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You can easily have both. LBD with perks and level restrictions. Try and play a bit of Darkness Falls. It´s a really good progression. Unless you like min/max a lot, that doesn´t happen due to level caps. Also magazines plus fergettin elixir are a way to get what you want really fast. It´s not an argument that people only want fast progression. The current system allows that aswell as the old one. Just in an even more weird way of doing it. So no, the reasons a lot of people don´t like magazines is not that they can´t progress fast anymore. And if TFP wanted to prevent too fast progression they shouldn´t have made the fergetting elixir that cheap and shouldn´t have put learning elixir in every vending machine.

I would even bet money that someone on the steam forums will mention that in the future. That´s why i don´t understand when devs even give out vague time frames. It always ends bad if there is just the slightest delay. Even just a day will trigger at least one idiot.

That´s actually just semantics here, i didn´t misread, i just didn´t go into detail, because if you nowadays are surprised if people mistake a estimated guess for a fact, you have been sleeping under a rock for a long time tbh. Or you are new to the internet. I assume both isn´t true for mad mole.

Serious question? I mean you put points in the perk prior to A21.

In the last SP playtrough it was shotgun shells and 9mm for Turrets at the horde base. Ammo for the magnum got scraped to brass, Playing MP we simply use different weapons so every type is getting used.

And how exactly do you get water if you spend most of the time building? It needs a lot of looting to be able to buy enough filters to not having to worry about water anymore. It takes a lot of dew collectors if you only wanna rely on them. And yes you have to go looting for that or otherwise you won´t get any water. You will also struggle on hordenights if you spend the majority of the time building as you will be stuck with low level stone gear. And building without good tools? Nope. Need to go looting for that. And praying to RNGesus that it doesn´t take you too long to get enough magazines so you can mine properly, get a nailgun and defend yourself on hordenight and vs screamers. Oh and not to forget farming. And cooking. Beeing able to craft first aid items. That all needs looting. It doesn´t matter what you wanna do. It always involves a lot of looting. One of the worst things with magazines are quests wich you need to do as builder to be able to concentrate on building faster. You nearly found enough magazines after stopping at every mailbox to make that steel armor and then you get the set as a reward. Meh. Thanks for nothing. And i am the one beeing riddiculous here. Sure. You can´t say i don´t loot a lot in the first two weeks. It´s impossible. TFP should have focused more on making the other biomes a must. They are basically useless. Also they wouldn´t need to force us into POI looting that much if the survival part would be actually worth beeing called survival. At thist point it only still exists so they can all it survival.

That alone isn´t a problem on it´s own. But after building up a playerbase and than completly turn over to a loot shooter is a problem. Now if they would have communicated that from the beginning that also wouldn´t be a problem. But letting people play for nearly 10 years and than deceiding to turn the game into a loot shooter basically over night is just bad. And yes, i know the legal terms of early access and what it means and that i only have the right to the version at the time of buying. But just because you can, doesn´t autimatically mean you should. A behaviour like that is yet another reason why more and more people dislike early access. (Not blaming TFP for everything here, just saying the add another reason) They propably won´t go into early access with their next title, but if they do, i am surely not gonna touch it before beta or release.

With community you mean gamers in general. It´s not that this is a new behaviour from the gaming crowd that is exclusive to 7 days to die. If you make a deadline and can´t meet it people get upset. Does this really surprise anyone? That´s a normal behaviour even when not talking about games or software. I am well aware that it is very hard to estimate when a game or a feature of a game is done, but knowing that, why even give an estimate? People getting angry about a deadline that isn´t met, was a thing before the internet and video games already...

Well the fact that you need to rationalize it to make sense, does speak for itself imo. @meilodasreh Yeah, bookstores become the number one target for looting, double dipping is the norm. Crowded Public Servers must be a nightmare i imagine. It´s all about finding magazines fast enough to not fall behind the gamestage.

Yeah punishing builds that don´t specialize is a big minus. Like this game needed more optiona to min/max....

But they literally do represent skill progression. The more magazines you read the more you progress in a skill. For limiting the player in terms of progression speed there are better ways. Like level caps. You can´t find a way around that. Magazines can be worked around. Level one skill like crazy get all the magazines in 3 days, buy fergetting elixir, rinse and repeat with other skills.

Recipes aren´t crafting skills. There is a difference. And yes, recipes should be unlocked by perks aswell. But still, crafting skills and recipes are two different things. @Kalen Yeah i know the opinion from TFP on LBD. I never wanted it back from TFP anyways. They would never introduce level caps and that is very necessary. Look at Darkness Falls. It has a LBD system with perks for crafting skills and things like iron gut and such. Spam crafting doesn´t do anything for your crafting skill at all, the LBD part is only for action skills, like scavenging, atlethics and using a weapon/tool. Crafting skills are bought with skill points. The only thing you can spam is maybe atlethics in the first few nights. And you have level restrictions so you can´t rush any crafting skill or other perk. It´s a steady, well flowing progression. Recipes do exist, but you can unlock everything with perks.

I have now played enough with the new magazine system to be sure, that i will avoid it at every cost. Until there is a standalone mod that either brings back A20 system or introduces a good LBD with perks and level restrictions, i will only play overhauls that do not use the magazine system. RNG for skills shouldn´t be a thing. There is a good reason basically no other games do have RNG when it comes to skills. That´s a typical case of "Just because you are unique, doesn´t mean you are usefull" A good LBD system, with perks and level restrictions so that you can´t max out anything too fast, seems like a good option again since A21 hit.

@Diragor The lantern (doesn´t need power) and every electrical light are safe to use. Just be aware that dewcollectors also produce heat.

Not really. As you must loot and quest a lot, because you will otherwise don´t get any books and water, you have more than enough money to buy it from the traders. And also wrenching cars. With the minibike we don´t even need to go in the desert in MP Coop if we don´t want to. 3 traders within 1.5km, about 8k gas every 3 days to buy from each. More than enough. And as you don´t need to leave the forest there is no reason for other vehicles.

@RipClaw Well it´s a progression ofc. There is no need to move, once you have a minibike you can simply just get what you need or want from other biomes. Make a little outpost in each so you can stay there for 2 or 3 days maybe. I am not talking about having to live there. But right now you don´t even have to go there once at all if you don´t want to. And exactly that was the reason they removed the plains and burnt forest biome. They weren´t necessary. Now snow and wasteland at least do offer a challenge. The desert not so much, only if you go there right at start. Temperature is a non issue tbh. Most annoying thing is the icon in the bottom left corner.

@KrougalOMG imagine people are trying to make a point with an example and imagine not wanting the game to change in every aspect anymore after nearly 10 years of playing it. Also this is not gonna happen anyways. Look how the game developed trough the last alphas. It got easier and easier. With all the first aid, gas to buy at the trader you now don´t even have to leave the forest anymore at all. This change would mean a step in the opposite direction.

That would absolutly kill MP Coop. It would need a new loot system that scales with the people on the server or instanced loot wich would bring up a whole new balance problem. There is no way you can have enough machingun parts to even repair during one horde night in MP Coop. 5 people 64 zombies and at least 2 repairs per night/player. No way.

Despite OP beeing a nuisance here, he is right about the 1-2km radius. You basically can stay within the city you spawn the whole playtrough. There is no motivatioin whatsoever to leave the forest biome, well lootstage but as you also don´t get the higher gamestage bonus when staying in the forest you don´t need bonus for your loot. Not even for aloe or oilshale you need to leave the forest anymore. TFP did a hell lot of work to make us loot all day, but seem to have forgotten about other biomes. And seeing that there isn´t much more to be implented in the game, i don´t have high hopes for anything to happen that will change that. I kinda feel like they do only test on Navezgane where you naturally have to leave the forest if you do the quests as every building only exists once.

I have. Higher difficulty though. If i don´t use explosive arrows or a rocket launcher (those need a ton of duct tape) i can da a whole playrtough without a dew collector. It´s questing and looting all the time. It is a faulty concept. It works, but it surely isn´t what a survival crafting game should be about. Mods are a valid solution. There is several mods that bring back the old system with glass jars.

I think it´s 20 cents for those who have paid for unity pro. The devs that use the free version have to pay 50 cents.

Yeah this will either not beeing able to be billed retroactivly for games sold before the change (i can´t imagine this is legal in any way) or it will be the end of unity and a bunch of small games. Either way, it will lead to a drop in indie games beeing developed. No dev who just started will want to risk anything like that.

Yes that would be really neat. But i can only strongly recommend what @OneManStanding already said: This needs to be optional. Server owners and hosts need the option to deceide themselves if they want that or not. That is important. I remember the huge endless drama on valheim where this was or is possible and you couldn´t turn it off on your server. Not sure how it is today there though.

I mean that´s kinda the whole point of infection. To be a threat. If we roll back they could basically remove infection aswell as there was never a real threat to it because you usually had enough honey before you even got infected. I have several thousand hours, and infection was never an issue not even back then when i started. It was basically only something clogging up your inventory with honey and antibiotics if you found them. Nothing more. Now it´s different, i did have to spend a lot of time to find pop and pills stores and Jen in order to not die.

Well the real deal is Baldurs Gate 3 tnh. 95% positive reviews is an impressive number. I am basically gonna be non existent online and in RL during the christmas holidays when i will play it. Starfield isn´t doing to bad either with 79%, i see people critizing it left, right and center, but reviews on steam, websites and video ones do not reflect that opinion. Well gotta see for myself at some point. Really more hyped for Nightingale soon and BG 3 at christmas.