JCrook1028 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt115 said: strip club and strip are good and people will love it but zombie teens too controversial. The difference is that child zombies will get the game banned in certain countries. So no miners, period. Not inconsistent at all, simply don't want the game banned from parts of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JCrook1028 said: The difference is that child zombies will get the game banned in certain countries. So no miners, period. Not inconsistent at all, simply don't want the game banned from parts of the world. Well stuff conected with sex is banned in some countries too in games. If i good remember gta and sabouter had this problem. Even that it can be avoided using a trick - like add "offical" mod to this game on forum. Like one of dev decided to add this but as a modder, it will 100% legal - just past in news link to this mod in game news. And if someone want to add them they will just could do this. This solution sound stupid but few devs use this to avoid law problems Edited September 24, 2021 by Matt115 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Matt115 said: Well stuff conected with sex is banned in some countries too in games. If i good remember gta and sabouter had this problem What's "connected with sex" in this game that could be banned anywhere? Is there anything? If so this would be the first time I've heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 What makes anyone think they can dictate what other people create with their own blood, sweat, and tears? When people talk about being sensitive to things in a game, a game which has a primary gameplay activity involving killing things graphically, I am always reminded of a quote from Larry Flint (The creator of Hustler) "Murder is illegal but if you take a picture of somebody committing the act of murder they'll put you on the cover of Newsweek, you might even win a Pulitzer Prize and yet sex is legal everybody is "doing it" or everybody wants to be "doing it". Yet if you take a picture of two people in the act of sex or if you take a picture of a woman's naked body and they'll put you in jail." Context. This is a video game. A fantasy world of an epically bad scenario. Why on earth do you want to water down anything that makes the apocalypse gritty? If anyone thinks the apocalypse is going to be censored for their particular flavor of ideal consumption, it's NOT THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, JCrook1028 said: What's "connected with sex" in this game that could be banned anywhere? Is there anything? If so this would be the first time I've heard of it. stipper zombie , strip club. This is connected with sex ul thing right? yeah this sound funny but law is strange sometimes. Even sexual jokes can be banned sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Matt115 said: stipper zombie , strip club. This is connected with sex ul thing right? yeah this sound funny but law is strange sometimes. Even sexual jokes can be banned sometimes Stripper zombies is gone and the strip club has not made anyplace ban the game. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, JCrook1028 said: Stripper zombies is gone and the strip club has not made anyplace ban the game. Next. But it was added. So if any guy from governament wanted to take care about it they could right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Matt115 said: But it was added. So if any guy from governament wanted to take care about it they could right? Point is tho that none have. Children being killed is an auto ban under currently existing laws from some countries. You still have yet to name a "sexual" thing in the game that would auto get it banned under current law anywhere in the world. I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmer Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Matt115 said: But it was added. So if any guy from governament wanted to take care about it they could right? You don't understand how free speech works. If a Government wants to ban a game for a POI that doesn't contain any nudity, they are banning the word or concept. There is zero sexual about the location other than what the name implies. It implies you might see some nudity inside. You guys ever looked in your spam folder? How about we go after people delivering porn to minors emails. That's a problem. This is not. Take responsibility for buying a game with a Mature rating and MOVE ON. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, JCrook1028 said: Point is tho that none have. Children being killed is an auto ban under currently existing laws from some countries. You still have yet to name a "sexual" thing in the game that would auto get it banned under current law anywhere in the world. I'll wait. Even hm "almost naked body " can be banned : dead or alive , hunting grounds, mgs V (Quiet ) and more games. And in some game devs are forced to change clothes of characters for example . 4 minutes ago, warmer said: You don't understand how free speech works. If a Government wants to ban a game for a POI that doesn't contain any nudity, they are banning the word or concept. There is zero sexual about the location other than what the name implies. It implies you might see some nudity inside. You guys ever looked in your spam folder? How about we go after people delivering porn to minors emails. That's a problem. This is not. Take responsibility for buying a game with a Mature rating and MOVE ON. Banning world of concept it just stupid idea becauce well this is sometimes need to use - you know if governament want to get support they will for example fight with weed. But first people need to know what weed is. But my point is : I doesn't write stip club is wrong. I wrote this could be banned is some countries. And zombie teens are controversial too and could be banned in some contries but still they add stip but not zombie teens. In some older games devs was forced to even cut "dirty" jokes. So law works strange. it doesn't even need to nudity. Even sex doll can be reason why game can be banned ( one of mw games because there is a sex doll) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brugas Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 No. Just no. With so much wokeness and over the top political correctness today and people wanting to desperately virtue signal to their peers for some sort of "feel goodness", i'm going to go the opposite route to balance it out. Tired of it all. I'm a father of daughters as well and I don't care, my wife doesn't care, and neither do my daughters, who are of the age to make their own decisions in life. Stop trying to change the world to your liking... it's a game made by "The Fun Pimps" if that eluded you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaasher Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, warmer said: I think we should choose the media we like rather than dictate media be to our liking. If this was a gameplay mechanic I would have have that debate, but this is a game rating debate. Devs decide that. I personally don't want anyone's art to be restricted based on a minority of people that won't deem it acceptable. Art isn't for everyone Music isn't for everyone Movies aren't for everyone Games aren't for everyone Allow creative expression or you risk making creators second guess everything they do, and in turn water it down until we get a homeopathic dose of a zombie apocalypse. Well said. It doesnt matter whether or not I agree if we should have strip clubs, "women in cages", Munchez Carpets, or the mens @%$# bar - I cant remember the name, (etc). I believe in what you have stated Edited September 24, 2021 by Slaasher (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brugas Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt115 said: Even hm "almost naked body " can be banned : dead or alive , hunting grounds, mgs V (Quiet ) and more games. And in some game devs are forced to change clothes of characters for example . Banning world of concept it just stupid idea becauce well this is sometimes need to use - you know if governament want to get support they will for example fight with weed. But first people need to know what weed is. But my point is : I doesn't write stip club is wrong. I wrote this could be banned is some countries. And zombie teens are controversial too and could be banned in some contries but still they add stip but not zombie teens. In some older games devs was forced to even cut "dirty" jokes. So law works strange. it doesn't even need to nudity. Even sex doll can be reason why game can be banned ( one of mw games because there is a sex doll) And? Why are you going on about "what if's" in regards to possible bans by countries? You really going to walk on eggshells over that and restrict creativity, content, and a bit of fun over worrying about some other country might "ban" the content? Pretty sure China and North Korea will ban anything regardless of your feelings or intent. Nothing to get worried over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt115 said: Even hm "almost naked body " can be banned : dead or alive , hunting grounds, mgs V (Quiet ) and more games. And in some game devs are forced to change clothes of characters for example . We know nudity can lead to bans or changes. There is nothing strange or random about this. But there is no nudity in this POI, the POI is not naked, the zombies are not naked. 2 hours ago, Matt115 said: Banning world of concept it just stupid idea becauce well this is sometimes need to use - you know if governament want to get support they will for example fight with weed. But first people need to know what weed is. But my point is : I doesn't write stip club is wrong. I wrote this could be banned is some countries. And zombie teens are controversial too and could be banned in some contries but still they add stip but not zombie teens. In some older games devs was forced to even cut "dirty" jokes. So law works strange. it doesn't even need to nudity. Even sex doll can be reason why game can be banned ( one of mw games because there is a sex doll) A sex doll has a strong likeness to a nude person. Still much more than a sign on a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 TFP knows what lines they can't cross in order to keep international markets open to them. Everyone can just settle down. What's in the game isn't going to cause a problem and what is not in the game that would cause a problem won't be added. Going forward, if a major market were to change policies that might cause the game to be banned then the developers would make their decision on whether to keep the content or cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyLee298 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 20 hours ago, Listening said: Maharin, I have modded it out. That is not my point. The point is simply that it is offensive to some, that some being a gender. as you said "offensive to some" tho you want it to be like, if its not good to me its not good for anyone... thats a bit far. especially for just a strip club 🙃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Brugas said: And? Why are you going on about "what if's" in regards to possible bans by countries? You really going to walk on eggshells over that and restrict creativity, content, and a bit of fun over worrying about some other country might "ban" the content? Pretty sure China and North Korea will ban anything regardless of your feelings or intent. Nothing to get worried over. Well not only this - jokes , some activities even "posters" or slogans. I will tell how sometimes law is stupid- in my country few years ago you coudn't cut down tree on your ground without permission. Logical. But if thiefs cutted this tree - you must pay a fee. why? because cutting tree need permission. I know this sound stupid but it was true. So strange things can happens. 1 hour ago, meganoth said: We know nudity can lead to bans or changes. There is nothing strange or random about this. But there is no nudity in this POI, the POI is not naked, the zombies are not naked. A sex doll has a strong likeness to a nude person. Still much more than a sign on a house. I know about that. just sometimes law is just stupid. Like in some countries cartoons with smoking characters are banned. In Czech republic one of episode of popular cartoon were banned because main charactere were making hooch. XD Honestly - i hate stupid law and i hope players in new zeland , australia , germany will someday start protesting to eliminate stupid laws connected with games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matt115 said: Well not only this - jokes , some activities even "posters" or slogans. I will tell how sometimes law is stupid- in my country few years ago you coudn't cut down tree on your ground without permission. Logical. But if thiefs cutted this tree - you must pay a fee. why? because cutting tree need permission. I know this sound stupid but it was true. So strange things can happens. I never heard of this, but it might be easy to explain: If a land owner wanted a tree cut on their ground they just cut the tree and told everyone it was a thief. So that that excuse doesn't work anymore the government probably made it law that the land owner has to prove it really was a thief, otherwise he has to pay. That is just pragmatic if most trees are really cut by land owners than thiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt115 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, meganoth said: I never heard of this, but it might be easy to explain: If a land owner wanted a tree cut on their ground they just cut the tree and told everyone it was a thief. So that that excuse doesn't work anymore the government probably made it law that the land owner has to prove it really was a thief, otherwise he has to pay. That is just pragmatic if most trees are really cut by land owners than thiefs We was thinking that but... nope XD. okay - thief cut a tree and steal the wood - this is criminal case. Tree was cutted- administrative case. So they can even find a thieft and proofs but.. this doesn't matter because it was diffrent "case" So 1 thing - 2 cases. More stupid things: The cheaper option was for some time to make a computer, transport them to Germany and back to shop to Poland that sell this in shop directly. For long time was stupid regulation - if you had a shop and you didn't sell something you coudn't give for example bread. why? because if you give this too him him you need to pay tax. But if you put this same bread on rubbish bin and someone will take this was tax-free. A lot of thing connected with traffic law : in some places there were " paradox" sitation - no matter what you do you will break a law and get fee. People file a complain to court but this was pointlesss because court tolds this is lawful. So people forced local governament to change this places in few cases. So this doesn't have sens but it was a law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydious Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) I suddenly miss the poop reaction, thumbs down just don't cut it sometimes. Edited September 25, 2021 by Sydious (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahbi Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) I would prefer to leave stripper POIs in the game because frankly, zombie strippers are hysterical. Come on, who didn't laugh when those zombie strippers chased the pervs out of the strip club in the opening scene of Zombieland? However, for those who desire, I think some parental controls in the main menu could be helpful. And as always... ZOMBIE FAT ELVIS PLEASE! Edited September 25, 2021 by pahbi (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I'm offended people think conservative/religious types don't like strip clubs. Both Texas and Florida have the best clubs in the country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFT2020 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, pahbi said: However, for those who desire, I think some parental controls in the main menu could be helpful. They already exist, it’s called not allowing thrm to play a game rated M 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Guppycur said: I'm offended people think conservative/religious types don't like strip clubs. Both Texas and Florida have the best clubs in the country. That's just hearsay right. You would never step in a strip club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppycur Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gamida said: That's just hearsay right. You would never step in a strip club Sheeeeit, I love to watch the women manipulate stupid men. Even better when they're nekkid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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