Loot

[Strifetoe007]

Ok so I have been trying to figure out how to edit this loot.xml to where higher tier items don’t drop until. A certain game stage . I was a level 7 and in a safe and a herobox I got a rank 3 sniper , rank 1 auger, rank 2 steel spear and a rank 3 tac rifle. That seems a bit overpowered for new players on my server , there a way to where I can say player gs 1,50 prob of getting 3,4,5,6 is zero ?

 

this is the only file I can’t seem to understand or maybe a mod that will make it easier for me?

 

thanks

[meganoth]

The result you got is impossible in vanilla A19. Also I never heard of a herobox. Have you already installed a mod that changes loot probabilities?

 

 

 

[Strifetoe007]

Cntherolootbox I think it is are the rectangle chests , it is possible because it happened.

[meganoth]

There is cntLootChestHero and cntLootCrateHero, do you mean one of those?

 

Alpha19 was critizised by some players that it didn't allow any exceptional find like a steel spear in the first days. So I have no explanation for this. If you are playing A18 or A17 instead, then yes, quite possible.

 

 

[Strifetoe007]

A19 and yes . 

[Boidster]

I agree with meganoth that what you describe - for a single player, alone not in a party, at level 7 and presumably not much past day 10 - should be impossible. I'll be back momentarily with The Math. I gots a database which calculates odds for Item X at Level Y and such as.

 

While I get the numbers, can you check your current Gamestage?

 

Hey, I'm back. Alright so picking just one of your loot items - the Sniper Rifle - it sure seems pretty impossible in a vanilla game for a solo Level 7 player to find one of any quality, never mind a quality 3 rifle. Here's the nauseating detail.

 

1) The Sniper Rifle is only available from lootgroups "groupWeaponsRangedScaled" and "groupWeaponsRangedScaledTPlus". In both cases, the probability distribution "ProbT3" is used.

 

2) The first bit of ProbT3 looks like this, which means between level 0 and 88, the chances of finding an item which uses this distribution are zero. Naganna happen.

 

<lootprobtemplate name="ProbT3">
  <loot level="0,88" prob="0"/>
  <loot level="89,91" prob="0.04"/>
  <loot level="92,93" prob="0.05"/>
  <loot level="94,96" prob="0.05"/>
  <loot level="97,98" prob="0.06"/>
  <loot level="99,100" prob="0.06"/>

 

3) At Level 7, your Gamestage is capped at approximately 16. Therefore, without some other extenuating circumstance not described in the OP, it's impossible for a Sniper Rifle or any other Tier 3 weapon to be found. In any loot container. Even Tier 2 weapons are unobtainable at that low GS.

 

Edit to add: here are the ranged weapons you would expect to find at GS16 in a chest which pulls from "groupWeaponsRangedScaled":

 

Weapon	Probability
Primitive Bow	0.64%
Wooden Bow	0.007%
Iron Crossbow	0.007%
Blunderbuss	0.64%
Double-Barrel Shotgun	0.014%
Hunting Rifle	0.014%
Pistol	0.014%
AK-47	0.014%

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Boidster (see edit history)