[Possible Bug - Phantom Blocks - I Believe It's a Long-Known Problem]

10 minutes ago, Shefanhow said:

Hi i just made this account because i have some important info I didn't see in the thread here, I'm having this issue seemingly EVERYWHERE i look, i play a pure vanilla game as the host of a friends only server that has had only 2 people play the game,  My issues have been seen in effectively every POI in a normal town/city spawn, there are no larger multistory buildings except for one and some destroyed building that was fairly small and had a single roofless room with a gun-safe in it.
These areas i know the descriptions of, that had this issue infesting them, are:
A gass'n'pass gas station, a diner with a large sign on the top of it and two outdoor eating areas, the shotgun messiah Factory, a regular house two feet away from a trader, a high school, a Crack a book building, to be specific the one i saw had a small hold out with a couple of crates on the roof, Notably I've been running into a lot of extra phantoms, not just the marble block seen in doorways and other areas, or the checkerboard block in the trash, there are also:
Trapdoors that are melded with a wooden plate, the entire Shotgun messiah is encompassed in a one way black glitched zone, meaning only the outside of the blocks making up the poi, the trash and shopping carts are also glitched with this pitch black box. There are tons of examples of this showing up in my world, and its solely vanilla RWG, to be clear they can happen in seemingly any area with multiple POIS but nothing seems to be safe from the glitch in my instance.  I will get screenshots soon. also I'm not running NVIDIA in the slightest, i swapped out for a decently powerful Radeon Graphics Card. Which can run ultra without issue seemingly,  Save of course, this error, which happened on Default graphics settings as well.

Logs?

Hardware information?

Any useful information?

 

Not to offend, but this doesn't add any really useful information.  We have way too many posts like this already. We need hard data.

[I cant join a friend, it gets stuck on player profile]

Your log shows issues connecting, but no error. Your profile on the host is likely broken. They will need to remove your player file.

[3 questions / 3 вопроса]

This is an English forum, and as such posts are required to be in English. I have translated your posts using Deepl

 

Which answers #1

 

#2 General Support forum has a Pinned topic on how to report an issue. 

 

#3 You don't get experience for damage you do not cause directly. Passive traps aren't going to be experience farms.

 

#4 They would need to be added as a friend. Then they can update your claimed areas. 

[Game crashed]

The Support FAQ thread also has instructions for how to recover a corrupted save. 

[Modify BedrollDeadZoneSize for Singleplayer]

Also be aware that neither the bedroll, nor the LandClaim Block, suppress all spawns.  In the case of the LCB, it will only suppress POI sleeper spawns. In the case of the bedroll, it only suppresses POI sleeper, and random biome spawns. 

Neither is going to completely stop zeds from spawning.

 

The console command should work for that game session, but it's going to be difficult to have it persistent. The setting is stored in a flat database file in your save folder.

[Can (non POI) animals spawn inside the bedroll protection area?]

According to @faatal from earlier in the a18 or a19 developer diary, bedroll only blocks POI and biome spawns, and LCB only blocks POI spawns.

Also I like Vedui, but some of his videos are a bit misleading and tend more towards theatrics. (Which honestly isn't any different from 95% of the other video game streamers.)

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

3 hours ago, Boidster said:

 

Maybe Speccy is mis-reporting the BIOS version?

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_bios

 

I checked it on mine thinking this might be the case, and it's reporting it just fine. I also have an Asus, though it's a ROG Strix X570-E.

[Is it possible to run game with only 1 gig of video ram]

49 minutes ago, unholyjoe said:

lean towards a gtx 1060 or better..

Some clarification on this. You want the 6GB variant of the 1060. The 3GB variant is trash that should never have been released.

[Is it possible to run game with only 1 gig of video ram]

Possible, yes. Enjoyable, not as much. You're going to struggle to get 30FPS. Especially if the rest of your hardware is as old as that GPU.

 

The minimum required hardware states 2GB vram.  If you go back to some older versions before a16, you can have a little bit better experience.

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

1 hour ago, tenchikun said:

Everything on the Mobo works fine, therefore I shouldn't need to update the bios. 

Just to note...  20 years ago, this was the case. In current times, not so much. Critical security and performance issues are put into BIOS patches, and they are updated now almost as commonly as regular drivers as a result. 

Here's a list of some of the changes that have occurred since the build you're using.

• Improved system performance and stability
• Improved DRAM compatibility
• Update AMD AM4 AGESA
• Support Smart Access Memory for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
• Fix the L3 cache performance in AIDA64
• Fix USB connectivity issue

So basically by not updating, you are missing several versions of patches to code on the motherboard that affect performance, stability, and efficiency.

 

And it's not like it's even a risky measure anymore with being able to update it in Windows via software provided from the manufacturer, and even via using a built-in tool in the BIOS that will go as far as locating the latest build, downloading it, and installing it for you. Not to mention having the BIOS Flashback feature that will allow you to quite easily recover if anything does manage to go pear shaped.

[EAC on steamos]

Okay, a couple of things.

 

1. EAC is not blocked on Linux. The only issues in that regard I could think of is if you're using Wine. Since 7 Days has a native Linux client, that shouldn't be an issue.

 

2. If you have EAC turned off, you will be unable to join any server that has it enabled.

 

 

More information on exactly what you've got going on there would be useful in troubleshooting.

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

26 minutes ago, BFT2020 said:

🤔 says getting breakfast and some coffee, but lives close by as I am cleaning up dishes from dinner......proof that ST lives in a different dimension

I work nights, so I'm basically on Australia hours.

 

25 minutes ago, tenchikun said:

Looking forward to that. I'm curious what isn't configured properly

Your RAM timing should be 15-15-15-35 for your 2400MHz RAM. However because it was never actually set in BIOS, it's running on Motherboard manufacturer default "safe" timings. As a result, it is sitting at 2166MHz and pulling down the performance of your CPU. 

This misrepresentation is also known to cause issues that will appear very similar to RAM sticks going bad.

 

Also note that since you aren't using a 3rd party AV solution, Defender is enabled. You must exclude the client from that. It's almost worse than Norton for killing games. Almost.

 

Your system BIOS is obsolete. It's like it's the default version from the original board printing.  Get the latest here, or use Armoury Crate to update. You have version 1004, and should be on 2006. While you're at it, ensure that you have the latest drivers in Armoury Crate as well. The last Windows update replaced core chipset and LAN/Wifi drivers with extremely obsolete versions.

 

Your GPU driver is outdated as well. Get the latest version from here. Choose to go without GeForce Experience, and choose Custom Install so you can tick the box to perform a clean installation.

 

Other than that, I don't see anything that really stands out.  Your most crippling problems are the BIOS that expired two years ago, and the incorrect RAM configuration.

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

Your RAM is not configured properly. That alone is going to cripple your system's performance.

 

I'll look into more of the report once I've had breakfast and some coffee.

[Game crashing]

Looks like a GPU driver failure. Make certain you have installed the most recent driver from the manufacturer. (AMD in your case) Especially if Windows had a big update recently. (which it did)

 

Also, don't forget to exclude the client from security software. 

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

A Speccy report taken at the time of the issue may help out as well.  Instructions on how to link a published report are in the Pinned topic on how to report an issue.

[A19e Nitrogen - UNSTABLE]

2 minutes ago, Epicon said:

I keep getting "Windows protected your PC...Micorsoft defender smartscreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting.  Running this app might put you PC at risk."  I clicked on more info and clicked run anyway but nothing comes up so that I can generated a map.  What can I do?

Follow the information in the Pinned Support FAQ thread on excluding the mod, and the game client, from security software.

[Possible Bug - Phantom Blocks - I Believe It's a Long-Known Problem]

2 hours ago, Chivalric said:

This has been an issue since 16.4, possibly earlier. I played A16.4 for about 4.5k hours and would get this bug from time to time, in SP with vanilla files. Happened with mods and in MP as well.

It's been an issue since Distant POI was introduced in a16.0.

 

It's also been really hard to get people having the issue to submit proper bug reports containing useful information to try to replicate it.  I've only been able to get the issue to occur by either using obsolete hardware (and even then I had to over-stress it), or by using mods or other things that would invalidate most of the testing.

[Unable to join any server or start a new game]

I responded to this on Steam already.

 

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Sounds like security software is preventing the game from writing to the save folder. Usually because you failed to exclude it from the software. Instructions are in the Pinned Troubleshooting thread. (The specific feature doing this is likely the randsomware protection, but the client should be fully excluded from all security services.)

 

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

51 minutes ago, tenchikun said:

i shut that windows defender and firewall garbage off

 

You can't fully shut it off. Exclude the client.

 

[Having trouble updating to 19.4 (server files)]

Ok, you didn't actually state the command.  Here is what is should look like. Assuming the server folder is D:\7Days Server

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir "D:\7Days Server" +app_update 294420 -validate +quit

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

1 hour ago, tenchikun said:

Ok, fresh new install of windows, updated fully, all drivers downloaded and updated. All I got on here right now is steam, discord, battle.net, star trek online, outriders, and 7d2d.  jumped into game, started mining and crashed to desktop, no error, no popup, nothing. Here is a pastebin for that. https://pastebin.com/gkKX2bT4

When you took all of these steps, did you also exclude the client from Windows Defender?

[Having trouble updating to 19.4 (server files)]

1. What is the command you are using with SteamCMD?

2. Why did you rename the server executable?

3. Pro-Tip, don't use the default config or batch for your server. Make new copies with custom names. Then updates don't wipe data.

[LiteNetLib: SendData requested for unknown client.]

1 hour ago, Sarakatunga said:

In the previous wip I had a 6k map and a maximum of 20 more players with the mods that are being used right now and the server gave around 20 fps. I think this problem happened twice in 3 months that the server was up !. it was a success except for that problem haha.

Edit: I'm going to try changing the network card to discard things. I keep testing.

Yeah 20 FPS for an active server is low. Ideally that should be 35-40. (Higher than 40 is just wasting CPU for no reason, and below 30 indicates a bottleneck issue.)

[7days crashing quite often. Please help.]

1 minute ago, tenchikun said:

And what would be the cause for this?

Mostly the things I listed already. Security software, RAM issue, HDD issue, permissions issue. Stuff like that.  Could just be some other software getting in the way too. Like how Citrix Workstation will randomly kill the client because of how it handles GPU data. Or how nearly every experimental has an issue with the overlay from MSI Afterburner.

 

These things are harder to track down, but usually can be discovered eventually.

[LiteNetLib: SendData requested for unknown client.]

2 minutes ago, Sarakatunga said:

If it didn't let me create it because it was overweight kb !!. I thought it didn't work: S

 

Pretty sure I provided an alternative in that case. justpaste.it will host larger files. It's all in the Pinned thread.

 

First issue. You have so many mods that could be conflicting, I'm not even going to try sorting them out. One set in particular looks to be an overhaul mod, and it is typically not safe to merge those with other mods that make core changes.

 

Second issue. That CPU really can't manage that many mods with that number of players. Even with SSD's in RAID it's not going to keep up. The hardware platform simply can't support the amount of data that needs to be processed.

 

Third issue. Double-stacking server managers will typically cause problems. Not only with overlapping commands, but also with duplicating processes. And again, this is going to put even more strain on the already struggling CPU.

 

Fourth issue. Towards the end of the log you have a critical network failure. Data is not being sent to the client, or cannot get out of the client. Any shutdown command not being sent directly via the client is not going to be heard. Causes for the end failure that leads to the issue are numerous. More data would be required.