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Well at least the zombie tower of gore issue to bypass defenses is no longer a thing.

 

So zombie parkour is going to replace it? Or are those cheerleaders getting new animations?

I'mma still wait'n for mah ziplines! :p

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Sooo I made a comment about no update for 2 weeks, my post was edited, and received no answer. =(

 

If we could at least get a ballpark estimate on release (i.e. 3-6 weeks, 2-3 months, never) it would be really appreciated.

 

The ballpark was "Definitely before 2019". In other words in the next 2 months. Not a promise, just a statement made by Roland with some confidence.

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Hi, just a question about the A17, i see nothing about that but, is there things about a possible tailoring and tailor recipes ? I mean, we can only loot shirt, skirt etc etc but no craft them. So i ask :)

 

Think you need a tailor bench to craft more complex things.if they even have those in game.

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...why isn't this quote getting more traction?

 

You people know what this means?!? :)

 

If it exactly means zombies can jump as far or high as a maxed out Parkour player, then the whole agility attribute took a Faatal blow. Oh well, less points needed. *Yawn* No need to think much while playing, if that's true.

 

Waiting for perks to just bump your damage by 1% per point... but will also increase zombie damage resistance by 1% too. lol emm

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Jumping Zombies ??? ...pls i hope that's only them getting up on blocks as normal but tweaked so they do it better now :o

 

IF this means that they Jump high or jump 2 to 3 blocks like a player then that is BAD JOO JOO... i realy hope this is not going to go down the road of a Resident Evil type of game. :(

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Jumping Zombies ??? ...pls i hope that's only them getting up on blocks as normal but tweaked so they do it better now :o

 

IF this means that they Jump high or jump 2 to 3 blocks like a player then that is BAD JOO JOO... i realy hope this is not going to go down the road of a Resident Evil type of game. :(

 

I dont get the difference lol, just means you dig a little deeper to make your defences 2-3 layers lower, id love to see them leaping over holes haha. But it probably means they dont sit there bouncing up and down on a block endlessly. Also have different animations so they arent all doing the same thing. Maybe?

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I dont get the difference lol, just means you dig a little deeper to make your defences 2-3 layers lower, id love to see them leaping over holes haha. But it probably means they dont sit there bouncing up and down on a block endlessly. Also have different animations so they arent all doing the same thing. Maybe?

 

Yup. Parkour, could have made it possible for a prepared person, who knew that area, to have a chance at survival above ground, without a fort! It would have been very exciting and dangerous.

 

Back to the mindless slogfest.

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I dont get the difference lol, just means you dig a little deeper to make your defences 2-3 layers lower, id love to see them leaping over holes haha. But it probably means they dont sit there bouncing up and down on a block endlessly. Also have different animations so they arent all doing the same thing. Maybe?

 

What i mean is "Them bouncing up and down on a block endlessly to get up on a 1 high block" as you said Vs them jumping a 2 to 3 block gap.

Some buildings and other items in the game are only 3 blocks wide away from each other.

 

Also me and my wife tend to build a tower with a 3 block wide gap to get into our bases as part of our defence. How i know that people have to change they way they do things as the game changes with it being Alpha but i think Zombies that leap all over tends to go down the Mutant road to the point where there not Zombies anymore.

 

I realy hope they mean the first one and that it's just a tweak to make them move up and over blocks that's all.

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Thank you =) i'd like to but currently it's still not yet finished and it has many issues in 7dtd . it's also difficult to spawn, it's actually split into 2 prefabs because of it's length being greater than the max view distance if your at either of the far ends. So it may be possible to combine the 2 halves so it would spawn as a single prefab but then it would spawn on land and i'm not sure you could get it to spawn on water in rng. So currently the only way to spawn it is through console commands and server mods for rendering prefabs (coppi,bc,dj etc) and you have to get the second half lined up, it's a pain. Then there is the stability issue, there is a trick you can do to make it stable but it's very finicky and requires you to prep the area first before you spawn it. I'm currently working on the interior, just want to finish it first then i can explore solutions to its issues =)

 

still amazing, and something like that would be worth the fiddling to get it all spawned in. :)

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Jumping Zombies ??? ...pls i hope that's only them getting up on blocks as normal but tweaked so they do it better now :o

 

IF this means that they Jump high or jump 2 to 3 blocks like a player then that is BAD JOO JOO... i realy hope this is not going to go down the road of a Resident Evil type of game. :(

 

Nba zombie dlc pack.

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The ballpark was "Definitely before 2019". In other words in the next 2 months. Not a promise, just a statement made by Roland with some confidence.

 

"Definitely" implies more than some confidence, imho.

Out of curiosity, I don't want to start an argument, what would count as a 'promise', in your opinion?

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I do hope the zombies can jump as far as we can. It would kill the ramp entrances to bases where the player can jump and the zombie can't. I think that would be a very good thing.

 

If a maxed out Parkour player can ONLY jump as far as some zombie, then that skill is completely useless.

 

I can delete that skill from your spreadsheet. Thanks again BTW. :)

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Yea but this doesn't necessarily mean that they can jump over things any better. Well I guess we have to wait and see! I hope to see zombies that can jump towards you from a distance! That would be super creepy! They could make a sound right before they jump and then bang, they are in the air headed toowards you!

 

I dont know anything about coding but that looks extremley hard to implement, without it being a buggy mess.

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If a maxed out Parkour player can ONLY jump as far as some zombie, then that skill is completely useless.

 

My take would be parkour would enable you to jump farther.

 

The 0 parkour player and zombie should jump the same.

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One of the best times I have in the game is when you happen to find night vision early on and find a hoard passing though that hasn't seen you.

 

 

Shooting them with the bow and even running through in random directions into the group. Seeing how many you can hit with your hatchet.

Then watching them go in every direction trying to find you in the pitch black. lol

 

Now that was hilarious!

 

Yeah or a horde coming down a hill,but you notice last min.

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"Definitely" implies more than some confidence, imho.

Out of curiosity, I don't want to start an argument, what would count as a 'promise', in your opinion?

 

"definitely" is my word to describe Rolands confidence in this prediction. Since I can't promise anything about 7D2Ds release and (to my knowledge) only I used that word, it can't be a promise.

 

If it is the wrong word for that then it is only my fault. (EDIT) But I doubt that. "Its definitely going to rain" is correct usage of the word, right? Obviously not a promise.

 

Furthermore I know the developers can't/won't guarantee release dates. So I know any communication about that is just an estimate, even if they really should make the mistake of using the word promise. It's like seeing a PC offered for 1 Euro on amazon and knowing it is a mistake and not the real deal. Or seeing the delivery date in kickstarter projects. :smile-new:

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Official A17 Developer Diary for Developers hasn't been updated in like 9 days....

 

Roland's probably been busy trying to teach kids math. It's hard work. Faatal's recent post about jumping zombies and barbed wire will no doubt make the transition to that thread "soon" enough...

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I'm curious how barb wire has been improved. In what way?

 

It has less slowing effect, which was causing zombies to jump and then be stuck in a slow fall, which looked dumb. It causes a 100% pain reaction on damage. The collider is thinner, so entities don't float when walking through.

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It has less slowing effect, which was causing zombies to jump and then be stuck in a slow fall, which looked dumb. It causes a 100% pain reaction on damage. The collider is thinner, so entities don't float when walking through.

 

Can you provide any details on the changes to zombie jumping (unrelated to barb wire) if any?

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It has less slowing effect, which was causing zombies to jump and then be stuck in a slow fall, which looked dumb. It causes a 100% pain reaction on damage. The collider is thinner, so entities don't float when walking through.

 

Hey faatal, ,minibikes get stuck in barb wire and drivers can only rotate on the spot while taking damage. You sometimes can get out, but most times, you have to dismantle the minibike. Think you'll have time to address this?

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Can you provide any details on the changes to zombie jumping (unrelated to barb wire) if any?

 

Zombies would try to jump up on barbed wire like it was a block then they would float like caught in the Minecraft spider web. Now they don't jump but have a pain reaction. There was also a problem where zombies were always jumping on uneven terrain as though the next block over was a full block higher. They looked like bunny rabbits hopping all over the place. That is fixed now.

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