28 minutes ago, Roland said:Having a designated quest specialist is the solution (without modding of course). You can still quest together and clear POIs as a group for that co-op feeling. Sure, it means that your intellect guy will have to craft bikes for everyone else but that will be fun for that person to do. My group were also disappointed with the change and went right to modding but we have been talking about it almost nonstop since the change and we've decided on our next restart we will play it as designed and choose someone to be the designated specialist. Now that our initial reaction has been alleviated by our mod and we've had time to think about it we are warming up to the idea.
However, it does work against what TFP is trying to accomplish in keeping the quest progression from going too quickly because if everyone in a group is focused on pushing one person's rep up through the tiers they will do that far faster than a single player would be able to do it. So the solution actually works crosswise to what TFP was hoping to accomplish.
Another possible design solution would be to allow all participants to get points like it was but limit the number of quests that can be done and turned in per day. I've seen that limitation in almost every other RPG that offers jobs. Only this game allows for continual questing all day long with no end to the jobs. The benefit to this method of stretching out the quest progression is that it would force players to broaden the variety of their activities each day. If they finish their available jobs by noon then instead of just continuing to quest the rest of the day they might work on their base, track down mats for a crafting task they are tracking, clear some POIs without a quest, farm, mine, harvest, etc. Perhaps the limit should be on a rl timer of 60 minutes. That way people with 120 minute days wouldn't be penalized. They would have some morning jobs and some late afternoon jobs.
Yeah, that was basically my thought as well. I suggested limiting it to 5x your current tier in points per day, which works out to 5 quests at your tier level per day, which is the max you can do solo without reloading to get new quests. That number could of course be adjusted. It could also be 5 total quests regardless of tier (or another number) but that means if you are doing lower level quests, you can't do as many for points per day. That may or may not be a bad thing, though. The main downside is that you can't run a new person through quests quickly by having them stand outside a tier 5/6 while you complete the quests. They'd be limited to no more than 1 tier every two days like anyone else. So that wouldn't be great for established games and new players.
As far as getting able to do more quests on 2 hour days, that might be nice. I play strictly 2 hour days, so it would benefit me. But I also don't think it is necessary. I've never felt like I lost anything by only being able to do 5 quests per day on 2 hour days. I often can't complete that many anyhow, especially at higher tiers. Though the extra 2 hours in game will make that easier.