How long would you survive a zombie apocalypse?

[Guest]

I was bought an excellent book by Dr Dale and his bppk the A-Z dictionary the A-Z guide to staying alive with some excellent advice like:

 

Weapons or what is the best dance.

 

What is the Women's institute attitude.

 

All sort of useful tips.

 

Do not forget that this book comes with a money back gurantee, and I quote

 

Full money back gurantee offered should you die in a zombie apocalypse within 30 days of purchase.

 

Can't be fairer than that for over 300 pages of wisdom

[meganoth]

11 hours ago, Maharin said:

 

There are different results from the infection.  Some people die, some people go full zombie, some are considered "slow burns" that survived the infection but didn't turn into zombies.  The slow burns have different flavors, too, so to speak.  Plus as the virus mutated it created different regional effects on the population.  Some zombies lacked aggression, some were really smart and lead mobs of the dumb ones.  There is a whole lot of nuance to this zombie apocalypse.  That makes it interesting to me.

 

Sounds like an interesting concept to pile surprise on surprise.

 

Another book someone just told me about explained the zombie virus as alien-made to first infect 1/3rd of the population in a first phase, then switch to an activated state. With this construct he explained how the zombies could get to be in masses right from the start.

 

 

[meganoth]

8 hours ago, Kyonshi said:

It was the K virus, which was a re-engineering of the measles virus, by Dr. Krippin, that mutated into the very virulent form showed in the movie. Its catastrophic result was not only due to the quickness of the "transformation" but also to the fact that the vaccine was administered to a huge part of the global population, since it was the literal cure for cancer itself.

 

All successfull zombie apocalypses work wonders as a cure to practically all other diseases, maybe with the exception of nail fungus 😉

 

Oh, and I have to wonder at what time the virus mutated? It sounds like it mutated a while after being used to vaccinate a lot of the population, but then it is inexplainable why a high percentage of the virus **distributed** aka isolated over the human population all mutated the same to result in zombies.

 

Mutation is by definition a random change in the DNA of the virus, really really random. The required change must be enough base changes away to not occur immediately (in a host every single base change occurs multiple times a day) as the vaccination would be stopped immediately after the first cases of zombieness. But it must still lead to the same result in a sizable percentage of the population.

 

Just consider Covid as an example, a new mutation family like Omikron always starts from a single place and fights itself to the top by infection. It doesn't happen (to my knowledge) that the same mutation just happens everywhere in the world at the same time. 

 

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[Matt115]

56 minutes ago, meganoth said:

 

All successfull zombie apocalypses work wonders as a cure to practically all other diseases, maybe with the exception of nail fungus 😉

 

Oh, and I have to wonder at what time the virus mutated? It sounds like it mutated a while after being used to vaccinate a lot of the population, but then it is inexplainable why a high percentage of the virus **distributed** aka isolated over the human population all mutated the same to result in zombies.

 

Mutation is by definition a random change in the DNA of the virus, really really random. The required change must be enough base changes away to not occur immediately (in a host every single base change occurs multiple times a day) as the vaccination would be stopped immediately after the first cases of zombieness. But it must still lead to the same result in a sizable percentage of the population.

 

Just consider Covid as an example, a new mutation family like Omikron always starts from a single place and fights itself to the top by infection. It doesn't happen (to my knowledge) that the same mutation just happens everywhere in the world at the same time. 

 

In 21 weeks later zombie just starved to dead. They were just infected people not undead so - if this would be virus , people living on islands would be pretty save after few months. Even if would be a lot of people infected into walkers... still it woudn't be big deal for surviors in countries like USA or Switerland because a lot of guns and very slow zombie. Runners could be a problem but.... during zombie apocalypse not zombies are problems not even.... humans but... Nuclear plants without control. Just random plane could hit a nuclear plant and in the best situation - at least 100 km nearby is not suitable.

On 10/14/2022 at 1:34 PM, meganoth said:

 

And in the time it takes for the zombies to take over the city people would find out from the first failed attempts that sending in troops does not stop it. Once this information gets around the next step will be isolation, segmentation and/or establishing safe zones. But to get into detail we would need to know which type of zombie you are speaking about. Is the cause a virus or simply every death? Incubation time? Running or shambling? Iron-eating? ....

 

For any mass of zombies that can't breach concrete for example there are lots of buildings that can be fortified so they can't get in in any number. Put some soldiers with flame throwers and enough gasoline in such a building and let them make noise and they will be able to draw and mass kill the zombies we know from many movies. 

 

Well "pen" mines could slow zombie so much too so... except fungus zombie - zombie outbreak could be stop very fast but this depends on military decision what to do

[Maharin]

I think the Walking Dead's solution to the zombie apocalypse is one of the most effective.  Everybody is infected, the more you kill the more zombies you make.  That formula pretty much guarantees an apocalypse.

[Matt115]

1 hour ago, Maharin said:

I think the Walking Dead's solution to the zombie apocalypse is one of the most effective.  Everybody is infected, the more you kill the more zombies you make.  That formula pretty much guarantees an apocalypse.

Not so rly. In Fear of the Walking Dead there is a new info about zombie virus

Spoiler

It's human made virus and can create "running zombie" too. So if they create virus probably cure was created too ( if you create such weapon you want to be protected against it right?)

 

[meganoth]

3 hours ago, Maharin said:

I think the Walking Dead's solution to the zombie apocalypse is one of the most effective.  Everybody is infected, the more you kill the more zombies you make.  That formula pretty much guarantees an apocalypse.

 

The more you kill who? Zombies killing humans become zombies in all zombie apokalypes. and humans killing zombies can't generate zombies or they would be indestructible. So you must mean humans killing humans. That is a very "traditional" approach as it is similar to death rising from the graves but with a virus.

 

But knowledge of that fact would be a big deterrent to wars or murders as self-preservation kicks in. At least most murders would involve destroying the brain as all but the insane murderers are still interested in society working.

 

That leaves largely death by accident/sickness/age. The counter-strategy to these problems are again segmentation, production of lots of handcuffs and zombie-safe doors and rooms for patients and old people.

 

Accidents are not predictable so there would still be the need for everyone to always be prepared for small outbreaks and carry a weapon (melee as not everyone can be given firearms and fire arms are too dangerous to generate accidents aka friendly fire).  People with dangerous jobs would be given remote heart rate monitors and eventually (if modern electronics production survives) everyone would carry one.

 

 

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[Maharin]

1 hour ago, meganoth said:

 

The more you kill who? Zombies killing humans become zombies in all zombie apokalypes. and humans killing zombies can't generate zombies or they would be indestructible. So you must mean humans killing humans. That is a very "traditional" approach as it is similar to death rising from the graves but with a virus.

 

But knowledge of that fact would be a big deterrent to wars or murders as self-preservation kicks in. At least most murders would involve destroying the brain as all but the insane murderers are still interested in society working.

 

That leaves largely death by accident/sickness/age. The counter-strategy to these problems are again segmentation, production of lots of handcuffs and zombie-safe doors and rooms for patients and old people.

 

Accidents are not predictable so there would still be the need for everyone to always be prepared for small outbreaks and carry a weapon (melee as not everyone can be given firearms and fire arms are too dangerous to generate accidents aka friendly fire).  People with dangerous jobs would be given remote heart rate monitors and eventually (if modern electronics production survives) everyone would carry one.

 

 

 

In TWD if anyone died for any reason that did involve them losing their brain matter they would rise again and become a zombie (sickness, killed by zombie, killed by human, committed suicide, fell off a bridge, etc.).  Doesn't matter so long as their brain remains intact.  No amount of damage to a zombie outside their heads seemed to kill them.  Cut off their arms or legs and they will still drag themselves around as best they could.

 

As for everything else you are saying, all I can say is that you are being very naive.  People have always been selfish, especially wealthy/powerful people.  That won't change just because the poor and/or "ill prepared" are dying.  The rich and powerful will use the opportunity to gain more wealth and more power.  And if you think I'm jaded you should probably look around you and pay more attention to what is really going on in this world.

 

[Matt115]

4 hours ago, meganoth said:

 

The more you kill who? Zombies killing humans become zombies in all zombie apokalypes. and humans killing zombies can't generate zombies or they would be indestructible. So you must mean humans killing humans. That is a very "traditional" approach as it is similar to death rising from the graves but with a virus.

 

But knowledge of that fact would be a big deterrent to wars or murders as self-preservation kicks in. At least most murders would involve destroying the brain as all but the insane murderers are still interested in society working.

 

That leaves largely death by accident/sickness/age. The counter-strategy to these problems are again segmentation, production of lots of handcuffs and zombie-safe doors and rooms for patients and old people.

 

Accidents are not predictable so there would still be the need for everyone to always be prepared for small outbreaks and carry a weapon (melee as not everyone can be given firearms and fire arms are too dangerous to generate accidents aka friendly fire).  People with dangerous jobs would be given remote heart rate monitors and eventually (if modern electronics production survives) everyone would carry one.

 

 

Well there is even more problems too - kid can die while woman is pregnat - so lower chance to have children because being  eat from sound pretty like nightmare.  So execpt way like dunno - creating kids in lab there is no way for mankind to survive after 100-200 years

 

2 hours ago, Maharin said:

 

In TWD if anyone died for any reason that did involve them losing their brain matter they would rise again and become a zombie (sickness, killed by zombie, killed by human, committed suicide, fell off a bridge, etc.).  Doesn't matter so long as their brain remains intact.  No amount of damage to a zombie outside their heads seemed to kill them.  Cut off their arms or legs and they will still drag themselves around as best they could.

 

As for everything else you are saying, all I can say is that you are being very naive.  People have always been selfish, especially wealthy/powerful people.  That won't change just because the poor and/or "ill prepared" are dying.  The rich and powerful will use the opportunity to gain more wealth and more power.  And if you think I'm jaded you should probably look around you and pay more attention to what is really going on in this world.

 

 

Maharin not all brain but specifc part of brain (S1- doctor tested his wife before he blow up himself + in probably S4 guy in bath shot himself in head but stiill became zombie. - Walking Dead's Fast Zombies Break An 11-Season Rule (screenrant.com)  Well this

Now reason of dead maybe matter - at least in France. 

[meganoth]

3 hours ago, Maharin said:

 

In TWD if anyone died for any reason that did involve them losing their brain matter they would rise again and become a zombie (sickness, killed by zombie, killed by human, committed suicide, fell off a bridge, etc.).  Doesn't matter so long as their brain remains intact.  No amount of damage to a zombie outside their heads seemed to kill them.  Cut off their arms or legs and they will still drag themselves around as best they could.

 

And handcuffed to a bed that zombie would still be a manageable danger. Call the terminator with the spear. Yes, this is simplifying what would be extreme measures in a harsh and dangerous world. But as long as humanity can keep the zombies at low numbers.

 

3 hours ago, Maharin said:

 

As for everything else you are saying, all I can say is that you are being very naive.  People have always been selfish, especially wealthy/powerful people.  That won't change just because the poor and/or "ill prepared" are dying.  The rich and powerful will use the opportunity to gain more wealth and more power.  And if you think I'm jaded you should probably look around you and pay more attention to what is really going on in this world.

 

 

Sure they will try to gain more wealth and power. Who said anything against that. But what does that have to do with the topic? Covid made a few companies and rich people massively richer. And poor countries got the short straw. But concerning Covid, essentially it worked, the whole world put up new rules, ran around with masks and slowly got vaccinated. With the wealthy doing their own thing.  

 

What YOU are forgetting is that when civilization brakes down the rich may have the best chances to survive, sure, but they can't fly to Acapulco for a vacation anymore, go to the best doctor to get their face lifted or buy the newest yacht. They are as interested in an intact civilization as you are.

 

 

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[Matt115]

1 hour ago, meganoth said:

 

And handcuffed to a bed that zombie would still be a manageable danger. Call the terminator with the spear. Yes, this is simplifying what would be extreme measures in a harsh and dangerous world. But as long as humanity can keep the zombies at low numbers.

 

 

Sure they will try to gain more wealth and power. Who said anything against that. But what does that have to do with the topic? Covid made a few companies and rich people massively richer. And poor countries got the short straw. But concerning Covid, essentially it worked, the whole world put up new rules, ran around with masks and slowly got vaccinated. With the wealthy doing their own thing.  

 

What YOU are forgetting is that when civilization brakes down the rich may have the best chances to survive, sure, but they can't fly to Acapulco for a vacation anymore, go to the best doctor to get their face lifted or buy the newest yacht. They are as interested in an intact civilization as you are.

 

 

Well zombie outbreak don't need to be  fall of civilisation - to stop this can be used tactical nuke.  But okay let's say that civilisation falled. a lot of rich houses are like a fortress- barbed wire cameras, food storage ,helicopters , even some rich people have forest with rivers surrounding by fences etc. Even private island exist so there is a chance that rich person just evac on such island and wait until zombie will wiped out/ there will be almost no humans on "continent". Plus - some rich people live in secluded places. So i think that  guy have more chances that guy in typical flat. Another pro for island - easy to monitor and hard to find.  Ofc you can use map but without  GPS for typical civilan it would be impossible to find. So yeah situation is pretty good. In TWD  Someone Figured Out How Many People Are Still Alive In The Walking Dead Universe, And It's Crazy | Cinemablend after 614 days there is 382 885 survivors and unknown number of zombie. Okay - let's say they don't have to worry about left nuclear warheads and nuclear plant to blow up - probably 5 000 of them can be people hired by rich people before zombie outbreak + their familes ( it's good to have loyal stuff  right?) - if scientist are correct - enough to rebuild civilsation. Still much better situation that nuclear war or attack of aliens. Well 28 is about that - rich company decided to recreate city in UK after zombie outbreak - this allow them to create automatic "smart" city - ofc they failed because inteligent zombie but who could expect.  In TWD virus is not like B4B parasite - just accident but was made by humans- so there is a chance that's some people are immune against this virus and conclusions from first few seasons. 

But what about "fungus" zombies in "girl with all gift style" - well in this situation well everyone would probably became zombie. 

 

Parasite type of zombie would be very dangerous for everyone if can multiply in water and everyone wouild became zombie like in fungus sitation. 

So... everything depends on type of zombie

Edited October 17, 2022 by Matt115 (see edit history)

[Roland]

I see the Covid pandemic as the perfect pre-cursor to a global zombie pandemic having already caused the world to feel "quarantine fatigue".  If a brand new epidemic sprang up today I doubt we would even have toilet paper shortages and an even larger percentage would just say no thank you to "stay in place and shelter" policies. With the population resistant to going back to the policies of 2020 and nobody wanting to do distance learning again for school and all the small businesses who barely made it through to the end of 2021 absolutely refusing to shut down again, I could see a fast spreading virus take much of the world before people resigned themselves to go back to a Covid 2020 lifestyle.

 

We all know someone who still acts like its 2020... they will be the ones who live the longest-- especially if they also happen to be Preppers as well...haha

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[Matt115]

12 hours ago, Roland said:

I see the Covid pandemic as the perfect pre-cursor to a global zombie pandemic having already caused the world to feel "quarantine fatigue".  If a brand new epidemic sprang up today I doubt we would even have toilet paper shortages and an even larger percentage would just say no thank you to "stay in place and shelter" policies. With the population resistant to going back to the policies of 2020 and nobody wanting to do distance learning again for school and all the small businesses who barely made it through to the end of 2021 absolutely refusing to shut down again, I could see a fast spreading virus take much of the world before people resigned themselves to go back to a Covid 2020 lifestyle.

 

We all know someone who still acts like its 2020... they will be the ones who live the longest-- especially if they also happen to be Preppers as well...haha

There is a big diffrent bettwen covid and zombie virus. Normal person woudn't see virus while zombie would see without problems. Let's say that started outbreak in small city in USA. Live stream , photos everwhere so even if police/military would deal fast with outbreake - still all around world would start economical crash riots robbery because.... a lot of people watched zombie movies right so they would try to get food, weapons etc. start blame each other, create theories about zombie virus etc. So while zombie outbreak could be stopped pretty fast , consequences would be terrible

[meganoth]

35 minutes ago, Matt115 said:

There is a big diffrent bettwen covid and zombie virus. Normal person woudn't see virus while zombie would see without problems. Let's say that started outbreak in small city in USA. Live stream , photos everwhere so even if police/military would deal fast with outbreake - still all around world would start economical crash riots robbery because.... a lot of people watched zombie movies right so they would try to get food, weapons etc. start blame each other, create theories about zombie virus etc. So while zombie outbreak could be stopped pretty fast , consequences would be terrible

 

Exactly. I would really really like to see the report on fox news where a self-proclaimed "scientist" explains that all the humans eating other humans in the videos are just having a harmless form of rabies 😉

 

 

[Roland]

1 hour ago, Matt115 said:

There is a big diffrent bettwen covid and zombie virus.

Where did I say they were the same thing?  I wasn’t comparing the real virus with the hypothetical virus or even the manner in which it spread and how a zombie virus spread. I was simply talking about social fatigue and resistance over taking the strong measures that would be required if a new pandemic hit….zombie or otherwise. 

[Matt115]

1 minute ago, Roland said:

Where did I say they were the same thing?  I wasn’t comparing the real virus with the hypothetical virus or even the manner in which it spread and how a zombie virus spread. I was simply talking about social fatigue and resistance over taking the strong measures that would be required if a new pandemic hit….zombie or otherwise. 

I mean : at least there would be reaction of people about zombie virus because "normal" virus would be "boring" so people would don't care about that

[Roland]

8 minutes ago, Matt115 said:

I mean : at least there would be reaction of people about zombie virus because "normal" virus would be "boring" so people would don't care about that

What if the first highly contagious stage was simply flu-like symptoms and by time the news showed footage of a guy eating another guy it was too late because a significant percentage of the population refused to do social distancing and home lock downs for “flu-like symptoms” again?  

If I knew I had had flu-like symptoms that lead to a zombie outcome then there would be nothing for it but to either go out an buy a wardrobe I could get inside of or more simply, head up to the attic and pick out a nice rafter to sit on…

Edited October 17, 2022 by Roland (see edit history)

[meganoth]

2 hours ago, Roland said:

What if the first highly contagious stage was simply flu-like symptoms and by time the news showed footage of a guy eating another guy it was too late because a significant percentage of the population refused to do social distancing and home lock downs for “flu-like symptoms” again?  

If I knew I had had flu-like symptoms that lead to a zombie outcome then there would be nothing for it but to either go out an buy a wardrobe I could get inside of or more simply, head up to the attic and pick out a nice rafter to sit on…

 

Yes, but you are now moving the goal posts. This is why it is so important to define the circumstances of the zombie plague. Only then can others assess if they agree or disagree.

 

But to continue: With adding the flu you added a new highly superior ability to the virus. In reality viruses are rather simple, they don't even count as a lifeform if I'm not mistaken. Making people into zombies is already a tall order for a virus, assuming it also can hide as a flu is a miracle on top of a miracle. Adding enough miracle-like-abilities to a virus is nine tenth of the way to make it invincible. Unless you postulate some glaring weakness into it as well the world is simply done for, social fatigue or not.

 

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by meganoth (see edit history)

[Fenris]

16 hours ago, Roland said:

I see the Covid pandemic as the perfect pre-cursor to a global zombie pandemic having already caused the world to feel "quarantine fatigue".  If a brand new epidemic sprang up today I doubt we would even have toilet paper shortages and an even larger percentage would just say no thank you to "stay in place and shelter" policies. With the population resistant to going back to the policies of 2020 and nobody wanting to do distance learning again for school and all the small businesses who barely made it through to the end of 2021 absolutely refusing to shut down again, I could see a fast spreading virus take much of the world before people resigned themselves to go back to a Covid 2020 lifestyle.

 

We all know someone who still acts like its 2020... they will be the ones who live the longest-- especially if they also happen to be Preppers as well...haha

Imagine if all you had to do to avoid the zombie virus was to wear a mask ...... yeah America would be screwed 😄 Not sure about other countries, I just know over here there was some .... resistance to wearing one. I wonder if the same people who had Covid parties would also have Zombie parties 🤔

[Matt115]

2 hours ago, Roland said:

What if the first highly contagious stage was simply flu-like symptoms and by time the news showed footage of a guy eating another guy it was too late because a significant percentage of the population refused to do social distancing and home lock downs for “flu-like symptoms” again?  

If I knew I had had flu-like symptoms that lead to a zombie outcome then there would be nothing for it but to either go out an buy a wardrobe I could get inside of or more simply, head up to the attic and pick out a nice rafter to sit on…

You remind me guy who was wearing plague doctor in my city suit in 2019 XD But if this would be just flu symptoms.... you coudn't know if this is just flu or virus.

 

1 hour ago, meganoth said:

 

Yes, but you are now moving the goal posts. This is why it is so important to define the circumstances of the zombie plague. Only then can others assess if they agree or disagree.

 

But to continue: With adding the flu you added a new highly superior ability to the virus. In reality viruses are rather simple, they don't even count as a lifeform if I'm not mistaken. Making people into zombies is already a tall order for a virus, assuming it also can hide as a flu is a miracle on top of a miracle. Adding enough miracle-like-abilities to a virus is nine tenth of the way to make it invincible. Unless you postulate some glaring weakness into it as well the world is simply done for, social fatigue or not.

 

 

Well - viruses are simple but it's possible to manipulate their RNA or DNA.  human made zombie virus as weapon? this sound realistic. Now exist fungus zombie ants so maybe mix DNA of this fungus and some type of virus could create zombie virus

[Roland]

1 hour ago, meganoth said:

 

Yes, but you are now moving the goal posts. This is why it is so important to define the circumstances of the zombie plague. Only then can others assess if they agree or disagree.

 

But to continue: With adding the flu you added a new highly superior ability to the virus. In reality viruses are rather simple, they don't even count as a lifeform if I'm not mistaken. Making people into zombies is already a tall order for a virus, assuming it also can hide as a flu is a miracle on top of a miracle. Adding enough miracle-like-abilities to a virus is nine tenth of the way to make it invincible. Unless you postulate some glaring weakness into it as well the world is simply done for, social fatigue or not.

 

 

 

Woah, woah...I'm not adding the flu to the zombie virus. I'm saying that the first stage of the zombie virus presents as flu-like symptoms. Lots of illnesses have flu-like symptoms since flu-like symptoms simply means a fever, chills, aches, and nausea or some combinations of those things. That's not a tall order at all. If people who caught the virus spent the first week with a fever and some aches before things progressed to classic zombie/rabid behavior there would be a lot of time lost for quarantining during the critical phase since quite a lot of people would be resistant to locking down and sheltering again. Even in The Walking Dead-- at least during the first season they showed people who got bit as getting a fever first.

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[meganoth]

34 minutes ago, Roland said:

 

Woah, woah...I'm not adding the flu to the zombie virus. I'm saying that the first stage of the zombie virus presents as flu-like symptoms. Lots of illnesses have flu-like symptoms since flu-like symptoms simply means a fever, chills, aches, and nausea or some combinations of those things. That's not a tall order at all. If people who caught the virus spent the first week with a fever and some aches before things progressed to classic zombie/rabid behavior there would be a lot of time lost for quarantining during the critical phase since quite a lot of people would be resistant to locking down and sheltering again. Even in The Walking Dead-- at least during the first season they showed people who got bit as getting a fever first.

 

Are you only adding the symptoms and a sort of second incubation period? (*). Or transmission over the air as well?

 

Because your talk about distancing rules seems to suggest the latter. Quite non-traditional compared to most zombie movies. And it makes a huge difference in results.

 

 

(*) I am talking about a second incubation period because the first one would be from infection to showing flu symptoms. The second one would until showing "eating people" symptoms. To analyse what would happen at first we can simply ignore the flu symptoms since they would be largely ignored anyway and set the time from infection to biting as incubation. And then it will be undoubtedly a global pandemic but the zombie plague will have problems generating the numbers to overwhelm human population as the humans have a lot of time to adapt before zombies can show up in numbers and multiply.

 

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[Roland]

I see what you're saying. If the virus can only be transmitted by fluid exchange via a bite then, yes, I agree that a global zombie pandemic is extremely far-fetched.

[theFlu]

3 hours ago, meganoth said:

But to continue: With adding the flu you added a new highly superior ability to the virus. In reality viruses are rather simple, they don't even count as a lifeform if I'm not mistaken. Making people into zombies is already a tall order for a virus, assuming it also can hide as a flu is a miracle on top of a miracle.

Oi! I think you're selling us a little short here.. rabies is also a viral infection, we just haven't gotten around to do a collab as of yet. If he agrees to chill a bit for a few days after spreading to the brain, I think we could cook up something spectacular.

[ElDudorino]

This philosophical discussion ignores the fact that zombie infections are magical in nature in basically all media, other than maybe 28 Days Later.

 

In The Walking Dead they play it up as a disease but you have zombies melted into the ground with nothing left but half of their head and they're still 'alive.' And decapitation stops everything below the neck but somehow the head still tries to bite you, and it never relies on any fuel from a body. That's necromancy at work. In 7 Days to Die you have crawler zombies whose bodies are almost completely destroyed and drained of blood but you can poke them and make them bleed to death. Plus you have burning zombies you can kill with fire. That's necromancy mixed with drugs.

 

In short, everything you think you know about how the disease could work will go out the window once our dark lords actually rise up and decide to rid the planet of us.