bjurney Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 In A16 you used to be able to combine like items to increase the quality of said item. Was this removed from A17? Didn't see it mentioned in the change log, so not sure if it was removed, its a bug or its now perk based. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25toLife Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I just assumed it was removed since tools now have 6 quality levels instead of 600. Also repairing tools no longer drops the quality so I feel like there is little need for combining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Yes, because there is no QL anymore, just tiers which correspond to the old QL range bands combined with the fact that repairing an item doesn't cost durability anymore there is just no reason to allow combines now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katitof Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It was removed, because its redundant with new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbluebeer Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Actually, being able to combine to repair things would be useful. No increasing of lvl, but having a bunch of tier 1 axes all broke, and no iron to fix.. (trader didn't have iron in stock, and no forge found kinda thing) Wrenches need steel, same deal. Not gamebreaking without it, but would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecksfiftyone Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Yeah, I have several level 1 pistols with 10% - 50% durability left. I miss not being able to take them apart and combine the best parts to make a better weapon. I'd like to be able to at least combine 2 pistols to increase the durability not necessarily the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 There's a Mod to add it back in. Check out the Mod section. I've tried it. It's okay. Mostly it's for getting rid of level 1 garbage you can't sell. Warning, it's definitely got some exploits so... use at your own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krougal Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I missed it at first, because I thought the same thing - oh trader won't buy anymore guns, he has a working workbench, I might as well combine these nearly broken ones...it...doesn't work...piss, ♥♥♥♥ and corruption. Forged iron easy enough to obtain and by extension repair kits. No crying - find a working forge or get off your ass and get to level 20 - I'm done listening to anyone who claims it is "such a hardship" in A17. It really isn't. If the trader has a forge I'm making an anvil, cookpot and forged iron by the 2nd morning. A few starts I have been unlucky and the trader doesn't have a working forge and I can't find a good (or even any) forgehouse nearby then I suck it up and deal with it. It provides the variety people claim is missing from early game, when what I'd like to do and what is practical for me to do don't mesh up and I must adapt. Steel? Yes, it sucks when you find a steel tool in that nearby car you loot before you even did your starter quests and you've broken it and can't find steel (and sometimes steel is easy to find/trade and sometimes not), yes, level 40 is a bit further away than even I'd like. Steel isn't the huge upgrade from iron that iron is from stone. It sucks not being able to repair your only wrench even more, but then there isn't really the urgency to start wrenching until level 40 anyway (and those guns that you can't sell or combine can be scrapped for mechanical parts, so there is half your bicycle done ) - it's easy to deal with. Don't get me wrong - if you hate it, go mod it. All I'm doing is sharing tips on how not to hate it and how first impressions not always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khulkhuum Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Forged Iron and Steel can be traded or found. The tools you find have at least a little amount of durability, so you can use them to scramble at least a couple things. Just remember that you can dismantle destroyed stations, not only cards, lights, etc. and some of them might give you Forged Iron or Steel (don't remember correctly now). Even at my "peaceful" save i found already 4 wrenches, some Forged Iron and bought some Steel from the trader. A dropped crate got me an AK47 and a Marksman Rifle, but i found a Pistol and a Hunting Rifle in a POI, as well as 2 Hunting Knives. Combining items only wastes them at the moment (if ever will be possible). Tools and weapons with 0 durability are unsuable, but even with 1 durability you hit with your full force and get the same amount of resources/damage output as if it had max durability. The only difference is higher tier items have more durability. So if you combine items, their worth is diminished and you don't even get the little resources as if melting it in a forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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