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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    1 hour ago, Diragor said:

    Can we expect Dev Diary in September/October? You always start with that around 3 Month before Alpha release and A21 will probably come around December/January. So I wanna ask is there any plan to start with it or not yet?

    Do you mean Dev Streams? This is the Dev Diary 

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    3 minutes ago, Roland said:


    Yes!! The game has its full complement of vehicles. The possibility of a raft is pretty good since they already have the model for it and now the new water simulation is in. The possibility of a helicopter is more remote. 
     

    But, truthfully, the developers are willing and indeed planning to ship this game with the vehicles we have right now.
     

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    1 hour ago, Laz Man said:

    You have several options at this point.  

     

    1) Find something fun in the game to enjoy.

    2) Explore modding options to change the game to how you would like it.3) Search elsewhere for a new activity/game to enjoy.

    @Mad_Dane
    4) Always remember you are NOT forced to update to the latest alpha. Go on steam-7 Days to Die-Properties-Betas and choose whatever version you liked the most and have fun! 

    Plus: since you're not a fan of looting and questing, you won't miss the new bandits!

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    6 hours ago, Jost Amman said:

    When they bring up new stuff, I'm open-minded (this "ancient" word that has been apparently lost in the dust of ages).

     


    This is really hard to find, hopefully the majority of the people have this same approach towards new alphas.

    Let's let TFP do their game, we can test it when it releases (alpha21), then make conclusions. 

     

    If you like it: Play it alone, with friends and family, PvP, and be happy.
    If you don't: Opt-in for an older alpha or just don't play it anymore until gold, then you can play it again and see how it feels.

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    34 minutes ago, KhaineGB said:

     

    Yep, it does. Went and checked.

     

     

    No it's not. It's the public perception of the forum. If you suggest that folks come here, and give their input in a polite and well structured manner, the response is typically "There's no point because it's a TFP fanboy echo chamber."

    I'm not kidding. Therefore the phrase is accurate, because that's seriously what a lot of players outside of the forum believe. If you don't like that, then efforts need to be made to change it.

     

    It's that simple.

     


    Not strictly true. I know a lot of well mannered people, who could offer constrcutive, non-toxic criticism, but won't because they don't want to be attacked by other forum users due to the aforementioned issue above.

    I am seriously not kidding. I've had people in my discord and twitter tell me that. I've also had folks tell me that on youtube and on facebook.

    And I would re-read what I said, Roland. I did not assume they ONLY read the forums. I said they can't pay attention to all of the avenues I mentioned, which is true. It's a lot of time. Due to the fact the team MOSTLY respond here (I have seen Fataal and Kin in the 7 Days to Die - PC FB group), it is a fair and reasonable assumption. The only time I see TFP directly interact with fans is here, occasionally facebook and twitch (especially during the streamer event... i'm not counting Prime cos he's a nerd that always streams his own stuff ;) )

    Therefore my "assumption" is correct. They cannot possibly read every single piece of feedback on every single social media outlet that the players use, because there just isn't enough time in the day to do that AND work on the game AND have a life. That's straight fact.


    The problem is the "reason" is never discussed.

    A lot of people would be less irritable when a change comes if it was. Personally I would LOVE to know the reasons from a straight up design perspective on WHY something was changed, but that's because I want to learn.

    I think Madmole said it was to stimulate more exploring and looting, maybe I invented it...

     

    One reason I can think of is: the intelligence tree is broken on CO-OP games. If I only perk up intelligence i break the whole progression of my team, I can skip vehicles, make insane tech and horde bases.

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    1 hour ago, KhaineGB said:


    Want my opinion then? ;)

    He's unfortunately right. The forum is mostly full of people who blindly support TFP. This is their primary method of communcation, so that's what they see. Any criticism that is actually well constructed is often shouted down by most folks on the forum, so it can be ignored (it's not ALWAYS ignored, I want to make that clear, but it often is, because TFP will just do whatever they want and folks here just stand around and clap).

    Other social media, like twitter, discord, facebook, reddit, twitch, youtube... there's often a lot of criticism. I know they obviously cannot monitor all of these, but if you actually tell people to go to the forums and make their grievances in a polite and constructive manner, you know what the typical response is?

    "There's no point. They won't listen and the forum is full of TFP <insert descriptive noun for supporters here which may or may not be polite>".

    And I also know they can't listen to everyone. If they did, the game would never be done. The problem is, changes like this are perceived as uncessary. TFP have a habit of doing MAJOR changes (and this is) when only a slight tweak is needed. Which means folks get annoyed, and it drags out the development process.

    Personally, I'm still on the side of "This is a completely unecessary change" but with a side of "I'm going to see how it plays."

     


    Story needs to be done before gold as I believe it's a KS promise. I need to double check that.

    Idk man...
    I feel like everyone has concerns and hopes for the game, but at the end of the day, it's their game not ours, we're just here for the ride.
    Plus: every change they made is for a reason, they have talented game designers so... maybe you'll say i'm a sheep, but i trust them.

    Also, if they make a change that I don't want/like I can just opt-in for an older Alpha and have fun anyways, we have like 10 games in 1 because we can dance around all alpha versions.

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    13 minutes ago, ArmoredStone said:

    Alright now you're just putting words in my mouth. I never said that my opinions on game features are "what the people want". All I want is to have the opinions of the community be involved more than they currently are. These are massive game changers, but none of these changes were based on what the community collectively wants.

     

    And that's a fun analogy, but if I paid for a burger that tasted great, but gave me food poisoning the next day, you bet I'm going back in to complain.

    Also, did you ever stop to consider that those people leave right away because it's apparent that the forum is constructed with a hive-mind that TFP can do no wrong and don't need to consider the opinions of others? I even have a super-moderator implying I don't have friends when I complain about balancing for multiplayer servers. I don't doubt for a second that "trouble-makers" aren't just removed from the forums, if they aren't already bullied out by white knights defending the all-powerful TFP. Take a minute to consider that.

    I mean you have 14 posts and claim TFP never consider others opinions (just because they didn't considered YOUR opinion) and you also said 

     

    28 minutes ago, ArmoredStone said:

    I paid for the game to take part in the development of it, not to have my opinion cast to the side.

    That's not how it works at all brother, if you want to take part in the development of the game you have to become a Dev and apply for a job at TFP.

     

    I'm not trying to bully you at all, i'm sorry if it felt like it. I'm just trying to give you a little advice on how things works.

    No hard feelings I hope!

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    2 minutes ago, ArmoredStone said:

    If you enjoy paying for your opinion to be ignored, there are better ways to do it.

    First of all, my opinions were accordingly received since my n°1 post.
    Second: if you pay for a burger and you eat it very slow, you can't go one day later and ask the chef to change it, you already paid for the game and played it.
    Third: I've seen a lot of egocentric forum members come and go, who think their opinion is the absolute truth and claim to speak "what the people want", they usually don't last very long.

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    17 minutes ago, ArmoredStone said:

    Apparently I'm an idiot for thinking that paying developers for a game should imply an obligation on the developers to build the game based off of feedback from the buyers. If you guys truly think that is wrong, then why was there a massive uproar about No Man's Sky? And why did the developers take time that they didn't need to to develop the game to the communities' liking? Those developers made the game they made. They had no contractual obligation to fix anything. That's an example of developers that actually care about their community, and deliver on a product.

    Also, the argument about DLC not existing is nullified by the fact that these devs still have the game in ALPHA, with a ton of broken promises of content they told us would be coming. If they lied about adding content, and started selling other content, that could arguably be grounds for legal action.

    But hey, if you guys like paying for a game with developers that don't care about your opinion, more power to ya :D

    Can't wait for the white knights to respond to this xD

    You don't get how the world works brother...

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    Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

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    1 minute ago, Code6 said:

    I am nearly positive that I posted a comment about the behavior of writeable storage boxes yesterday and now I cannot find it.  Did it get moderated/deleted or am I going crazy?  (I just want to understand before I repost it.)

    I think it's because this is not a bug report thread, maybe you could try reposting it on one.

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    10 minutes ago, Jost Amman said:

    Can anyone from the dev team post a picture of the new workstation on Twitter please?

    With just a picture, we can go on talking for a couple of weeks on Steam...  :confused2::blah:

    True, let us speculate guys 

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    Posted · Edited by Trankitas (see edit history)

    5 minutes ago, Roland said:

    What's interesting is that I find myself choosing to explore POIs without a quest because the quest takes me to a random POIs that isn't necessarily going to have the types of magazines I want to find. You do get a random bundle of magazines as a quest reward if you choose that but I feel compelled to go into POIs now if I think they will have more of what I am specifically looking for. It's tough to choose sometimes.... "Do I go loot that Police Station where there is sure to be mags that I want or do a quest?" The new quest type also makes it a tough decision the other way. Man, A21 is full of new tough decisions....haha

    Come on maaaaan...

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    1 minute ago, Roland said:

     

    Chemistry station, crucible, and the new workstation are all unlocked through the Workstations skill tree.

     

    I'm not sure about the exact unlock levels for the nailgun and claw hammer but remember that it is simply for crafting your own. I had to start a fresh game due to changes in a recent build and I had two claw hammer that I had found within the first few days. So just because you may not be able to craft a nailgun yourself until later, it doesn't necessarily mean you won't have access to a nailgun at all.

    Well? You're gonna tell us what it is? Or you wanna make us suffer?

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    Posted · Edited by Trankitas (see edit history)

    Question for TFP:

    Does movement ingame will ever be upgraded/reworked? It feels a little bit clunky, the game now has pretty high quality standards but movement always felt like Alpha 4 (when i started playing the game)

     

    Thoughts? 

    Edit: I'm talking about player movement, vehicle movement is pretty neat now.

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    Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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    Yesterday I was talking with friends about how broken for the game INT skill tree is (for CO-OP mostly) because of the tech skills.
    Today I see this change and I like it.

     

    Are there any estimates for A21 release? I'm dying to play it :(

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