Roland

Well....May isn't off the table. It's just looking pretty unlikely due to Memorial Day Weekend being the only weekend left in May. Maybe the developers themselves will put out an official "delayed to June" announcement on their Twitter once it is clear that it definitely won't be in May if that does indeed become the case. It really doesn't matter how much they joked and laughed about their release time estimate during the stream. It was clearly an estimate with the golden caveat of "as long as everything goes well" attached to it. It really is silly that anyone would be upset if the release doesn't happen until June unless they considered the estimate to be a promise.. I'm all for them doing a video or a tweet with an official update of where things stand. Whether that would actually calm anyone down or not is debatable. People only want good news even though they might claim that ANY news would be wonderful.

I think it is time to move on from this topic. Please.

Because you said that, now all anyone can do is touch grass ironically. My days of innocent grass touching are gone forever, thanks. EDIT: I just read what I wrote and realized that I've most likely invoked Snowdog...

They're pretty busy trying to not continue disappointing you in those other areas you mentioned....

I don't believe I have ever spoken to you directly. What arrogance are you reading into my posts? Your first post ever was a snarky quip about how the change of release window somehow doesn't count as communication and your second post ever is castigating me for the responses others gave to you that your characterization of what does or doesn't count as communication is extremely limited. I didn't say a word to you until now. Here's your problem: You think I'm a customer service rep in the same vein as some hotel clerk who must take whatever crap a customer dishes and always return a smile and a servile will to please. If you can't adjust your view on this then you're just going to continue to be angry and steamed as you read the forums. You think that a video game site about a game dealing with zombies and irreverent humor while surviving should be as professional and sterile as a forum for St Jude's or the Mayo Clinic. If you think I'm not going to be playful with the subject matter we discuss then you are going to be disappointed again and again. You believe Saven too ardently.... You are welcome to post and participate but only if you can get a bit more playful.

Right…and if we had kept it as May all the way to the 30th and then changed it to June you would’ve LYAO that we kept it saying May when we knew it would probably slip to June. Don’t you want communication? It’s looking like June is as likely or more likely as May at this point so we updated the information to reflect reality.

I tried it in A21 and the jeep lost about 20% health when I landed on the street. No biggie. I tried it again and this time I hit the edge of a nearby shorter building and then a trash bin and then the ground so about 60% damage. I also tried jumping with only 11% damage and hit the edge of the building again and the jeep exploded as it made additional impacts before hitting the ground. I lived though. So...solid health and a clean landing are important for Evil Kneivaling in A21

No hate....but no vacuum either. You made yourself the spokesperson for all those voices you shared. That makes you the focus point for any disagreement over what those voices are saying. You and your people don't want the process to be one of subtraction. You only want it to be one of addition. You are calling upon the developers to see all these voices you found that match yours to convince them to end their method of removing and changing previous and existing features and instead switch to restoring what was removed and to only add to the game going forward. Your message is understood and received.

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I wouldn't even call it auto-repairing since any and all reinforcements, pathways, funnels, fall-backs, crates of backup supplies, etc that you worked into the POI would be erased. It wouldn't repair your enhancements, it would remove them and you would have to rebuild and resupply all of them. If I ever got a quest to the POI that I was using for a horde base I would cancel it as soon as I saw the exclamation point sitting in my front yard... But I think he was assuming that most players who take over POIs do it because they just want to quickly destroy access to the second floor and simply shoot from above and not enhance anything or add any defenses.

Its looking more like June all the time. This weekend is most likely out if it hasn't been announced yet and next weekend is a big holiday in the USA (which TFP observes) so...yeah.

I approve. The more critical injuries the game can have the better. They should bring back food poisoning as well. Make it so the vomit chance doesn't start until you reach a certain percent of sickness so that there is some time to treat before it might happen.

It may be impossible simply from an execution standpoint. Happy players don't feel the same motivation to create a huge collage of positive statements. Only someone extremely motivated due to their desire for change would go through the tedium of cutting and pasting that many responses together--- twice! Then again, they do enjoy watching wet concrete dry....

I'm not sure what the fuss is here. I've been changing it up between building my own base and taking over POI's since Alpha 6. There have always been concrete and brick building that offer a solid start to any base. Even before there were traders it was common for people (who wanted to) to take over POI's and use them as base starters. I do it in about the same ratio as I ever did before. If anything, the incentive that drove me to more often build a base from scratch was when traders could spawn in the wilderness and there were no nearby buildings. Rather than traveling from a more distant POI that I could convert, I found it more convenient to set up my own base nearby the trader. Before traders it was pretty much as whimsy took me and ever since traders have been mostly showing up in cities it is back to that practice depending on my mood. I remember when there was a cabin that spawned with an almost guaranteed working forge inside of it. We almost always converted that cabin to our base so there was an incentive that went against creating our own from scratch. But then all workstations were spawned broken and I think that cabin is no longer in the game or is so changed I don't recognize it anyway....so that could be seen as an incentive to just build your own place from scratch. I really don't see much change in how people are pushed or pulled to build from scratch or reinforce a POI. Seems to still be simply a matter of preference.

And this is your and others’ big stumbling block to being able to enjoy early access. Cuts, removals, edits, and streamlining is always part of the creative process for unfinished works. Usually we don’t see those things as we only get games in their finished form. Movies are a great parallel example for this. During the editing process after all the shooting is done, there is rarely any more additional footage shot. It is almost always a process of deleting and editing out footage deemed unnecessary. The problem you have is that even though you understand that the game is not finished from an intellectual standpoint, you don’t want to believe it from an emotional standpoint. Updates during early access are not DLC expansions to a complete game. They are going to include removals that never make a return. As you say, for those who never experienced previous versions there is no disappointment or feeling of loss. That will be even truer for those who purchase the final finished product. After the game goes gold, any future updates are likely to be exactly what you want—pure content expansion. It’s very unlikely they will change or remove anything that already exists. Until that time, we are in the editing and streamlining phase and you either need to reconcile yourself to that or just put the game aside until the final product is presented. All of those negative reviews are from people who are either ignorant or don’t want to face the fact that the game isn’t finished and updates aren’t simply expansionary. They shouldn’t have participated at this stage. Early access isn’t for them.

Even if it doesn't come out in May their word is still good since they stated quite clearly from the beginning that May was an estimate and a hope and that would happen as long as nothing caused a delay.

You're fine. I'm just glad you were able to find your people.

I used the "most likely" card. It is my escape clause.

It is a virus that infects the zombies but the infection we get in the game isn’t zombie infection. It’s just regular bacterial infection that gets cured by antibiotics. Most likely our character is immune to the zombie virus. If we die we just get eaten. We don’t turn. heh..I don’t think the Fun Pimps feel constrained by the supposed limits of plague zombie science. The zombies can already tear through concrete and steel with bare hands. TFP creates and simply says, “Suspend your disbelief of THAT, @%$#es!” LOL

me too. I help them get all the way there. 😂

Out of curiosity why is a zombie that reacts to pain duller than a zombie that doesn’t? In my opinion they could leave the pain responses in or take them out and it wouldn’t affect the excitement of the gameplay in the slightest.

I don't know. I think iron gut still increases how long you can stay underwater.

Nah... we swim so much better in A21. Even if you have to rest a moment you can still keep ahead of them. I was able to build a deep underwater support column up to the surface between surfacing for air and keeping away from zombies swimming around me. We are quite a bit more agile in water in A21.

They could cut the zombie bears in half and double the zombie dogs instead.

I’d like to believe that nobody around here is naive enough to get upset with my casual assumption that A22 will take a yearish to complete. If it really does take less time then great but if anyone felt trolled by my comment then they deserve it