Rotor

I get that a lot too, specially when posting. I thought it was because i am behind a VPN.

So, ASSuming that a change in play style was not the intent, then a method of collecting water not involving trader (yes, I know water filters can be "found" if at all) should be an acceptable solution, no? Unless the play style change was intended, then well "fuhgeddaboudit".

The water Jars, having disappeared from the game, the rogue code has bogged down the forum.

Fair enough. So then the first take of "to make it more in line with" has morphed into 'we are changing play styles', or perhaps it was an "unforseen consequences"? So, once again, it is not about the JARs at all. But is the medium that exposed an underlying issue, whether intended or unintended. Therefor I think we are back to "It sucks, there is a mod for that" "It is TFP's game suck it up or make your own" Unless it was an "unforseen consequences" then would it not benefit TFP to make it part of Vanilla?

I am with you on this one. I just wanted to know what makes a bucket MOD "trivial". You have to craft bucket, go to water source, collect, bring back to camp, boil, then consume. Reads like a process to me. That is fine, hide the bucket in however many gates DevVille wants. Atleast at some point you can have a choice go loot PoI or go to the lake and smell the roses while you get a bucket of water. I mean they already did that with the cooking grill.

So, can we forget the water jars for a minute? Does the bucket mod make it "trivial"?

Can I ask why you feel it wont be useful? Or are you miplying DevVille will not "fix" it?

Sure, blame a mod for clumsiness :). That is what I tell the missus when I knock something over. "ya babe, my elbows were sticking out."

I hope not........but I fear such is the trend of games that start sandboxy and then the masses demand "content". ...or be lead into content. As long as some of this stuff doesnt become hard code that you cant get out of it via mods. Maybe this year I will have more time to learn and actually get on with my own vision.

Missed it. Will give it a shot.

I had not visited the MODs forum in a while, and missed this. I am glad it was referenced in the General section :). I will try it out, but it may be a couple of weeks before I can really roll with it. Thank you for the effort and will advise.

NP, for a second I thought I missed an Alpha :).

Not my experience, but maybe is just the RnGeezus who hates me. I also play no quest, no buy from traders, but I do sell to traders and buy from vending machines. Because I have been forced to by the change. I usually do this prior to BM, so as not to use any Jars I may have found during the day. In my case the change forces me to a PoI every day. I like PoIs and exploring, is why dont quest. But I like to do it on my own terms, like it used to be. I can give 2 poops about the water jars. Unless you remove the rivers and lakes from the game world and make all water radioactive then I should be able to carry my pot over yonder, for as long as I want/am able to walk and fill'er up. I play 100% loot no respawn, 60 min days. It irks me, but I play /shrugs.

I run bottom 25% most of the time LOL, unless I am going into a "situation"...or BM. Otherwise, just caps of water no bottles :).

That is just dirty.

On games where I can load mod sounds, I always fall back to ole "I have come to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum."

Dire wolves are bad arse, but I usually have enough arrows. Dire bears....argh! If I can find a high spot before I die, I hopefully have enough arrows. Otherwise I way him out ..if I can. There is a dire/feral Zombie at one of the motels that has the semi trailer shipping container. That one is always there even on first day...........although cant remember if I've visited it in A21.

Heh, I think is one of those things when there is a start with an idea, then start typing and rant mode is triggered before the initial thought is typed out. Is almost an in-game "rage quit" but on the forums. Quite entertaining at times.

One of these days I will get to a tier 5 PoI. My goal is not to accomplish them, but to carve a trench around it am dynamite it to oblivion. If that is possible.

Might need a thicker needle but i think there is still use for them?

When I gotta get up and go, I just go, I dont get up but what I can carry. Or if I have it, whatever the bike can carry :). That is why I call it a soft reset.

I look at that as "soft" game reset.

It is the way I play, except I do allow myself to visit to sell. And I add dead is dead, even before it was an option. I do agree that is a totally a different game, and it does feel lonely, and progression is slow. IMO it is the better game . Congrats on giving it a whirl. I do use the mod to craft water filter. Although initially I played without it, it became too heavy loot centrist for my taste.

I believe there is MOD that has a sleep mechanic.

If Depends are being used on the person then there is no need for the toilet.