Kalen Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Can anyone name a game on the market that offers the same level of granular control that is being asked for here? Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress are 2 that come to mind. I guess technically Dwarf Fortress doesn't apply.... it's free so not really "on the market" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricp Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress are 2 that come to mind. I'll be honest, it's been years since I have played Minecraft (there is just no challenge to it) but what sort of options does it offer these days? Previously it was pretty limited. I was sort of looking for a similar game; DF isn't, MC is (sort of). DayZ, Miscreated, Rust, Conan Exiles, The Long Dark, The Forest, etc. Similar indie developed titles that you don't find pages and pages of configuration settings exposed for even the most non technical user to mess about with. The one caveat I'd add here is I am talking SP. I don't play MP and have never set up a 7DtD/MP server so have no experience with the available settings that offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalen Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'll be honest, it's been years since I have played Minecraft (there is just no challenge to it) but what sort of options does it offer these days? Previously it was pretty limited. I was sort of looking for a similar game; DF isn't, MC is (sort of). DayZ, Miscreated, Rust, Conan Exiles, The Long Dark, The Forest, etc. Similar indie developed titles that you don't find pages and pages of configuration settings exposed for even the most non technical user to mess about with. The one caveat I'd add here is I am talking SP. I don't play MP and have never set up a 7DtD/MP server so have no experience with the available settings that offers. If you use the advanced options you can get a pretty detailed in MC. Sea level, Caves (or not), Villages (or not), Lake rarity, lava frequency, ore density, what biomes exist, etc. There are dozens of settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerial Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I was sort of looking for a similar game; DF isn't, MC is (sort of). DayZ, Miscreated, Rust, Conan Exiles, The Long Dark, The Forest, etc. Similar indie developed titles that you don't find pages and pages of configuration settings exposed for even the most non technical user to mess about with. The Long Dark now has about 2 pages of difficulty sliders that adjust everything from wolf aggressiveness to frequency of weather changes to the ability to sprain your ankle. It's a pretty good example, IMO, of how to offer choices in (nearly*) everything an ordinary player might want to adjust. * I'm sure there are players out there who want options that aren't included in the list, but I doubt there are very many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin_the_Mad Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 So one game that is very much like this one and has a stupid amount of options is project zomboid. There are like 6 pages of small-print setting options that allow you to change everything about the zombies, everything about the world, and then save those settings. So if you created a romero walk-only scenario where all zombies are focused around urban areas and respawn at a certain rate and are sensitive to sound but practically blind will follow you x amount of distance you can save that and name it "Romero lore scenario" and then next time you play you can just select that tab and it will automatically fill in everything. You can export settings as well so in a forum like this I could find your settings and use them. As for it costing time and money, I would say that this is actually one of the easiest things to code because it's just giving an in-game way of altering XML. Say you check the box to disable digging zombies that action simply removes the "can dig" tag from all entities that have it. Of course only things that could easily be modified would be changeable. You couldn't change complex game mechanics but anything that has a variable or a tag in XML can basically be changed on the fly. Like the percentages of loot tables, zombie health, stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungryZombie Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 You were suggesting difficulty, which is strictly taboo around here since everyone knows this is a building mining game and NOT a survival zombie game. Suggestions OTHER than decreasing difficulty, removing challenges and simplifying gameplay will get you mocked and laughed at by "elite" horde base designers. "Big name" streamers said so. The rumor I heard was the original project name for 7dtd was "Hello Kitty Adventure Zombie Island" But they could not secure the Hello Kitty license. So everyone isn't too far off. - I'm Kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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