angus31 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Once they said July was going to be the "target" for A17 experimental, I instantly bet my friend $50 that they DEFINITELY would NOT release the EXP in July (Simply going by Fun Pimps history and ALWAYS being off/late on everything!). It looks like I am going to be $50 richer! That said - one other piece of info that I found quite amusing is after A16 was released they (The Fun Pimps) SPECIFICALLY said "we want to release content in smaller batches so it can be more frequently". The funny part is since that statement we are now entering the LONGEST period EVER between releases LMAO! Love the game, love the work - but DAMN! There are devs with far less people/employees, waaay less $ and more complicated games who releases content faster than TFP's snails pace! lmao! And no one can say "Well they want to get it right" - (See multiple bugs in each and every prior release and currently in game) Anyways - Hope it comes soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krytek Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 And no one can say "Well they want to get it right" - (See multiple bugs in each and every prior release and currently in game) It doesnt mean bug free. It means being playable without too much gamebreaking bugs. Im getting impatient too, hope you lost your bet tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I wish I had a dense friend with money to burn like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullpoker Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This next version is special since they're converting it to a newer version of Unity and need to rebuild a lot of things to make them work in the new engine. In the words of LMFAO, "STOP! Hatin is bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I must say, this was a clever ploy to get A17 released on time. Roland will show this to Joel, who will rush a gameplay video, which will mean that stream blitz happens this coming Friday, which will mean that A17-E releases next Monday, July 30. We know that there never was any bet; you just wanted them to release it to spite you. Unless, they saw right through your ploy, and they will in no way respond to threats (veiled or otherwise) and you will not get A17 for six more months. Unless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I must say, this was a clever ploy to get A17 released on time. Roland will show this to Joel, who will rush a gameplay video, which will mean that stream blitz happens this coming Friday, which will mean that A17-E releases next Monday, July 30. We know that there never was any bet; you just wanted them to release it to spite you. Unless, they saw right through your ploy, and they will in no way respond to threats (veiled or otherwise) and you will not get A17 for six more months. Unless... I don't know, I think he is dead serious. He only post here and there with only 4 post. He "lmao" is what I actually find funny in his post. He obviously doesn't do any reading and research before making claims so he can laugh but mostly everyone else is laughing at him. But anyway I did like your idea though for what it is worth lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxTeller718 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Once they said July was going to be the "target" for A17 experimental, I instantly bet my friend $50 that they DEFINITELY would NOT release the EXP in July (Simply going by Fun Pimps history and ALWAYS being off/late on everything!). It looks like I am going to be $50 richer! That said - one other piece of info that I found quite amusing is after A16 was released they (The Fun Pimps) SPECIFICALLY said "we want to release content in smaller batches so it can be more frequently". The funny part is since that statement we are now entering the LONGEST period EVER between releases LMAO! Love the game, love the work - but DAMN! There are devs with far less people/employees, waaay less $ and more complicated games who releases content faster than TFP's snails pace! lmao! And no one can say "Well they want to get it right" - (See multiple bugs in each and every prior release and currently in game) Anyways - Hope it comes soon! You literally have NO idea what it takes to develop a game. If you did you wouldnt post such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlayerGM Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yes, I recall madmole saying that after a16 they wanted to keep it short. I think it's a sign of bad management.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Hmm. Split and I make sure it's not going to make July? =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 There are devs with far less people/employees, waaay less $ and more complicated games who releases content faster than TFP's snails pace! lmao! Neat! I want to try some of these games. Can you name one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlayerGM Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Neat! I want to try some of these games. Can you name one? Pretty frequent updates, fairly similar game. https://empyriononline.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeferPitou Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 the more time TFP take the more bug fixes would be the faster stable will release there is not much left to wait brodah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 You know, if they release to Streamers this Friday, and then to the general masses next Monday, it's still a July release..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 You know, if they release to Streamers this Friday, and then to the general masses next Monday, it's still a July release..... https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/283/350.png For some reason I can't add an image.... url , nor manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlinfire Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Gonna be 100% honest. I've seen the "ok this was a long one but we laid a foundation that will allow us to release more frequently" at least twice from TFP, and despite that, the release cycles get longer, not shorter, after which the same refrain is made. I've already seen more than 1 TFP employee or mod say that post-A17, it won't take as long because of the "foundation that's built into A17". Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I said this long ago, they need to have a second branch that focuses on the smaller fixes and minor features that can be implemented over shorter periods of time (this is what we can get done in the next 3 months), to be released as X.6, X.7, etc. They sort of do that (there are some hotfixes after major releases) but then the "big features" snowball into a 15-month sprint that's more of a marathon. Somebody in the dev team needs to be the evil tyrant and bring down the hammer on feature creep for individual sprints. It'll help a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazywildfire Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Gonna be 100% honest. I've seen the "ok this was a long one but we laid a foundation that will allow us to release more frequently" at least twice from TFP, and despite that, the release cycles get longer, not shorter, after which the same refrain is made. I've already seen more than 1 TFP employee or mod say that post-A17, it won't take as long because of the "foundation that's built into A17". Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I said this long ago, they need to have a second branch that focuses on the smaller fixes and minor features that can be implemented over shorter periods of time (this is what we can get done in the next 3 months), to be released as X.6, X.7, etc. They sort of do that (there are some hotfixes after major releases) but then the "big features" snowball into a 15-month sprint that's more of a marathon. Somebody in the dev team needs to be the evil tyrant and bring down the hammer on feature creep for individual sprints. It'll help a lot! But if what they said is true then it really isn't going to matter because they are saying that A18 could be the last alpha/or will be beta. So at this point they should just do what they are doing regardless if it takes another year for the next one. Is it really that big of deal anyway? I guess to some it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUST2DEATH Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Gonna be 100% honest. I've seen the "ok this was a long one but we laid a foundation that will allow us to release more frequently" at least twice from TFP, and despite that, the release cycles get longer, not shorter, after which the same refrain is made. I've already seen more than 1 TFP employee or mod say that post-A17, it won't take as long because of the "foundation that's built into A17". Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I said this long ago, they need to have a second branch that focuses on the smaller fixes and minor features that can be implemented over shorter periods of time (this is what we can get done in the next 3 months), to be released as X.6, X.7, etc. They sort of do that (there are some hotfixes after major releases) but then the "big features" snowball into a 15-month sprint that's more of a marathon. Somebody in the dev team needs to be the evil tyrant and bring down the hammer on feature creep for individual sprints. It'll help a lot! OR.. Adding new feature breaks existing. Fixing existing bug(s) break other things further. It doesnt have to be feature creep that drags the whole thing down, merely just fixing existing bugs can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 -Morloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druga Runda Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I hope there are many more alphas to come. I love the concept of paying for one game and playing 10 different ones as we move along the dev cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzHawkeye Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I hope there are many more alphas to come. I love the concept of paying for one game and playing 10 different ones as we move along the dev cycle. Yes, there is that. While the end of Alpha will signal the commencement of some welcome focus on optimisation, it'll also mean the end of major new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Yes, there is that. While the end of Alpha will signal the commencement of some welcome focus on optimisation, it'll also mean the end of major new content. But....also the beginning of the next project. I'm ready to make another $30 installment for 1000's of hours of more gameplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 ...I'm ready to make another $30 installment for 1000's of hours of more gameplay Indeed. These guys have been really great. I've wasted sooooo much $$$$ on failed KS/EA stuff. I wish I'd invested in 7D2D. -Morloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlayerGM Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 But....also the beginning of the next project. I'm ready to make another $30 installment for 1000's of hours of more gameplay Yeah! But better wait a little, otherwise, based on current trends, we might get another battle royale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlinfire Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 OP Just won $50, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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