[Should zombie appearances be more varied?]

Ever since the first alpha I've never really liked the MMORPG style zombie system in 7DTD, where the zombies are all clones of 8 or 9 distinct and recognizable individuals. They even used to have names like "Arlene" until a18 when it was no longer possible to loot them. I don't really like this in other games like Killing Floor either, although at least in that game there's an explanation for it - the Zeds are all literal clones being pumped out of hidden underground cloning vats.

 

I always preferred the zombies from other games such as Dead Rising or Left 4 Dead, who all look very similar, their clothing is dirty and neutrally colored, and it's much harder to distinguish them from each other as individuals. They all kind of blend together. It's weird and kind of paradoxical - the more similar the zombies look to each other, the less they seem like identical videogame clones. I'd prefer the 7DTD zombies if they were designed in a way where it was harder to tell them apart, and they were distinguished more by their roles in the game, like wearing hardhats or having the ability to climb.

 

Was just wondering how many other people shared this opinion and how many people like the clones or don't care.

[Has this game turned from a scavenging game to a dungeon crawler?]

On 4/1/2021 at 12:16 PM, Darklegend222 said:

I consider it to have moved away from a scavenging game. Scavenging is going through shelves and shelves of stuff "hoping" to find something, now its just "if i raid this, i KNOW i'll find nothing useful, but once that number goes higher, MAGICALLY more stuff appears".

 

Edit, I forgot to add the first bit. In A16, raiding POIs was a daunting experience because there was less stuff to loot, a lot of places had almost nothing, and the zombies were quite horrifying. Now its just running quests endlessly to level up and get more money to purchase an item because places will NOT get any loot other than stone items. Its a game of leveling and a game of questing. Not so much a horror/survival.

 

I agree 100%, and this is why they need to overhaul the zombies to make certain PoI's more difficult, so the loot system stops relying on RNG quite so much. Some RNG is good, but you've outlined the reason why it can't be the sole decider of what kind of loot a player recieves.

 

Dungeon crawling is great and that's fantastic if this is the direction they want the game to go in. Dungeon crawlers are fun as hell and dungeons as ruined supermarkets puts a great twist on it.

 

But with that, fundamental changes need to be made to the enemies. In dungeon crawling games, there's a clear progression between low level dungeons and high level dungeons. 7DTD should be no different, PoI's with fat loot need to have a huge risk factor involved, have a big reward, and actually be daunting for fresh toons to traverse. Do you really want to risk your life for those power tools?

 

So, PoI's should have different types of zombies to reflect their risk and reward. Maybe the in-game lore could visually explain it by making the "outside zombies" dessicated skinny weak skeletal husks, while different types of "inside zombies" and sleepers could come with different clothing and danger levels. There doesn't have to be any logic to explain why a gun factory zombie bites harder than a suburban house zombie. They just do. Or explain it visually - just make them look more frightening and scary.

[so I was digging up this guy's driveway]

On 4/12/2021 at 9:54 PM, Liesel Weppen said:

Am i the only one that is annoyed by those pointless small talk, roleplaying or whatever all these posts are supposed to be, posts posted in new threads over and over with completely nonsense titles by always the same user?

 

lol you must be new to the internet if that's all it takes to annoy you

 

[Idea/Suggestion for Zombie Diversity using existing assets ???]

I would like it if they spawned with different colored clothing and different face skins. The exact same 8 zombies always felt way too MMO style for me, and giving them names always felt like the wrong direction to take. Is this world full of mutant clones of the same 8-10 people or something?

 

I much prefer Left 4 Dead's zombies, where they're all pretty similar but wear different clothes and are very difficult to distinguish as individuals.

 

https://www.gamerevolution.com/assets/uploads/2020/12/Back-4-Blood-like-Left-4-Dead-Zombies.jpg

[Can someone tell me how to modify weapon damage?]

I'm using a mod off Nexus that increases headshot damage and reduces body damage, but it only applies to vanilla weapons, and I've got a lot of new weapon mods such as STALKER and Wasteland Weapons. Can someone point me to the specific files I have to change in order to apply the same values to all of my modded weapons too?

 

My goal is to have a Romero-style world where there are hundreds of zombies that are all resistant to body damage but die in one or two hits to the head.

[my slight Problem with 7DTD]

I mod the game to spawn 8x-16x the amount of zombies. There's also a mod where you can make them die in 1 hit to the head but are immune to body damage. You can even cut off all their limbs and they'll stay alive trying to bite you. All the simplifications seem balanced after that, since you've got 100 zombies in every chunk and they're all trying to kill you, you don't have much time to worry about stat numbers.

[Magolis Compo Pack by The Compopack]

Thanks, that seems pretty straightforward, opening up the rwgmixer.xml there's a list of vanilla prefabs with tags, I guess I just add the filenames of the custom prefabs and then tag them all like the others. Such as, zmexico27 prefab is tagged as <prefab name="zmexico27"/>

 

--edit--

 

Seems to be working fine

[Magolis Compo Pack by The Compopack]

Thanks for the info!

 

If I wanted to use compopack 47 (and a few other individual prefabs from nexus) for the game's built in map generator, is there anything special I have to do, other than copying all the prefab files into my "7 days to die/data/prefab" folder?

 

I've generated a few maps and they don't seem to be including the names of any custom prefabs in the "generatedworlds/mapname/prefabs.xml" folder. Am I just reading the prefabs.xml file wrong or am I missing a file somewhere else that tells the game to include the custom prefabs?

[Magolis Compo Pack by The Compopack]

Hello, I would like to use the prefabs and the nitrogen prefablist from compopack 47 for a map, but only the ones made after A19 came out, with the new blocks. Is there a way of seperating the a17 and a18 prefabs from the a19 ones?

[Prefab _ Club Hotel]

Hello, what is the nitrogen custom list line for this prefab? As in, Club_hotel,none,x,x,x,x,x,downtown;unique

 

Also, does anyone know where the dimensions can be found so I can do this myself in future? They don't seem to be in the xml