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My character has lived his life in the A17 world. He has done and seen many things, so knowing things makes sense to me.

 

For you, you can go off an amnesia event he had.

 

Or more dramatically, your character is a created creature, immune to the virus, near unlimited potential AND is being "tested", stressed by directed zombie attacks to push you to your limits and grow ever stronger...

 

:)

 

A crazy cat-lady, who after they ate her cats, is bent on the destruction of all zombie kind.

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The Stream Event will not be this weekend. I'm hopeful for the following but still too early to know for sure and then of course stuff happens. But you are free to focus on BBQ and celebrate Labor Day by relaxing.

 

What about BBQ? Are you having one Roland? Where is my invite?

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The Stream Event will not be this weekend. I'm hopeful for the following but still too early to know for sure and then of course stuff happens. But you are free to focus on BBQ and celebrate Labor Day by relaxing.

 

Who knows, maybe Joel will do another video and give us another 40 pages of forum material ;)

 

BBQ confirmed in A17!

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I think this comment shows how off the rails the game itself has become as a survival or horror game and how people themselves do not truly understand that you were playing an unfinished concept that was a work in progress. While it excels at both in my opinion, if your only incentive is to collect loot when killing zombies then that is a failure on the games part in making the zombies an actual threat. As fataal and others have said it wasnt that they intended to deceive, it was that other things needed to be fixed and polished up and implemented before we got to the meat of what this game is truly about. And with the new AI we are finally seeing that vision in all its bloody goodness.

 

The main incentive to kill zombies should be survival. You do not want your base wrecked, and you do not want to die. Zombies are now seen only as loot pinatas to be hunted down and rounded up anyway possible to gather loot, not to disperse a threat or to save your life. As a matter of fact very few kill zombies out of reaction unless a wandering horde shows up. Everything is meticulously planned and A17 is about to drop a bomb on everyone's party when it comes to comfort and ease. Literally no one and nothing is preventing you from gathering the supplies you need to collect a cache of ammo. ESPECIALLY in vanilla where you don't have the limitations some mods put on you like progression gating etc.

 

On our server a good deal of people are annoyed by looting corpses after a certain period of time as zombies are actually a VERY inefficient way of gathering materials. They get way more out of ramboing houses and stores in their purple gear then sitting back and letting spikes destroy a few zombies that may or may not have loot. What this does is force passive players out of their normal tactics and encourages interactive gameplay with the entire environment.

 

It's only my opinion of course, but if i was in charge of development ts actually one of the fist things I would do. Make the zombies a threat, something to be AVOIDED because the risk factor is high. Sneak is going to play a very important role in this Alpha it seems so there is always that option, and that will make gameplay more fun and interesting. We already do this in our mod. A select group of zombies do not drop any loot no matter what but you CAN chop up bodies for bones. Which i agree is also key, and Im sure Pimps have not forgotten we need them.

 

But what do i know. It's not like I run a very successful or popular mod geared to a more survival intensive experience. And while people have issues in some areas with it overall they have a blast playing it. So maybe the Pimps aren't as crazy as one may think with their decisions and their vision. Give it a chance before crucifying it.

 

If anything mods will find a way to put it back the way you like it. Darkness Falls by Khaine and Walkers by Dwall will reach even greater heights because that is the beauty of the whole process. We have options. As for Ravenhearst we won't be adding it back. In our opinion the performance we will gain from this change is 100 percent worth it. Give it a chance before everyone here condemns it.

 

 

I have had time for my emotions to take a hike and logic step in and take over. It is experimental, and they are still in the testing, getting the bugs fixed. Perhaps, if we all hadn't been such whiny babies and yell for a video they would have had a less messed up video, or perhaps not, we don't know. I have remarked several times that this was/is a survival game and the goal shouldn't be killing zombies but staying alive. Underground bases keep you safer for normal times, horde night you need to be up on a wall or in a pit or whatever type of kill setup you want and fight them. My concern has always been for the new players who don't know what they are doing, for the person who due to life's demands can only play for a few hours a week. I'm hoping TFPs think of them and don't make it too difficult at the start.

 

As for me, I'm having fun learning how to build. I won't tell how many times I caved in a tunnel, accidently caused a section of a base to fall apart, built it in a way that would let the zombies in and not keep them out, built a ramp to get on top and went over the base, but as I said, I'm having fun learning and that is important to me. I'm getting better. Still a mix of CM and playing in War of the Walkers, I like the exploring, looking for loot, breaking into houses in new areas; you would be surprised at what you will find. One small house had as many books at you would find in a small bookstore (Perishton). New POIs and seeing what is in there. Oh my Lord, the Pirate Ship, Retirement Center/Wonderland, the Sphinx, Lowes/Home Depot, Oh My! !

 

We need to chill out, step back and let the fun pimps know, Politely, what we hope they don't take out and why and then leave it up to them. Jax is right, it is their game, they have the right to do as they want. If we don't like it, well, most of us have gotten our money's worth, so quit crying over milk that has spilt and go get a glass of orange juice, add some vodka to it if that will make you happier.

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Your wife has run out of patience and it's time to leave the supermarket.

 

That's when he gafelt-the-fish

 

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I thought bedrolls already did a no spawn area around them.

 

is that how it actually works? i've heard conflicting information

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Of course people are going to be doing single player and private games and that's important to consider as a developer, but I think if you look at long-term players and multiplayer servers you'll see a much larger percent of PvPers than 1%.

 

I don't.

 

In my personal experience, I know six other people who play the game apart from myself. We all have a few hundred hours each, and none of us have ever played on a public server. We play single player games or play together in various combinations, but never with strangers.

 

I've also just checked in the last few minutes for a snapshot...

 

Number of players currently playing (according to Steam): 7,409

 

Number of players on servers advertised as PvP or PvPvE (according to the in-game server screen): 129

 

Therefore as of a couple of minutes ago, the percentage of players currently playing PvP is 129/7409x100 = 1.74%

 

(Obviously there's going to be an error margin in those numbers, since they're just a single snapshot; but they're probably representative. That number is likely to be within a standard distribution or two of the actual mean percentage. I'll leave it to the resident maths teacher to explain about normal distributions, error bars, sample sizes, standard deviations, and the like...)

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What are you talking about? By definition an EA(Early Access not that evil publisher) game can't be constantly plagued at release. THEY AREN'T AT RELEASE. If they were, they woudn't be Early Access any more.

 

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Please quote MM's post that said anything that could remotely be construed that way.

 

No. I quite literally ment EA Games. They ruin everything they put their hands on. I'm asking if you ment buying "gold release games" as in what, Battlefield series? laughable at best.

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That is one of the things I thought they handled pretty well also. Purges on the other hand, grrrrrrrrrr. I've still never seen one. Every game I've been in they get bugged and never happen. :( (That may be fixed now. I haven't played it in couple months.)

 

I haven't seen an active purge but I have seen the aftermath of one. Logged in after missing a few days and there were holes in my base walls going from one side of my base to the other.

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is that how it actually works? i've heard conflicting information

 

Yes its how it works.

 

Cheers

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What does being smacked with fish mean?

 

It's a ... bedroom game that Roland and I play.

 

Don't worry about it. =)

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That's when he gafelt-the-fish

 

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is that how it actually works? i've heard conflicting information

 

That is how it is supposed to work and I have never had a zed spawn within the bedrolls area of effect in recent alphas.

 

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It's a ... bedroom game that Roland and I play.

 

Don't worry about it. =)

 

TMI Guppy

 

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Where is the spider meme?

 

look on page 1890 of this thread

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It's a ... bedroom game that Roland and I play.

 

Don't worry about it. =)

 

LOL!!!

 

 

Who is the hitter and who is the hittee??

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@Roland

 

I have a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere yet. It's possible I just missed it if it was.

 

Will the new vehicle creation system keep me from accidentally shift clicking on a stupid basket to place in my bike's inventory and instead dumps everything I had in the basket onto the ground?

 

I can't say how many times I have been filling my bike's basket when I accidentally did this and lost a bunch of items because I couldn't pick them up and get them back into the bike fast enough. I have lost tools, weapons and dukes as well as numerous other less important items because of this and I really loathe it.

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The Stream Event will not be this weekend. I'm hopeful for the following but still too early to know for sure and then of course stuff happens. But you are free to focus on BBQ and celebrate Labor Day by relaxing.

 

Who knows, maybe Joel will do another video and give us another 40 pages of forum material ;)

 

GOOD ,removing A17-E RC from the list? ;) . i know its MAYBE and i know its not a promise but MM will give us 1 hr video i know :) , because iam starting a revolution on him!!! , MM you have to be listening i saw you around alot this days

 

VIDEO ,VIDEO ,VIDEO ,VIDEO ,VIDEO ,VIDEO , Raise the hype bois

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@roland

 

ffs man, put the link to the spider meme in the header... I think there are more questions about the damn meme than there are posts about a17.

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We'd still all be batman though. That is the tie that binds.

 

as a matter of fact, im only here 4 batman pics

 

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I don't think there will be an A18. We'll probably do a beta update and go gold after that. That doesn't mean there won't be some content updates though.

 

Does this mean bandits are gonna be in the next update after A17? Or will they be post-full release content? Currently, that's my most anticipated feature not yet added.

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No. I quite literally ment EA Games. They ruin everything they put their hands on. I'm asking if you ment buying "gold release games" as in what, Battlefield series? laughable at best.

 

I didn't use the term EA in my post. I spelled out Early Access. How did you read "Early Access" and think I meant Electronic Arts?

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Quote Originally Posted by madmole

 

I don't think there will be an A18. We'll probably do a beta update and go gold after that. That doesn't mean there won't be some content updates though.

 

 

Keep some perspective folks.

 

/just saying

 

This is INSANE..I cant believe MM is going to think about probably doing a gold update before Beta and there wont be content updates!! I cannot believe this!! I paid good money for this game to be finished and now he might finish it!! BLASPHEMY!!!

 

 

IHR 2018

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Quote Originally Posted by madmole

 

I don't think there will be an A18. We'll probably do a beta update and go gold after that. That doesn't mean there won't be some content updates though.

 

 

 

 

This is INSANE..I cant believe MM is going to think about probably doing a gold update before Beta and there wont be content updates!! I cannot believe this!! I paid good money for this game to be finished and now he might finish it!! BLASPHEMY!!!

 

 

IHR 2018

 

Props for facetious awesomeness!

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I don't.

 

In my personal experience, I know six other people who play the game apart from myself. We all have a few hundred hours each, and none of us have ever played on a public server. We play single player games or play together in various combinations, but never with strangers. - snip -

 

So glad you did the math. I asked myself the same earlier today.

I’ve got a friend who was playing with a group of his friends on a PvP/PvE server.

But they never went to the PvP area in RWG.

They were playing on that server just because of the modded server options and nice ping.

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Tell you how the game will relase faster?

remove the game like me, because it's not interesting anymore. Do not go to the forum and do not write. Developers will start to move. While they release the game, already relased some games a better quality than 7dtd

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