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Same I hardly play pc games just a few I mainly game on PS4 due to everyone I play with is on there

 

It's cheaper to have a console than PC. Not only that, but you know the console will last 6+ years (basing on playstation typically having a new generation every 6 years) and that all games will work on the said console. To have a PC like that, would cost almost quadruple, if not more, to be able to play every game that comes out on PC smoothly without having to turn down graphics to low in that same time frame. And the fact many use it for streaming services. So a console is more efficient/cost effective for a typical family, hence larger market. Whereas to get a great computer takes a computer gamer/engineer/artist/etc that requires a better computer.

 

Now when I think of 7DtD and how intensive it is only a computer due to voxel based, it doesn't surprise me that some updates haven't been made for console cause I could see it overloading it. Once the new optimizations come out, I bet it'll be much more viable and efficient to start updating the console version again.

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People dont seem to understand that. They think just as minecraft has xx 7d2d can have more and better things on console. They are vastly diffrent games. And all consoles are very limited. With sony looming at AMD for there next cpu. And that would want faster ram. So if they go there it would byfar run better they honestly they should go to a 8core 16 thread setup with at least 8 ro 12 gigs of ram and they will run so much better use the laptop verson gpu of there 1080ti space wise there is more then the room needed kooling will be the biggest thing but honestly it could be done very easy. And would run better then. Most pc's out there

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It's cheaper to have a console than PC. Not only that, but you know the console will last 6+ years (basing on playstation typically having a new generation every 6 years) and that all games will work on the said console. To have a PC like that, would cost almost quadruple, if not more, to be able to play every game that comes out on PC smoothly without having to turn down graphics to low in that same time frame. And the fact many use it for streaming services. So a console is more efficient/cost effective for a typical family, hence larger market. Whereas to get a great computer takes a computer gamer/engineer/artist/etc that requires a better computer.

 

Now when I think of 7DtD and how intensive it is only a computer due to voxel based, it doesn't surprise me that some updates haven't been made for console cause I could see it overloading it. Once the new optimizations come out, I bet it'll be much more viable and efficient to start updating the console version again.

 

Its actually cheaper to build a pc. Plus u can always upgrade. If u cant build , it will cost you maybe $100 more, but it be worth it.Also games r way cheaper and have more sales.Im no computer expert and other pc users can give better arguments,but this the basics of it.

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Its actually cheaper to build a pc. Plus u can always upgrade. If u cant build , it will cost you maybe $100 more, but it be worth it.Also games r way cheaper and have more sales.Im no computer expert and other pc users can give better arguments,but this the basics of it.

 

You can't build a gaming PC for less than $400, it costs more than that for the GPU alone, one that will run great, especially with all the bit mining making prices soar over MSRP. And upgrading, yes, but most people don't want to care to upgrade a part here n there. Shoot, a lot of times I actually find it cheaper to have it built by a company than to build it myself. You keep a whole console for however many years, a PC needs to be upgraded at least once every 2 years if you want to stay maxed on everything. On a console, you just buy the next gen when it comes out many years later.

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You can't build a gaming PC for less than $400, it costs more than that for the GPU alone, one that will run great, especially with all the bit mining making prices soar over MSRP. And upgrading, yes, but most people don't want to care to upgrade a part here n there. Shoot, a lot of times I actually find it cheaper to have it built by a company than to build it myself. You keep a whole console for however many years, a PC needs to be upgraded at least once every 2 years if you want to stay maxed on everything. On a console, you just buy the next gen when it comes out many years later.

 

There is your misinterpretation... if you want to have the most state of the art gaming system yes you will spend money. Is it comparable to buying a new console every ~2 years? Well if you add it all together yeah it is...

 

You can also buy video cards in the $150 range that are quite good and can run most games on min or med quality.

 

I built my first gaming rig myself over 10 years ago and only built a new one 2 years ago after I couldn't get anymore out of my system.

 

The PC will always provide a superior experience because the hardware is standardized and open to the free market to compete for your money to fill those spots. On the other side consoles are designed to have a limited shelf life and are meant to mimic a pc like experience.

 

Unfortunately the price is the one major factor where consoles can sort of stand up, they are less expensive then staying at the top end of pc gaming constantly. Can you get value out of buying good hardware that isn't the most expensive? Definitely, but spend your money wisely, people who buy the top end of the hardware spectrum are doing 2 things, they are paying the most, and they are beta testing new hardware.

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Does the new code handle occurrences like vehicles falling though the terrain/blocks?

This can potentially happen with any (non perfect) game physics.

 

Handling in a way that the vehicle gets respawned on top of the terrain somehow, falling down to it. Or at some other safe place, like a previous position.

 

Yes, it has off world, so revert move and underground, so push to surface code.

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There is your misinterpretation... if you want to have the most state of the art gaming system yes you will spend money. Is it comparable to buying a new console every ~2 years? Well if you add it all together yeah it is...

 

You can also buy video cards in the $150 range that are quite good and can run most games on min or med quality.

 

I built my first gaming rig myself over 10 years ago and only built a new one 2 years ago after I couldn't get anymore out of my system.

 

The PC will always provide a superior experience because the hardware is standardized and open to the free market to compete for your money to fill those spots. On the other side consoles are designed to have a limited shelf life and are meant to mimic a pc like experience.

 

Unfortunately the price is the one major factor where consoles can sort of stand up, they are less expensive then staying at the top end of pc gaming constantly. Can you get value out of buying good hardware that isn't the most expensive? Definitely, but spend your money wisely, people who buy the top end of the hardware spectrum are doing 2 things, they are paying the most, and they are beta testing new hardware.

 

yes, and if you noticed, I was comparing about running games on near high/max settings. So to do that with all games, you have to update often whereas on console, they are typically same graphics other than 4k. No changing between low/medium/high/ultra/whatever level. If you want to play on all low graphics and short view distance, yeah, you can buy a $400 or $500 computer, and then have to upgrade it in a couple years to keep it once again enough to run low graphics if not sooner. I have a computer that's 4 years old that I'm playing this game on, but it's typically low graphics and short view distance. Rather play it on my newer one where I can typically do mostly high with medium distance. Still rather have more, but don't have the money.

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here is new video if someone missed it

 

 

Nice of her to share. But the phone thing sucks. All those text all over the screen and alert sounds going off every moment. That and all the adds popping up for Geico every few seconds. Because you know you can't have a video without some jerkoff with an adds.

 

I'm cool with Pocket-Ninja though.

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I recently upgraded my pc. I want from a quad core 9650, to an I7 8700k coffee lake, a board upgrade to an Aorus gaming board, from 8GB of ddr2!! To 16GB ddr4, and from a standard oem type fan cpu cooler, to an H100i water cooler. I bought a new case but kept my old psu, i already use an ssd for my OS, and standard 7200rpm hdd’s for everything else. I also kept my Nvidia Gforce 970 4GB. I spent around £1200, but mostly because i endedup buying 2 cases (i wanted one with a slot for my DVD rom, but the first one didn't have one, the second one did but i had to pay £120 instead of the £70 for the first one).

 

 

7dtd played fine on the old machine at high settings, it plays fine now on high settings too. I didn’t need to upgrade for 7dtd, but there are some other upcoming games that i know my PC wouldn’t have played very well. My last pc was getting on for 8 years old (graphics card is only about 2 years old though).

 

I don’t think upgrading the entire PC is neccessary, just to play 7dtd, unless your computer is still running windows ME, and was made by tiny. Anything with XP or newer should run it fine, if you're struggling with low fps, upgrade your GPU. You can pick up a 1060 for around £200, a 970/980 for just under. They WILL run the game just fine.

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You can't build a gaming PC for less than $400, it costs more than that for the GPU alone, one that will run great, especially with all the bit mining making prices soar over MSRP. And upgrading, yes, but most people don't want to care to upgrade a part here n there. Shoot, a lot of times I actually find it cheaper to have it built by a company than to build it myself. You keep a whole console for however many years, a PC needs to be upgraded at least once every 2 years if you want to stay maxed on everything. On a console, you just buy the next gen when it comes out many years later.

 

A gaming PC does not have to be expensive. It just has to perform at an acceptable level for the games you play.

 

I don't expect to play any recent PC game on max everything settings. To me, that is for people with $700 GPUs. Until I paid $300 for a GTX 1060 a year or so ago, I always spent around $200 on a GPU and assumed I would have to turn some settings down to play at reasonable frame rates. That is life. Medium PC game settings get you around the same look/feel as current consoles and to me that is still a gaming PC.

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You can't build a gaming PC for less than $400, it costs more than that for the GPU alone, one that will run great, especially with all the bit mining making prices soar over MSRP. And upgrading, yes, but most people don't want to care to upgrade a part here n there. Shoot, a lot of times I actually find it cheaper to have it built by a company than to build it myself. You keep a whole console for however many years, a PC needs to be upgraded at least once every 2 years if you want to stay maxed on everything. On a console, you just buy the next gen when it comes out many years later.

 

My PC is 8 years old. In that 8 years I upped the RAM once for $60, replaced the GPU with a 1050, and bought an $80 SSD. I can play pretty much any game on settings that meet, or beat, console. You keep qualifying the PC with "stay maxed". On console the MAX only goes up every 6 years so just do the same for your PC by not trying to always play on MAX and the money you save in games costing less will more than cover any upgrades you decide to buy.

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yes, and if you noticed, I was comparing about running games on near high/max settings. So to do that with all games, you have to update often whereas on console, they are typically same graphics other than 4k. No changing between low/medium/high/ultra/whatever level. If you want to play on all low graphics and short view distance, yeah, you can buy a $400 or $500 computer, and then have to upgrade it in a couple years to keep it once again enough to run low graphics if not sooner. I have a computer that's 4 years old that I'm playing this game on, but it's typically low graphics and short view distance. Rather play it on my newer one where I can typically do mostly high with medium distance. Still rather have more, but don't have the money.

 

Console graphics are not even close to what a high end PC can do... there are a handful of titles that only specifically will run well on a console but for the most part consoles are just gimpy pc's now.

 

You will most likely have more power in a $150 video card than a console. That being said please don't take what I've said so far negatively by any means, sometimes it is also just preference and I am certainly biased to PC myself.

 

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My PC is 8 years old. In that 8 years I upped the RAM once for $60, replaced the GPU with a 1050, and bought an $80 SSD. I can play pretty much any game on settings that meet, or beat, console. You keep qualifying the PC with "stay maxed". On console the MAX only goes up every 6 years so just do the same for your PC by not trying to always play on MAX and the money you save in games costing less will more than cover any upgrades you decide to buy.

 

Just like cars you can always buy this years newest model, just to support your position which I agree with completely.

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Console graphics are not even close to what a high end PC can do... there are a handful of titles that only specifically will run well on a console but for the most part consoles are just gimpy pc's now.

 

You will most likely have more power in a $150 video card than a console. That being said please don't take what I've said so far negatively by any means, sometimes it is also just preference and I am certainly biased to PC myself.

 

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Just like cars you can always buy this years newest model, just to support your position which I agree with completely.

 

plus hes on a pc forum.

no one will say consoles Have any positives .only good thing is exclusives..

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plus hes on a pc forum.

no one will say consoles Have any positives .only good thing is exclusives..

 

I think ease of use, nearly guaranteed compatibility are are some positives. For developers its also easier to develop a product on a console as well bc of the hardware limitations. Some games are better with a controller (however you can get controllers for PC as well).

 

I also have an nvidia shield at home with several classic console games on it that I play once in a while when I want a hit of nostalgia.

 

Don't want to seem completely biased against console, most gamer's start there for the most part.

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A gaming PC does not have to be expensive. It just has to perform at an acceptable level for the games you play.

 

I don't expect to play any recent PC game on max everything settings. To me, that is for people with $700 GPUs. Until I paid $300 for a GTX 1060 a year or so ago, I always spent around $200 on a GPU and assumed I would have to turn some settings down to play at reasonable frame rates. That is life. Medium PC game settings get you around the same look/feel as current consoles and to me that is still a gaming PC.

 

Nah I need max - I don't have kids or expensive habits (besides computers) so I splurge when I comes to building my PC.

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Believe me, not taking anything personally or negatively. I guess my viewpoint has just been coming from the general consumer. The one that typically wants the best of everything. That and the typical general consumer will not want to replace parts, so they would want a full replacement, not just replace parts as needed. If you are fine playing on low/med, then yeah, very easy to make a decent computer for well under a grand that can last a long time. Personally, I just like how nice things look maxed out, but I know it can't always happen, so I'm fine with medium. Though if I have to go low, I'm a bit frustrated, lol.

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@faatal, Roland, MM & TFPs

 

Is there a Trigger block or something like it "on enter" in A17?

Where one could initiate a zed spawn/event/itemdrop/buff effect/verbal script/quest on the person entering it?

 

Just wondering if this was considered or if the mechanic is already in the game?

 

Thanks.

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