Disappearing Turrets A20 (b238)

[overgoat]

I've had a repeated problem where my turrets disappear and seem to be lost forever.  I'm familiar with the old bug where they 'drop' and you can find them by digging down or logging in and out and this is different.  I've seen this on two separate maps/installs and has impacted multiple players on our server.  So far we've lost about a half dozen robotic turrets and 3 robotic sledges over the last 20 game days.  This has been super frustrating after gathering components to craft the turrets and filling them full of mobs only to find them gone.

[Endo]

Related but maybe different issue for me.  My turrets are mid horde night falling through player made structures into the soil.  Can dig down to retrieve them but highly annoying and largely makes them somewhat useless to have.  They will fire initially but then fall through what seems like arbitrarily.

Need to do a bit more testing to see if it is all turrets, specific block types etc but really not sure why this is occurring nor that familiar with it from previous alphas.

[Star69]

This is a known bug and there is hopefully a  fix coming for this when A20.1 gets released.

[Endo]

Updated to 20.1 and tried it out.  Turrets lasted longer above ground but eventually by the end of a horde night they had still fallen through the ground.  Interestingly enough they do seem to end up falling through my player made blocks and residing where the soil still remains.  For me that was essentially in the ground inside of a steel block.

[SylenThunder]

What if you clean slate and try it on a fresh save?

[Endo]

Sure, will try this again this evening (I'm in PST) in a freshly generated world/save.  My thoughts were to build a similar base and spawn in some zombies to see when exactly the turrets fall through or if they do in a fresh world.  May try a few different base configurations as well depending on results.

[Star69]

My understanding is the fix applied in A20.1 improves the issue but it is still occurring,  just not as frequently. Fatal said he will continue work on it.

[Endo]

Are there instigating factors that make it occur more frequently so as to try and manually mitigate them?

Edited January 20, 2022 by Endo (see edit history)

[Star69]

I don’t know the lingo or what it exactly means but has something to do with ray tracing and colliders and some other stuff. Fatal is the programmer assigned to fix this. You can click on his profile and read his recent posts explaining the error and what he has been doing to try and fix it. If you understand any programming talk I’m sure you’ll understand what he’s saying but it’s all gobblygook to me. Or go to News and Announcements->Developer A20 thread to read the discussions. He posts quite a bit about his work on the game. It’s fascinating, the parts that I understand anyway.

Edited January 21, 2022 by Star69 (see edit history)

[SylenThunder]

I find that if you put them on the center of a block, and not towards the edge, they are much less likely to fall through. Placing them on terrain with openings like a cave somewhere below has almost always been a guaranteed drop for me.

[Endo]

Thanks that's useful will take a read.  I did try out a fresh A20.1 save in the same generated world and created a similar base.  Bumped up the day and ran a day 504 horde night with two robotic turrets doing basically all the work, had no issues.  Tried also spawning cops thinking it might be related to splash damage but again no dice to force them to fall.  So might just be positioning.

 

I think in the interim because A20.1 is better but not fully fixed may just have a few turrets in reserve in case some fall through as I can find them.