Game quits at "loading block textures"

[Rotor]

1 hour ago, Jugginator said:

 

Yeah, pretty much, you download a new driver, boot into safe mode, use DDU to uninstall the old driver, reboot, install the new driver.

 

And no that's nothing with that known issue, that's hardware/driver.

 

"GPU: Microsoft Basic Render Driver (4061 MB)"

 

Yeah, that tells me your GPU driver failed horribly. That's what happens when... well, let's just say that happens when the absolute worst things happen lol. See how it goes with the fresh driver install.

 

"You're killing me smalls"

 

Hope it just a "dirty" driver issue.  I did the DDU thing.

 

BTW, wonder why it fails on ini, but not during long sessions.  Like I have yet to have the game freeze or system lock up during game play.

[Jugginator]

13 hours ago, Rotor said:

 

"You're killing me smalls"

 

Hope it just a "dirty" driver issue.  I did the DDU thing.

 

BTW, wonder why it fails on ini, but not during long sessions.  Like I have yet to have the game freeze or system lock up during game play.

 

Well, not having a system lockup is a good sign. Likely failing because it's having issue initializing everything properly, if you get lucky it may get it done without failure and allow you to play. Just speculating.

[Rotor]

DDU appears to have done the trick.  I have done 2 hot launches (i.e. no restarts) with not issues.

 

I did a stress test of the GPU with no issues as well.

 

/fingerscrossed

[Jugginator]

Nice! Fingers crossed as well, am hoping your GPU is okay.

[Rotor]

Is back. 

 

So, something in the system doesnt like the game, or something in the game doesnt like my system.  I have run all hardware tests that I can think of.  Other than reinstalling the OS, which I am not inclined to do so atm, I iwll just be restarting the system before playing.....like the old days if Win95 heh.

[BFT2020]

The next time you play the game without restarting your system, check the memory allocation.  I recall having a similar issue in a previous computer of mine where memory was not being unallocated to a game so it had a lot less free memory when I tried to play a different game.  Restarting the computer always fixed the issue for me which is how I found out the issue eventually.

[Rotor]

How do I look a mem allocation?  Are you talking about Virtual file?  Right now windows is managing it.

[Rotor]

Do this?

https://www.techdim.com/allocate-more-ram-to-a-program/

[Rotor]

This one sounds better.  Question is, how much ram from the 16gig the system has?

 

Can You Allocate More RAM To Steam Games?

Like the other methods above, you can't manually adjust Steam games to use a certain amount of memory. However, with a bit of tinkering with the settings, you can fix lag and low FPS problems using the in-app 'Launch Options'.

Follow these steps:

1. In your Steam Library, right-click on the game you wish to allocate more RAM and select Properties.
2. Here you'll find the Launch Options under the General tab.
3. You can use various commands in this box, but for now, we'll be using the -heapsize command.
4. Type -heapsize <value>, where <value> is the amount of RAM in KB you want to dedicate as cache for the game (Example: -heapsize 6291456).

[BFT2020]

1 hour ago, Rotor said:

How do I look a mem allocation?  Are you talking about Virtual file?  Right now windows is managing it.

 

No, what I am talking about is this

 

https://www.partitionwizard.com/partitionmagic/window-10-standby-memory.html

[Rotor]

Nada, no help.  Thanks for trying.

[Jugginator]

What does the GPU device list in the output log? Does it say the Microsoft driver again? Also, it may help to check your event viewer to see if anything is reporting errors. You can export the Application and System one and give them to me and I'll have a look.

[Rotor]

I will when I get home.

 

I saw a system unexpectedly shutdown.

 

But before that there is few com and permissions errors.

 

Btw I never saw that line you quoted.  So I thought I was missing something.  

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by Rotor (see edit history)

[Jugginator]

Yeah when you see that, it means the driver failed horribly and it reverted to the Microsoft basic driver, it's proven and known to work with pretty much anything so when stuff happens it'll go to that. Event viewer may prove useful, so we'll look at that next. 

[Rotor]

@Jugginator PM sent.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Rotor (see edit history)

[Jugginator]

The bugcheck was: 0x00000101 (0x0000000000000018, 0x0000000000000000, 0xffffb781dfb23180, 0x0000000000000002)

 

<Data Name="BugcheckCode">257</Data>

 

Just putting discoveries out there, so far it's starting to look like a GPU hardware failure

[Rotor]

@Jugginator  I PM'd this.  But as a follow up for anyone else that may experience this issue.  Beside a system restart, I have found and successfully tested numerous time during the last 18 hours, that if I use the my Steam Library "Play" button the game fires up consistently every time.  Now, this is a "workaround" in my opinion, but it keeps me from rebooting.  There is probably something whack in the registry, jug suggested I delete any fun pimps entries in the registry....but I wont do that just yet.  Got other irons in the fire, and for now I am content with going through the library.  In a couple of weeks I will have more time to screw around with registry.

 

Or there is something wrong with my game launcher, by the way, the desktop shorcut created by steam doesnt work either, it suffers from the same ailment.  What I dont know what is so different about those two vs the Steam library launch.

[Rotor]

Just an update.  I had been playing all fat dum and happy since the last post using the steam "Play" button or choosing the game from the steam app in system tray.  Then Steam updated yesterday and BAM! proceeded to lock up during loading block textures.  Weird fecal matter if you ask me heh.

 

Anyways, I forced a game verification and launched fine afterwards.

[Rotor]

Good day all,

 

Sorry for the necro, but this issue continued on and off.  I had to take some time off game and came back to A21.  I took the oppurtunity to remove the game, clean the registry from any fun pimp stuff.  Did a clean download and install from steam, and BAM!  Back to square one.  Frustrated and not wanting to reboot every time and went searching around the interwebz and came accross this site:

 

https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-clear-ram-cache/

 

Now, I didnt do all of that, but concentrated on the temporary files section and by doing this:

• 
   
• Press Windows + ‘I’ to open Settings.
• Navigate to System>Storage.Select Temporary files.
  Spoiler

  • 
  • Click on Remove files.

I can play every time without any issues.  Thinking being graphics related, I tried a couple of times just deleting DX Shader Cache, but it still happened.

So, I dont know what the game stores in the other places, but either it cant find it or my system wont let it find it and it locks up.

 

Thoughts?

 

[Jugginator]

Going to be brutally honest here, you may be chasing the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. When you get the Microsoft basic driver automatically installed instead of an nvidia/amd/intel driver like this, it's because either the driver was corrupted or the driver failed to communicate correctly, the latter of which usually (I would say always because it's always the case, but never say never is something I believe in) is either a failed part in the GPU or system incompatibility (e.g. a system built for, say, windows XP or 7 and that hardware configuration just doesn't work with windows 10/11, I have seen this at least once with someone, their GPU could only get drivers working correctly on windows 7).

 

I'm sure that site said it, but "ram cache" is wiped out with a system restart, so nothing special there. There won't be anything in the temporary files that would do this. The only (at least to my knowledge) thing that would be causing this would be something badly corrupted in the OS system, which you could go down the route of using DISM to clean it up, but sometimes just cutting it short and going the nuclear route of just reinstalling the OS (or using the "Refresh" option) is the route to go to save time troubleshooting (did DISM miss corruption? is DISM corrupted too so it won't find corruption? etc). If you still can't get a driver installed, then you've isolated it to the GPU or motherboard (I only added motherboard because I never say never, but that's one unlikely case). I would try a known good GPU first, though, that's a very quick test. Even something dirt cheap like a 20$-30$ card as long as it's known to work is a good tester. Even cheaper. If it outputs video and is able to install and keep a manufacturer driver -- you know it means it's your other GPU.

On 8/25/2023 at 7:57 PM, Rotor said:

Good day all,

 

Sorry for the necro, but this issue continued on and off.  I had to take some time off game and came back to A21.  I took the oppurtunity to remove the game, clean the registry from any fun pimp stuff.  Did a clean download and install from steam, and BAM!  Back to square one.  Frustrated and not wanting to reboot every time and went searching around the interwebz and came accross this site:

 

https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-clear-ram-cache/

 

Now, I didnt do all of that, but concentrated on the temporary files section and by doing this:

• 
   
• Press Windows + ‘I’ to open Settings.
• Navigate to System>Storage.Select Temporary files.
    Reveal hidden contents

  • 
  • Click on Remove files.

I can play every time without any issues.  Thinking being graphics related, I tried a couple of times just deleting DX Shader Cache, but it still happened.

So, I dont know what the game stores in the other places, but either it cant find it or my system wont let it find it and it locks up.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[The_Great_Sephiroth]

I just read through this thread because it was bumped and my gut (and thirty years of experience in the field) are screaming hardware or driver issue. If it was my system, I would backup my documents/pictures/saves/etc, boot a Linux USB, zero each sector on the disk (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd<x> bs=<512 or 4096>), then pop in a Windows 10 or 11 USB and install fresh.

 

The way I install ANY Windows OS these days is to disconnect from the Internet (unplug your LAN cable and don't connect to WiFi during install), download the latest drivers for the hardware using a live USB or download them before wiping and place them onto a USB, copy the drivers to "C:\Drivers" after install, then install said drivers BEFORE going online. This prevents Windows Update from pulling bad drivers down, which it WILL do. This also allows you to configure Windows Update and other things BEFORE going online and having to fight all of the "automagic" stuff.

[Beelzybub]

Wait, what? Your C:drive is a USB flash drive?

On 8/25/2023 at 4:57 PM, Rotor said:

this issue continued

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by Beelzybub
Adding pic (see edit history)

[The_Great_Sephiroth]

Beelzy, that is common in the Unix/Linux/BSD world. Not so much on Windows. I will say that I have a home-made version of 10 64bit that runs from a flash-drive and contains all of my tools. I couldn't do my job without it. No, it isn't for download since the software is licensed to me, but it's an amazing tool to make if you build your own!

[Rotor]

@Beelzybub sorry that screen shot if from the website, not my system.  It was part of the copy paste :/.

[Beelzybub]

On 8/31/2023 at 12:05 PM, The_Great_Sephiroth said:

that is common in the Unix/Linux/BSD world

Ya, but not common to run an everyday gaming system. So, I stand by my "wait, what?".