icehot 9 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just realised looking at the XML that the tool and die sets aren't even in the trader secret stashes no matter how high your barter! So I've just made a modlet to give it a chance to spawn for the high level barter level, that way there's less chance of your progress being gimped by RNG. Link to post Share on other sites
Star69 44 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Quite possibly, there's only 2 items i actually want in the game now, the silencer, and the tool and die set, i'm checking every trader every 3 days for them, but nothing unfortunately. And I have better barter on 5/5 - - - Updated - - - Unfortunately it's become like the caliper situation all over again. Somewhat related to your post....I found my first silencer yesterday, it fit on my shotgun, but when I fired the shotgun it woke up the neighborhood as if there was no silencer. Is it supposed to work on the shotty or only the other guns? Link to post Share on other sites
Quantum Blue 43 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Bless them. If only they were geologists because then they wouldn't get burned out so easily. I mean, Earth is still in the early game, and you don't see DaVega complaining. Huh? Oh, you mean complaining about the Earth. Whew. You obviously haven't monitored his 7D2D posts until recently. I swear he and Royal Deluxe have this weird symbiosis thing going on. Although, Royal addresses his situation with his Superman outfits (not talking about the Batman avatar...) and ~ titanium blocks... DaVega just needs time for a new crusty surface to appear (before it gets all littered up with 'vegetation' and 'LIFE' again). But remember, while you might only see a hard crusty surface, he's a little 'melt in your mouth' (maybe your whole body) deep down inside. ---- I almost always have 5 beakers by day 20. (since A15.) But, then again I have always had 5-6x as much brass than lead... (in many 7D2D games...) Link to post Share on other sites
Cotabucky 19 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just realised looking at the XML that the tool and die sets aren't even in the trader secret stashes no matter how high your barter! So I've just made a modlet to give it a chance to spawn for the high level barter level, that way there's less chance of your progress being gimped by RNG. Pretty sure it is unless I added it and forgot lol Link to post Share on other sites
icehot 9 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Pretty sure it is unless I added it and forgot lol It definitely isn't! It can spawn in the usual area for the trader under the tools section but not his secret stash. Link to post Share on other sites
The Gronk 428 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just realised looking at the XML that the tool and die sets aren't even in the trader secret stashes no matter how high your barter! So I've just made a modlet to give it a chance to spawn for the high level barter level, that way there's less chance of your progress being gimped by RNG. It's somewhere in the normal stash. The trader near my base has had one for sale for quite a while now. I found the tool and die set very early on. I had issues finding a cooking pot for the best part of the first week and then found four in a kitchen. "The Gods of Greece are cruel!" - Jason and the Argonauts Link to post Share on other sites
Cotabucky 19 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 yeah its in regular tools. just checked Link to post Share on other sites
icehot 9 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It should be in the higher level secret stash considering how important ammo is for horde nights and POI's later game. Link to post Share on other sites
xxx73 19 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 One big issue I have found is the experience gained from breaking blocks. The balance of the game is out of hand, the only thing to do to level up is to break blocks. It seems like all other gameplay elements like exploring, killing zeds, crafting and looting is just forgotten. People love different parts of this game but to level up everyone have to do the same. This have gotten worse in the latest versisons. This need to better balanced to make the game more interesting again for different players. Link to post Share on other sites
beerfly 276 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 "The Gods of Greece are cruel!" - Jason and the Argonauts Great movie, great story. Indeed, loot IS random guys, its part of the game and how you evolve in it. I love that I haven`t found an auger yet, but I dream about it while opening every loot box. I had one in day 2, tier 2 (in previous savegame) and it helped a lot with gaining experience and fortify as an animal, but not now, I am 35 day and have cobblestone base with cobblestone plates as second layer just to imagine,if a night horde comes I could survive. I wont... Tool and die set is somewhere there, keep looting and enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland 3,024 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 And again i lay my fate in rolands hands A17.1 Changelog Changed: Mines can now be picked up by using a wrench. Link to post Share on other sites
Cotabucky 19 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Great movie, great story. Indeed, loot IS random guys, its part of the game and how you evolve in it. I love that I haven`t found an auger yet, but I dream about it while opening every loot box. I had one in day 2, tier 2 (in previous savegame) and it helped a lot with gaining experience and fortify as an animal, but not now, I am 35 day and have cobblestone base with cobblestone plates as second layer just to imagine,if a night horde comes I could survive. I wont... Tool and die set is somewhere there, keep looting and enjoy. I think most everything should be available by trader but just make some things a very high cost so people can get or find things but have multiple ways to do it. loot,selling things,doing jobs,etc not just rely on luck of spawn as we know that can suck.Like trying to win the lottery Link to post Share on other sites
PoppaTot 15 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 A17.1 Changelog Changed: Mines can now be picked up by using a wrench. In Twitch emote talk.... should this sentence end with a PogChamp or a Kappa lol Link to post Share on other sites
stallionsden 440 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 A17.1 Changelog Changed: Mines can now be picked up by using a wrench. Typo Roland... You meant to say mines can now be picked up by standing on them muahahahahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites
DaVegaNL 163 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (whispering to your left ear) I can find few posts of you complaing about stuff in a17e, but fortunately for you I am part time lazy human. (loud voice) Keep it up sir, complaining is what real men do not do. - - - Updated - - - Got tool and die set first week with lucky looter 2nd level. I am lvl 69 now and have 5. Anyone want some ? *slides 5 euro bill over the table* Will that make those posts disappear? Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 3 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Ok, so I haven't been basebuilding yet... but I have a question about the tablesaw (since I did find a few)... How does this work?... do I HAVE to be at the tablesaw to make certain shapes?... if so... that's so... f***ing annoying and user UNfriendly... and totally takes away the FUN of basebuilding for me... so each time you run out of the shape u r using or when u just want to try a whole range of shapes, u need to go back at the tablesaw? I don't mind you need to have it or something... but to actually be next to it to make the shapes... TFP almost doesn't want us to make our own stuff except for the simple stuff... Link to post Share on other sites
DaVegaNL 163 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Huh? Oh, you mean complaining about the Earth. Whew. You obviously haven't monitored his 7D2D posts until recently. I swear he and Royal Deluxe have this weird symbiosis thing going on. Although, Royal addresses his situation with his Superman outfits (not talking about the Batman avatar...) and ~ titanium blocks... DaVega just needs time for a new crusty surface to appear (before it gets all littered up with 'vegetation' and 'LIFE' again). But remember, while you might only see a hard crusty surface, he's a little 'melt in your mouth' (maybe your whole body) deep down inside. ---- I almost always have 5 beakers by day 20. (since A15.) But, then again I have always had 5-6x as much brass than lead... (in many 7D2D games...) My wife will give you a call anytime soon mate, she will probably ask you to teach me more of that smooth talking you're good at! Link to post Share on other sites
The Gronk 428 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 <snipped for attitude> You can set the table saw crafting a bunch of stuff and then come back later. Just plan ahead a little and know what shapes you need before you go. If you're playing MP then go harvest some resources while you wait. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland 3,024 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 In Twitch emote talk.... should this sentence end with a PogChamp or a Kappa lol Which one of those means 100% complete sincerity? Link to post Share on other sites
Gareee 66 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 You can set the table saw crafting a bunch of stuff and then come back later. Just plan ahead a little and know what shapes you need before you go. If you're playing MP then go harvest some resources while you wait. It's just like a17 forge... it makes all the scrap shapes, I fire it up to cook em, and just go out mining until they are done. Link to post Share on other sites
meganoth 1,001 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 A17.1 Changelog Changed: Mines can now be picked up by using a wrench. Oh damn, I'm level 150 and still haven't found a wrench. I really really would like to pick up mines! RNG doesn't let me. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal Deluxe 90 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 A17.1 Changelog Changed: Mines can now be picked up by using a wrench. Ahhhh nice to know Link to post Share on other sites
Gazz 699 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Roland is such a troll. It doesn't work if the wrench is < tier 5. Link to post Share on other sites
The Gronk 428 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 You, yes, you ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶e̶ four. You're bad people and you should feel bad. I hope TFP put that in, even if only for a single iteration, just to see everyone screaming about the release notes being a lie and how people who have claimed to do it are just trolls. That tense moment when you try it for yourself would be worth it alone. Link to post Share on other sites
beerfly 276 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Roland is such a troll. It doesn't work if the wrench is < tier 5. Don`t forget to keep your intellect level to 0. Link to post Share on other sites
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