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[12/11] Message from the Team - Patch 13 in Submission!

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The live update is below this and not up in the sticky section for some reason. If anyone cares lol

 

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If you read above or explore some and read the threads you will find the answers. That is all I will say to this. Not going to go into it again because it will get off topic and not going to repeat the same thing over.

 

I like your restraint! Comments like his drive me (and the other diehards like yourself, I'm sure) crazy. Some people don't get it, don't research, or just don't care. I am thrilled these devs don't listen to the "hurry up" nay-sayers and are working diligently on putting out a true masterpiece. This game is a masterpiece imo. I've been gaming since Atari and NEVER have put so many hours into one game! Every update (bug fixes or content) is FREE. It's like Christmas every few months. Chill out, people...

 

Said it already, but thank you Fun Pimps. Hats off to everyone involved for creating such a truly enjoyable, immersive game. Please keep up the hard work.

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Is the MD5 glitch addressed in this patch???

 

The short answer is: probably yes for a larger number of people than before but no guarantees that you personally will be in that group.

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I like your restraint! Comments like his drive me (and the other diehards like yourself, I'm sure) crazy. Some people don't get it, don't research, or just don't care. I am thrilled these devs don't listen to the "hurry up" nay-sayers and are working diligently on putting out a true masterpiece. This game is a masterpiece imo. I've been gaming since Atari and NEVER have put so many hours into one game! Every update (bug fixes or content) is FREE. It's like Christmas every few months. Chill out, people...

 

Said it already, but thank you Fun Pimps. Hats off to everyone involved for creating such a truly enjoyable, immersive game. Please keep up the hard work.

 

out of my heart, thx.

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I think you might have missed his point and it is a valid one. Name me one game that was sold as a finished product that has been out for what 2 years on console that still has known crash issues(Xbox)? I understand the love for the game or I wouldn’t still be playing it but at some point TFPs have to be seen as a company and be held accountable for releasing an unfinished buggy game. If TFPs were EA would you be so quick to come to their defense? Blind faith in any company is a recipe for ruin. Again I love the game but I will hold any company (no matter their size) to the same standards.

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I think you might have missed his point and it is a valid one. Name me one game that was sold as a finished product that has been out for what 2 years on console that still has known crash issues(Xbox)? I understand the love for the game or I wouldn’t still be playing it but at some point TFPs have to be seen as a company and be held accountable for releasing an unfinished buggy game. If TFPs were EA would you be so quick to come to their defense? Blind faith in any company is a recipe for ruin. Again I love the game but I will hold any company (no matter their size) to the same standards.

TFP didn't do the console port.

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I think you might have missed his point and it is a valid one. Name me one game that was sold as a finished product that has been out for what 2 years on console that still has known crash issues(Xbox)? I understand the love for the game or I wouldn’t still be playing it but at some point TFPs have to be seen as a company and be held accountable for releasing an unfinished buggy game. If TFPs were EA would you be so quick to come to their defense? Blind faith in any company is a recipe for ruin. Again I love the game but I will hold any company (no matter their size) to the same standards.

 

I see and understand where you're coming from. For me, I bought a digital copy from the marketplace and it stated it was not a finished product. The Long Dark, and even PUB G stated this as well. I expect bugs and issues from games like these, but also expect patches and fixes. Idk if the disk copy had a warning on it or not.

 

On that note, I'm pretty sure TFP have heard complaints such as yours and have taken them to heart. If you watch madmoles videos he has stated that the team has brought in AI specialists for the zombies, people to work on the POI's etc. So they are working hard to finish their product

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I think you might have missed his point and it is a valid one. Name me one game that was sold as a finished product that has been out for what 2 years on console that still has known crash issues(Xbox)? I understand the love for the game or I wouldn’t still be playing it but at some point TFPs have to be seen as a company and be held accountable for releasing an unfinished buggy game. If TFPs were EA would you be so quick to come to their defense? Blind faith in any company is a recipe for ruin. Again I love the game but I will hold any company (no matter their size) to the same standards.

 

I don't think we did. His and otherspoint wasn't about the crashes and such as much as matching the pc. This isn't being blind it is just knowing why the console doesn't stay up to date with pc. As far as crashes goes I have not seen them given up yet so until they do I still stick behind them. Also TFP are working on getting the pc version for the game finished. A different company is working on the console porting what they can when they are able to console. Now I don't have a clue about this but maybe when the game is finished on pc TFP might try and help with the console. I guess that is something either they will answer or we will find out later down the road.

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TFP didn't do the console port.

 

It is their game....you don’t get to wipe your hands of it as soon as you sign over the rights and they even have said themselves that they work with said companies in at least sending them the assets and none of that covers the looong over due crash fixes. Still I love the game but even I am starting to wonder why I was able to buy an unfinished game on disc.

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It is their game....you don’t get to wipe your hands of it as soon as you sign over the rights and they even have said themselves that they work with said companies in at least sending them the assets and none of that covers the looong over due crash fixes. Still I love the game but even I am starting to wonder why I was able to buy an unfinished game on disc.

 

Nobody has said anything about wiping hands. The main focus is for them to finish the they started on pc first. This doesn't mean they don't care or they are not helping when they can and so on. But they also have obligations to finish this game on pc where it started. Another team came to them and seen in pc version A14 what they had was good enough to make a game out of it for console so they worked out whatever deal they worked out and the other team took over the console part so they could focus on the pc and finish it.

 

As far as you being able to buy this game on disc. It isn't I don't understand where you are coming from and not that I don't see your point. But for console it is a finished game. The console team saw a finished game at A14. Does not mean it isn't buggy and all the above it doesn't mean that they are not going to keep adding what they can for console. Just means that no guarantee that console will get anymore content so technically if console is at the limitations and can't handle anymore content then the game is finished on console. The console version isn't doing alphas and testing the game so goes back to why they call it finished. So technically it isn't unfinished unless you talk about the bugs and crashes. But that isn't what makes it finished and unfinished. Every game that comes out today has bugs and you buy them on disc so the question is why are you able to buy them on disc? Yes this game probably has more issues then others but bugs are bugs. Like I said I understand what you are saying and it isn't that I don't. I just know that the team has not given up yet and are still working pretty hard to fix the issues. Just like any other game that comes out just they are having harder time fixing the issues then other games but then again other games are not like this one and this game does have high limitations when it comes to console. The way I see it knowing this as long as they are trying they have my support.

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Nobody has said anything about wiping hands. The main focus is for them to finish the they started on pc first. This doesn't mean they don't care or they are not helping when they can and so on. But they also have obligations to finish this game on pc where it started. Another team came to them and seen in pc version A14 what they had was good enough to make a game out of it for console so they worked out whatever deal they worked out and the other team took over the console part so they could focus on the pc and finish it.

 

As far as you being able to buy this game on disc. It isn't I don't understand where you are coming from and not that I don't see your point. But for console it is a finished game. The console team saw a finished game at A14. Does not mean it isn't buggy and all the above it doesn't mean that they are not going to keep adding what they can for console. Just means that no guarantee that console will get anymore content so technically if console is at the limitations and can't handle anymore content then the game is finished on console. The console version isn't doing alphas and testing the game so goes back to why they call it finished. So technically it isn't unfinished unless you talk about the bugs and crashes. But that isn't what makes it finished and unfinished. Every game that comes out today has bugs and you buy them on disc so the question is why are you able to buy them on disc? Yes this game probably has more issues then others but bugs are bugs. Like I said I understand what you are saying and it isn't that I don't. I just know that the team has not given up yet and are still working pretty hard to fix the issues. Just like any other game that comes out just they are having harder time fixing the issues then other games but then again other games are not like this one and this game does have high limitations when it comes to console. The way I see it knowing this as long as they are trying they have my support.

 

I understand the limitations and a appreciate how civil this has been so before I go any farther thank you for that but what the unhappy few that are still getting crashes that have been known about for so long something needs to be said and done. This is the only place where you even have the slightest chance at getting an answer to crashes and other issues so we come here in hopes that when we see New Update! the 1st thing we see will be MD5 error found and finally FIXED! but there is always next year.

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I understand the limitations and a appreciate how civil this has been so before I go any farther thank you for that but what the unhappy few that are still getting crashes that have been known about for so long something needs to be said and done. This is the only place where you even have the slightest chance at getting an answer to crashes and other issues so we come here in hopes that when we see New Update! the 1st thing we see will be MD5 error found and finally FIXED! but there is always next year.

 

Yeah I know I don't always use my choice of words the right way at times. But honestly I don't try to be uncivil lol. I also know I'm not always right and things I say at times is my opinion then facts. I also know that this is probably getting a little off topic so I will try not to go to much more into here on this thread.

 

I don't think they will ever put in the notes that MD5 are fixed. So many things are causing them. From my understanding they do fix some the triggers that do cause them in every update even if they don't get posted. I don't recall any update notes that have said anything about them but the game has had a improvement in the crashes. This I guess is a opinion but I personally don't think they will ever have 100% crash free for console because of the console being under spec and such. Do I feel they will keep reducing the crashes sure. But I also feel until TFP are finished with the pc version or the console team comes to the conclusion that the console can't handle anything else (I don't think they will make that call until pc is finsihed) and they can get a over all optimize or what ever the correct term is. I don't think we will see until then what the kind of crashes and such it will be like. That will be a good ways away. Until then all we can do is hope that they can reduce them down more and more where it isn't quite so frustrating.

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It is their game....you don’t get to wipe your hands of it as soon as you sign over the rights and they even have said themselves that they work with said companies in at least sending them the assets and none of that covers the looong over due crash fixes. Still I love the game but even I am starting to wonder why I was able to buy an unfinished game on disc.

The PC version is their game. The console is developed by Iron Galaxy, and published by Telltale. TTG and IG are responsible for the console version. TTG is primarily responsible for the console games, not TFP by any stretch. They could almost be considered separate entities completely the way it is handled.

 

It is sold as a finished product of the Alpha 14 PC version. Given the hardware limitations in the console, it's amazing some of the things they have been able to add or it.

 

It should also be noted that TFP actively assist in bug fixing, and further development, of the console when they can. Their primary focus however, is on the PC Alpha test and developing it. There is a video in the Sticky thread I created in the Console General Discussion forum that describes it.

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Plus my understanding of the dreaded "MD5" is not one single error/crash, it is the type of crash that's happening.

 

Basically the game has a dumbarse moment & rewrites part of your map & resets it to default. All they can fix are certain triggers causing these.

 

Unfortunately, our Xbox brothers & sisters suffer from these the most but also my understanding this is due to Xbox hardware (hence pretty much why only Xbox people suffer from these).

A huge trigger being something about the save system & lack of support for external save options by Xbox.

 

Anyhow this is my basic understanding of the crappy "MD5" stuff. It's almost like a bad pimple that pops up just as things are going good...BOOM....breakout right before picture time or a hot date, lol.

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New Content

 

Not sure exactly where to post this so I'm sorry if it's in the wrong spot. I was wondering if anyone can tell me when PlayStation is getting new content added. Thank you

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Not sure exactly where to post this so I'm sorry if it's in the wrong spot. I was wondering if anyone can tell me when PlayStation is getting new content added. Thank you

You will know when they announce it in this forum section.

 

You will not know before hand, and no one will ever be able to tell you before hand.

 

Things have been this way since the dawn of time.

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