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Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

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- Yes, I dropped mine from 3440x1440 to 2560x1080 and the performance difference was huge, and it still looks great.

 

I was trying different resolutions today and it makes a bigger difference that I expected. I have been using 2560x1440 windowed on a 32 inch 4k monitor, but am lowering to 1080p. Video card is GTX 1060.

 

4k - 15 FPS

2560 x 1440 - 35 FPS

1920 x 1080 - 64 FPS

1600 x 900 - 93 FPS

1366 x 768 - 97 FPS

 

I had anti-aliasing off, but was also cheaper than I thought, with about 1 FPS less at any of those resolutions.

 

Moral of the story. Reduce your resolution and try AA.

 

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And Madmole, I am really digging the new progression/perk system. It makes much more sense now, easier to understand overall compared to the last system. There is a bit of a learning curve and adaptation from playing A16 so much, but once you learn and understand how it works it is so much better. I was also able to build my forge on Day 7, so I dunno what all the fuss is about, you gotta kill Z's, which I did a lot of while looting POIs a ton early game. Anyway, overall this, combined with the awesome new graphics, new blocks(the POIs look SO much better now), and formidable AI, this Alpha is a serious milestone of progress. Plus I've finally convinced my son to play with me, get him off of CSGO, R6, and PUBG for awhile. That right there says a ton.

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I've probably played 6-7 hours now with a few friends. I'm enjoying the game a lot -- it's challenging, the new skill system is very good.

 

I feel somewhat stuck that I can't yet build a forge. I need intellect level 4 which requires level 20 and I'm only at level 10 or 11 now -- I have killed around 100 zombies and my party members around 120 all together. I kind of feel that in order to progress I need to grind zombies for a while to get xp.

 

Scavenge, dig, ... Everything gives xp

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Faatal, Madmole, Roland, etc...

I made a 20-minute video showing some awesome stuff but also some bugs.

 

First the good stuff:

Map size is 16384x16384

The game was played in 2560x1440 resolution

The refresh rate is 165 (as seen on the upper right side of the screen)

FPS were 55-60+ for most of the video (as seen on the upper left side of the screen)

 

 

Now for the bugs, I've time-stamped them:

 

Vid link:

 

Bugs:

2:11 - wolf and zombies spawn in

4:51 - really bad terrain generation

5:59 - bad terrain generation

6:32 - floating house

7:08 - suicidal deer (not a big deal kinda funny but immersion breaking)

12:16-12:31 - where did this guy come from? I guess it is possible I didn't see him...

15:45 - did my gaze linger there for a microsecond too long? =)

16:50 - notice there are no sleepers alongside the building (important for upcoming timestamp)

17:15-17:18 - I bleed out because TFPs decided to swap the use key (trolls!)

17:18 - Don't fall when dead

17:50 - the building I mentioned in 16:50, clearly see sleepers appearing 10 feet away from me when I go back for my stuff

18:26 - one of the sleepers blows herself up hitting a car, the other sleeper still sleeping vanishes as I get closer

 

All in all, really like the job you guys did with A17e!

 

Thanks for the video. The world zombies spawning in the distance is legacy code I have not touched, so it needs some research. The sleepers appear to be spawning fine, but POIs should not have them placed outside where you can see them. That could be a POI that is not done/polished yet.

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-Traps: From what I'm noticing the spike traps (wood spikes specifically) don't seem to be slowing down zombies at all, not sure if this is working as intended or not because the description does state that they're supposed to slow them. If it is slowing them it's so minimal as to not even make any difference, either this needs to be fixed if not working correctly or imo it should be tweaked if it is working correctly.

 

They don't slow zombie movement much. They should be causing pain reactions, which stop them from moving while in the pain anim. I just tested wood and iron spikes and saw it doing that.

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I very much dislike the gated perks. There's a lot of different perk options to choose from. The leveling itself acts as its own gate. As it is now I have to choose between unlocking better food options to get me full faster thus getting health/stamina to max OR get the slower metabolism perk to keep my stamina up longer OR have better carrying capacity etc. These choices are HARD, and I love that this is part of the game. Once I pick a tree to climb though, I get gated and now I have points I can't put in anything I want/need for the character I'm playing.

 

Suggestion: Remove the gate and slow level progression, which would make each perk choice more meaningful and allow players to really specialize if they so choose.

 

Saw something on here earlier about vultures being too hard. I mostly like them the way they are, really makes you choose your fights. As long as you keep your health at full they won't attack at all. They actually act like vultures and wait until you get hurt. I've had three or four circling me in the desert as I walked around (they don't go away...ever). Got too comfortable fighting a small group of zeds and got hit once and all four dive-bombed me and I was dead real quick. Maybe have them attack if your health drops below 75% and not 99%?

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Of the complaints that I have, melee (combat at least) actually feels like it's fine imo. There's no point to using regular attacks, only use power attacks. Even level 1 wooden clubs kill stuff pretty easily. I'm currently using a level 1 sledgehammer with 2 ranks of skull crusher and I'm one-shotting the weaker zombies now.

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Saw something on here earlier about vultures being to hard. I mostly like them the way they are, really makes you choose your fights. As long as you keep your health at full they won't attack at all. They actually act like vultures and wait until you get hurt. I've had three or four circling me in the desert as I walked around (they don't go away...ever). Got too comfortable fighting a small group of zeds and got hit once and all four dive-bombed me and I was dead real quick. Maybe have them attack if your health drops below 75% and not 99%?

 

It is 90%, but I will think about it.

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Not sure if this was intentional, but it was pretty hilarious. I was at a trader and a wandering horde walked into the perimeter wall. Since they have super hearing/homing beacons to the player, they stacked into one spot and started jumping. Before too long the ones in the back were jumping onto the heads of the zombies in front and then jumped over the wall into the traders.

This was in Navezgane.

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Edit: Forgot to mention I like it. Definitely keeps you on your toes.

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Not sure if this was intentional, but it was pretty hilarious. I was at a trader and a wandering horde walked into the perimeter wall. Since they have super hearing/homing beacons to the player, they stacked into one spot and started jumping. Before too long the ones in the back were jumping onto the heads of the zombies in front and then jumped over the wall into the traders.

This was in Navezgane.

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Yep, you just discovered pyramiding as I like to call it.

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Molzie m' Mang, Block damage with all tools is horrible.. :< halp?

 

Max skills, tier 6 pick.. does 3 stone per hit.. :c

 

oh, f.u.c.k.i.n.g true!! you are all right... and the model of food are all the same parcel, and drinks true, i dont know it's only on experimental or final version :S

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What is this The Ring? Do we die 7 Days after we play the game?? ♥♥♥♥ I only got a few days left...so what happens the game will launch even with my computer turned off and zombies come out of the screen and kill me now??

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Omg your ai is great fun faatal!

 

It is 90%, but I will think about it.

 

Those Valombies are no fun if U get scratched!

 

Great work people, well worth the wait!

 

I am having a superb time using the bow and staying clear of the deads hands! The new AI is so much more of a challenge. They don't flank you in groups yet thank goodness.

 

I doubled all the Zed xp per kill on my server and am having a great time unlocking the perks. So many new things to learn, thanks for all the solid work you all put in. Such a big step forward from previous works.

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So as I've discovered - Don't be anywhere near the wasteland biomes at night. Really dig the weapons mod system. I did notice that the helmet drinking water filter mod only fits in leg armor I believe?

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What is this The Ring? Do we die 7 Days after we play the game?? ♥♥♥♥ I only got a few days left...so what happens the game will launch even with my computer turned off and zombies come out of the screen and kill me now??

 

Sorry it was a joke :)

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I have been playing on NAV mode for 3 days. I am now on night 6 and I have been able to do nothing for securing a base. I have been attacked from everywhere. I will be unable to make a base or secure a place for 7th day horde night. I am hoping if I stay at the farm house barn i might be safe. I spawned in on the south in the winter biom which needs balancing. On the right track, but you will die.

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Has anyone tested Healing Factor? I put it on my character, but noticed no change. I was at 55 health, and I thought it was supposed to regen 1 HP every 30 secs? I never got an HP back at all until I ate some food.

 

Am I just not understanding how it is supposed to work?

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I am unable to collect wood or rocks without being attacked. Hello, 15 seconds you look around nothing, then 15 zombies appear out of no where and are killing you. No, not balanced or even a working game.

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Sorry it was a joke :)

 

Nice, lol.

 

Seriously great update, no real issues other than trader in B197; not just initial quest but also subsequent quests such as 'Lady Killer'.

 

FPS at a steady 60-65, occasional stutter but nothing to write home about. Loving the whole game play thing, its much better.

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Man how is anybody complaining about this? I think I am enjoying every single decision the Funpimps made! Sure it sucks to run out of stamina, but perk for it and it gets better. I used to have stacks of hundreds of bacon and eggs. At least now I have a reason to eat the food.

 

As for you guys with 15 FPS... I built my computer in 2011 and I am getting 30 to 41 FPS. Are you running a sweet potato or an Idaho spud?

 

I really love the new zombie loot system too. It is actually exciting to see loot drop from them now. I love the idea of great stuff dropping every once in a while instead of crap every time. It used to take me an entire day to clean up all the loot and bodies after a horde.

 

GREAT JOB GUYS!! Well worth the wait!

Thank you, much appreciated. I believe that the performance issues are related to shadows and high resolution.

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