crazywildfire Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 $60? When was this game ever $60? I really don't believe this game went above $40. I don't recall it being $40 but someone claimed they spent $40 on it and maybe I guess. I believe I payed $35 within the first few months it came out. Bought a few copies for some friends and myself. But I don't recall it ever once being $60. This is US dollars I'm talking about just incase. TFP did hire some people and have pushed the game along very well. I guess that isn't good enough and they need to hire more and that will not be good enough and they should hire more. I mean this isn't a big company they can't just hire and hire and hire or they will not make any money. So I think they are fine unless they wanna hire one more and that would be Clare Not sure why people are arguing.... ok maybe not arguing I guess disagreeing about the way they communicate. TFP communicates in multiple places not just one so not sure what the problem is. So they probably spend some extra time in the forums then other places, so what this is their website why wouldn't they be here. The way I see things is you can't please everyone. Even a very small group of people you not going to please them all. Sure it can be done but still very hard and that depends on what it is. So as the group gets bigger and bigger then it becomes impossible to please everyone without a doubt. Some people don't see that and it is all about "give me, give me, give me". Anyway I guess disagree with that I don't care. As far as I'm concerned when it comes to TFP they have not let me down yet but that is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanPatriot Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 $60? When was this game ever $60? I really don't believe this game went above $40. I don't recall it being $40 but someone claimed they spent $40 on it and maybe I guess. I believe I payed $35 within the first few months it came out. Bought a few copies for some friends and myself. But I don't recall it ever once being $60. This is US dollars I'm talking about just incase. TFP did hire some people and have pushed the game along very well. I guess that isn't good enough and they need to hire more and that will not be good enough and they should hire more. I mean this isn't a big company they can't just hire and hire and hire or they will not make any money. So I think they are fine unless they wanna hire one more and that would be Clare Not sure why people are arguing.... ok maybe not arguing I guess disagreeing about the way they communicate. TFP communicates in multiple places not just one so not sure what the problem is. So they probably spend some extra time in the forums then other places, so what this is their website why wouldn't they be here. The way I see things is you can't please everyone. Even a very small group of people you not going to please them all. Sure it can be done but still very hard and that depends on what it is. So as the group gets bigger and bigger then it becomes impossible to please everyone without a doubt. Some people don't see that and it is all about "give me, give me, give me". Anyway I guess disagree with that I don't care. As far as I'm concerned when it comes to TFP they have not let me down yet but that is my opinion. I meant that 7 DTD has never been as expensive as a full price game but many of us have never spent so much time with GTA for example like with 7 DTD. Nevertheless...the lower the price the less money they earn with it. Either they hire more employees now that they have to deal with all three platforms at once or all the players have to wait longer for updates in their platforms. Split ressources, thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1986 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't see the panick now but I did a few weeks ago! End of the day the pimps own the game... TTG were just simply publishing it and doing a terrible job at that lol but it's sad they lost there job. But at least now this works out better for us gamers if The fun pimps employ a good and not slack publisher then this could be a triumph for future support/updates it can only be a good thing and also legally all the time there games are appearing on ps4/xbox and in circulation they have to support this game until this cycle of gen consoles are completely done it's legally there duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS101104 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't see the panick now but I did a few weeks ago! End of the day the pimps own the game... TTG were just simply publishing it and doing a terrible job at that lol but it's sad they lost there job. But at least now this works out better for us gamers if The fun pimps employ a good and not slack publisher then this could be a triumph for future support/updates it can only be a good thing and also legally all the time there games are appearing on ps4/xbox and in circulation they have to support this game until this cycle of gen consoles are completely done it's legally there duty I'm not sure what you mean by "they have to support this game until this cycle of gen consoles are completely done it's legally there duty" since most Triple A titles don't have that sort of "legal" obligation. Or at least don't appear to. There are plenty of games that no longer receive updates for the games on console platforms. Unless they are releasing new content(GTA V), or actively supporting the game currently(Fortnite) they do not have to do so for the entirety of a game's life on consoles. So, like I said, I'm not sure what you mean by that, because no game company seems obligated to support or provide new content for a game for the duration of a platform's duration, especially games considered full releases. Games like Dragon Quest: Builders don't release updates anymore or content, and haven't since I bought it about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Well at least we are sure that there is still anticipation ahead, no matter what the next "info" released may be. We also know that some people can name games no longer receiving updates/new content. Some can name games that are still supporting new content. We can also rest assured that everyone is going to argue with anyone about the legality of things regarding the next possible update for 7 Days. I will be waiting to give you guys the next AllOurDestiny seed (your welcome for that map) after, and if, the next update comes. Keep looking for great seeds. Good luck everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irjvik Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 ...they have to support this game until this cycle of gen consoles are completely done it's legally there duty Hello. Please take a deep breath and relax ... Never read EULAs ??? The software is provided AS IS. Period. Some examples of non-supported games on consoles : - ALL Warhammer 40.000 games, They ALL have some trophies broken, and aren't patched anymore. - Dragon Fin Soup, devs ran in a mess like TellTales and it went awry, devs lost IP to console rights, and publisher stated it won't do anything. - There are plenty other ones, I will not list them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1986 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I agree with you totally not all games come under them pacific requirements I Should of stated that previously apologise. Games like god of war 3 will very very rarely need too many updates but Open world games mainly destroy/Re-build games like 7DTD ARK are on a whole different level and are very complex and need more support miles more that any other genre! there is no way sony/Microsoft will be that naive too not have some legal wrangle about updates and future support as of when when its needed. hopefully soon all 7DTD fans we will soon gasp a sigh of relief when we hopefully get our long awaited update fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just because it is a different type of game doesn't change anything. If they decide not to update anymore that is up to them. If it isn't made by Sony or Microsoft I highly doubt they care less. I'm sure they hope that everyone succeeds but if they don't they move right along it isn't costing them anything. The fact is that it isn't Sony or Microsoft game so they have no say so on what the company does with it. They only have say so on if the update passes through the console or not. Basically what Sony and Microsoft looking for with patches/updates are things that could possibly harm the console. Maybe a code that wasn't found that could crash the system or something. Things like that is what they are looking for so if something happens to the system and you have that warranty on it then they replace or do what they do. The game developers don't do all that. So besides that Sony and Microsoft don't care if it is a open world game or not. They are not legally liable to keep updating the game. Ark could stop updating anytime they wish. Will they? Most likely not the game is still making them money. I can bet that if the game didn't make money or made a little and stopped it wouldn't be where it is at now. Has nothing to do with they have to keep updating until the console is finished or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nootcaase Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Folks nobody is abandoning the console development. We are working to either finish it as planned or peacefully bring the rights back home and resume the porting of A16 which significant work has been invested. We want to keep it going A16, A17 and beyond. We are only being cautious about releasing statements until things are 100% settled. Cheers Richard I'm having a hard time with this statement. Are you working directly with Iron Galaxy? Because I can't see the Fun Pimps pausing the PC build too catch console up. That's going to put console on hold until PC is done, but then how many amps will the be? Will it go to beta first to? Are you going to start looking for a new publisher thst is willing to work with this project? Still TT be willing to part with the console rights without asking for a cut that's too big to consider? How can we trust the fun Pimps with a member of the dev team constantly tweeting their disgust with the console version only to delete the tweet after? I am sorry, but telling us you'll support the platforms you can, does not mean the console versions are 100% safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irjvik Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'm having a hard time with this statement. Hello. Please don't start the headache mode ! TFP will continue console version, that's now settled. As console players/users, how they will do this is none of our business. Let TFP managers bonk their heads into walls while trying to figure how. Just wait for new updates and expansions to come, as they will come. As a purely cynical point of view, I would add there will be the long-awaited for 100% sure. Why ? Because it was to be a paid expansion, not a free update. Most of the works is now finished, it would be stupid not to finish it and loose a money income. Console lovers or haters, nobody would spit on fresh money. The best we can as players is to support TFP with our words in the meantime, and buy the expansion in order to support them with our money. So we will prove TFP we console users are reliable and they can count/rely on us. We have a word in French for that : someone who helps you when you are in need is a true friend (sorry, I don't know the exact translation in English, so I put an approximate one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nootcaase Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Hello. Please don't start the headache mode ! TFP will continue console version, that's now settled. As console players/users, how they will do this is none of our business. Let TFP managers bonk their heads into walls while trying to figure how. Just wait for new updates and expansions to come, as they will come. As a purely cynical point of view, I would add there will be the long-awaited for 100% sure. Why ? Because it was to be a paid expansion, not a free update. Most of the works is now finished, it would be stupid not to finish it and loose a money income. Console lovers or haters, nobody would spit on fresh money. The best we can as players is to support TFP with our words in the meantime, and buy the expansion in order to support them with our money. So we will prove TFP we console users are reliable and they can count/rely on us. We have a word in French for that : (sorry, I don't know the exact translation in English, so I put an approximate one). They have already lost a lot of money on this, and making a paid update to fix this mess will end the game fully. I am not the only one that is unwilling to pay for this game to be fixed. That is a ludicrous idea and one that will be the nail in this game's coffin on console should it.come to pass. Whether or not most of the work is finished is irrelevant. If the work has not been paid for, then it's not going to be finished by the current developer, Iron Galaxy. Even then, Richard's last post suggests the console rights for 7Days is held by TT, which means they would need permission from TT before they can do ANY work on the console version. Saying the console version will continue without those rights in hand means absolutely nothing. The old phrase that best fits the situation is "counting your chickens before their hatched." Can it happen, oh sure. Maybe the remnants of Telltale will graciously return the rights no questions asked. That is possible. It's unlikely, but possible. The reality is that Telltale is in a position where they need as much money as possible to pay their remaining staff. On top of that, the Fun Pimps had NO plans for a console version until Telltale came to them with the idea. And, the Fun Pimps have shown their dislike for the console version time and again. Further more, we have no clue how far along the swap to the new engine actually was. The last thing we heard was that the UI was in place and that's it. We have had no clear update on the status of this update since that. To say, so much work had been done is reaching with how little we actually know about the update. My frustration is not with the state of the game or the prospect of the next update not being completed. As I said in previous posts, I did get my money's worth. My frustration is that instead of being up front about this situation and saying this is what must be done before work can continue on the console version. Instead, they first gave an extremely vague statement that initially promoting the PC version which has now been edited out of the post. And then, they provided an equally vague second post. Before you jump on this part, its vague because they say they are not abandoning it, but then say they have to be cautious in their statements while things settle. That is not clear in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-MauMau Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Seems pretty clear to me. Sounds to me, like they wish to continue to support the console version, but have a few legal issues to resolve with TTG before that can happen. Sounds to me like they are saying "Hey guys, we know this sucks for you. Well, it sucks for us too. But try to have a little patience please. Legal crap takes a little time to handle." There, that's my personal read into their 'vague' posts. While it seems pretty vague to some, I didn't have a problem reading into it, nor have I had any problems doing so since this thread started. We've all dealt with long waits and vague statements from TTG for a long time now. What's one more wait for TFP? So please, cool your jets. Go start a new random gen map, and relax. When they have some concrete information to give us, they will. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damselx1 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 As a purely cynical point of view, I would add there will be the long-awaited for 100% sure. Why ? Because it was to be a paid expansion, not a free update. All updates and patches so far have been free and I've seen nothing from the devs to say that any future update(s) will be paid for. I'd like to see the source of this bit of information - do you have the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clare Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It was going to be a reg update with an engine upgrade. Not paid for DLC. Only paid for DLC for 7DTD has been cosmetic skins. It wouldn't have made sense to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax777 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Hello. TFP will continue console version, that's now settled. As console players/users, how they will do this is none of our business. Let TFP managers bonk their heads into walls while trying to figure how. Just wait for new updates and expansions to come, as they will come. Link with the TFP quote, please. The last I read, TFP empathized with us how much this sucks for console players of 7DtD, and how their hands are legally tied because TT Games still owns the rights, but that is all. Many things are clear. 1) TT Games have already laid off more developers from the initial 25 person skeleton crew and so it looks highly unlikely that even The Walking Dead series will be finished. 2) A new publisher will not touch the console version of 7DtD this late in the game. 3) TFP are spread thin, and cannot continue progress with the PC version of 7DtD if they have to work on the console versions as well, nor would it financially make sense because the PS5 is on the horizon. As a parting gift, I would like to see TFP somehow finish the last update TT Games was working on, as well as eliminating the game-breaking stability issues, but I'm not going to hold my breath. If any of you want updates on the state of Telltale Games, subscribe to Yong Yea on Youtube. Telltale's Collapse Continues as Members of Skeleton Crew Are Also Laid Off (10/6/2018) Sony CEO Kenichiro Yoshida Says PS5 is “Necessary” https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/441795-sony-ceo-kenichiro-yoshida-says-ps5-is-necessary P.S. Welcome back, Clare! "May your troubles be less And your blessings be more. And nothing but happiness Come through your door." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irjvik Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 My apologies them. (and my bad too !) During all those months I was 100% sure it was a paid DLC. Thank you Clare for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minisith Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It was going to be a reg update with an engine upgrade. Not paid for DLC. Only paid for DLC for 7DTD has been cosmetic skins. It wouldn't have made sense to change that. You posts are still being tracked by http://7d2d.rocks/ Dev Tracker, so you are still important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanPatriot Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It was going to be a reg update with an engine upgrade. Not paid for DLC. Only paid for DLC for 7DTD has been cosmetic skins. It wouldn't have made sense to change that. In case it becomes necessary many of us will give donations. Better having it this way than never having an update if TFP don't have enough budget to finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuttedLightning Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 You posts are still being tracked by http://7d2d.rocks/ Dev Tracker, so you are still important! She will always be important to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irjvik Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Link with the TFP quote, please. Post #1 on this thread : ... Rest assured The Fun Pimps are committed to the future of the 7 Days to Die Franchise and will continue to update and support 7 Days on every platform we can ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax777 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Post #1 on this thread : That's a far cry from your "it's settled" statement. The "we can" means The Fun Pimps will continue to support consoles IF they can. By no means is "7 Days to Die" dead; it most certainly will go Gold status on Steam for the PC. Just don't expect TFP to put a halt to their PC development to focus solely on the console ports. As I stated earlier, to do so would be unwise financially and for their timetable goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckystrike2778 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 TWD series will b finished. If you follow the show at all on AMC, Kirkmans studio is picking it up from TTG. He already saidit because he couldnt stand losing Clems journey and Rick Grimes in the same year. It was posted either FBor Twit or maybe both but i cant find the link sorry. Cant even remember his studios name atm. Sky-something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nootcaase Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 TWD series will b finished. If you follow the show at all on AMC, Kirkmans studio is picking it up from TTG. He already saidit because he couldnt stand losing Clems journey and Rick Grimes in the same year. It was posted either FBor Twit or maybe both but i cant find the link sorry. Cant even remember his studios name atm. Sky-something The Walking Dead was Telltales development project. They were able to get another studio to finish it. 7 Days on console is not the same. The best outcome.that we can hope for is that TTG finds another publisher. That is the sunshine and rainbow result. What is more likely, is that they will try to sell the console rights back to the Fun Pimps. If a price.can be agreed upon, then it will be on the Fun Pimps to find a new publisher. I cannot see TFP attempting to publish it themselves at this point. They don't have the funds to back the project. They may try and finish it themselves, but that won't happen until they consider the PC version as done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw_187 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Folks nobody is abandoning the console development. We are working to either finish it as planned or peacefully bring the rights back home and resume the porting of A16 which significant work has been invested. We want to keep it going A16, A17 and beyond. We are only being cautious about releasing statements until things are 100% settled. Cheers Richard Just wanna keep this reply going so it's not lost in this thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clare Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 You posts are still being tracked by http://7d2d.rocks/ Dev Tracker, so you are still important! Ha, I forgot that existed, thanks for reminding me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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