Enough with the words.....video or it's never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Who said? You said? What about all those posts that were simply ' I want to build an underground base, but I won't because it's boring ' That is what we are talking about! Enough with the words.....video or it's never happened. I said that and if I remember correctly at least Roland said that as well. If you want names, I want names too: Who said "I want to build an underground base"? Lets ask them directly if they are still on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 I dont want to do this 1: Its too much work, have better things to do 2: I dont like to nail people and set them under pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I am really curious. We haven’t quite reached the point yet where people are posting all their base ideas. Some are doing it but we still have quite a few screaming that anything other than one type is impossible. They are slowly being proven wrong. I was one who said I don’t go underground because it’s boring so I guess I oughta get going and give it a try now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I said that and if I remember correctly at least Roland said that as well. If you want names, I want names too: Who said "I want to build an underground base"? Lets ask them directly if they are still on the forum. OK, I have begun the collation of quotes. What's really funny is the first one that I found, you were a participant in the discussion. This will take some time...18 months of posts to trawl through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 We haven’t quite reached the point yet where people are posting all their base ideas. Some are doing it but we still have quite a few screaming that anything other than one type is impossible. They are slowly being proven wrong. I was one who said I don’t go underground because it’s boring so I guess I oughta get going and give it a try now. With "go underground" you meant building a base underground? Ok, have to correct my (very small) list above. OK, I have begun the collation of quotes. What's really funny is the first one that I found, you were a participant in the discussion. This will take some time...18 months of posts to trawl through. Oh sure, I have been in a lot of "underground" discussions. I even posted theories then on how an underground base could maybe work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Oh sure, I have been in a lot of "underground" discussions. And you don't remember any of the posts as described? Well the list is coming and it is frickin huge. Still, it will take some time for a full collation....it is a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard69 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 We haven’t quite reached the point yet where people are posting all their base ideas. Some are doing it but we still have quite a few screaming that anything other than one type is impossible. They are slowly being proven wrong. I was one who said I don’t go underground because it’s boring so I guess I oughta get going and give it a try now. I thought a lot of people were posting their working bases, and showing us how it can be done. Idk I try not to look at others designs. But you have absolutely been saying that. Has there been even 1 underground idea? I mean, adding digging zombies honestly didnt make underground more interesting. A random normie zombie here and there means nothing really, except something to mess up the terrain. And nobody is gonna build a horde base down there just to have zombies destroy the earth and make giant pitfalls all over the place. And building anything that would work against the AI would not be cost efficient compared to above ground anyway. Which limits it to forge rooms and mines unless we are masochists. Maybe this will spur you (or others) on to build something really cool down there, looking forward to it. I'm just waiting for 17.2 patiently. Ugh, I'm lying.. patiently died in a cave in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 And you don't remember any of the posts as described? Posts specifically saying they want to build a base underground? No, don't remember, though I would bet there should probably have been a few. Well the list is coming and it is frickin huge. Still, it will take some time for a full collation....it is a lot of work. Well, how about posting just 5? With quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Well, how about posting just 5? With quotes. No mate, I am proving a point.....your getting hundreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADication Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 No mate, I am proving a point..... After having it impressed on me from a number of quarters that to continue this is both unnecessary and unhelpful, I have decided to desist. I would still love to see game reports of underground main bases successfully defending against BM. I have built a safe underground base, but it was under a broad 120m+ mountain, old school no detection at all type 'exploit' scenario, and may not be viable in future alpha's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I started my underground base. Back in Alpha 9 I would find a corner of a POI and try and make a hidden spot for my entrance. So I did the same. I did not dig down to bedrock as I did not have the patience. But I am about 20 blocks down and have started excavating a chamber. My plan is to tunnel away from my living chamber and create a larger and deeper chamber with an iron bar cage mounted midway up the wall. That is where I will go for bloodmoon. I plan to dig a tiered stairstepping shaft that opens in the ceiling in the middle of the room hopefully to channel zombies there. I'm sure they will dig their own shafts as well. I have been interrupted twice now by wandering hordes and had to fill in holes dug by zombies. Since I had so much stone and clay I made flagstone blocks to fill in the holes and created short little monuments above ground to also help mark where the digging took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 @ Roland I am curious how that goes. I've been interested in the idea of building an underground base to defend from bloodmoons (it sounds fun), but I am worried about the swiss-cheese effect building up. I assume unless patched the ground would eventually turn into a huge chunk of random tunnels and/or an open crator. I am curious how it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 @ Roland I am curious how that goes. +1 Yeaa damn forum +1 has not 4 letters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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